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RE: McCain's Health Care Plan - 9/20/2008 9:12:30 AM   
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Abadabba's healthcare plan would give coverage to Illegal Aliens.

I don't mind illegals having health coverage. I do mind my tax dollars paying for it.

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RE: McCain's Health Care Plan - 9/20/2008 1:19:10 PM   
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Since I never asked, I am not sure, but I would hope they would have compensated me. At the company I am currently at, you have $1 an hour deducted to cover your medical if you want insurance. Your salary stays the same if you don't.

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RE: McCain's Health Care Plan - 9/20/2008 1:34:48 PM   
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Correction:  people just think they are covered.

Change employers....and your chronic condition becomes "pre-existing" (meaning not covered).

Not unless you had a coverage gap (always buy COBRA).  I have several conditions (which I have no control over) that are covered since I never had a gap in coverage.

However, just try getting insurance on your own and see the cost.  It could run over 1000/month if you're over 53 or so.  I bought my own through the IEEE when I was in my early 40s and it ran about 320/month.

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RE: McCain's Health Care Plan - 9/20/2008 2:20:40 PM   
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Correction:  people just think they are covered.

Change employers....and your chronic condition becomes "pre-existing" (meaning not covered).

Not unless you had a coverage gap (always buy COBRA).  I have several conditions (which I have no control over) that are covered since I never had a gap in coverage.

However, just try getting insurance on your own and see the cost.  It could run over 1000/month if you're over 53 or so.  I bought my own through the IEEE when I was in my early 40s and it ran about 320/month.

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The last company I was laid off from didn't offer COBRA. I had always thought they had to, but apparently if they are under a certain number of employees, they don't.

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RE: McCain's Health Care Plan - 9/20/2008 2:42:22 PM   
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That's harsh; I didn't realize there was a cutoff.

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RE: McCain's Health Care Plan - 9/20/2008 5:06:36 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Correction:  people just think they are covered.

Change employers....and your chronic condition becomes "pre-existing" (meaning not covered).

Not unless you had a coverage gap (always buy COBRA).  I have several conditions (which I have no control over) that are covered since I never had a gap in coverage.

However, just try getting insurance on your own and see the cost.  It could run over 1000/month if you're over 53 or so.  I bought my own through the IEEE when I was in my early 40s and it ran about 320/month.

thornhappy



The last company I was laid off from didn't offer COBRA. I had always thought they had to, but apparently if they are under a certain number of employees, they don't.


In California the number of employees is 10 or 12 or something like that - it's been awhile so I can't remember.  But then the state kicks in and offers Cal-COBRA so people aren't left uninsured.  Not sure how other states work.

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RE: McCain's Health Care Plan - 9/21/2008 3:12:35 AM   
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Here's the numbers behind McInsane's "plan".
http://blog.thehill.com/2008/09/16/mccain-secretly-plans-new-tax-on-middle-class/

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The value of the typical plan provided by an employer to a family is $12,106, of which the employer pays $8,824, and the worker pays the remaining $3,282. The median household income is $44,389, which places most American families in the 15 percent income tax bracket.
McCain wants to add the employer’s cost — an additional $8,824 — to that middle class family’s income, then tax it. The hit to the average family is 15 percent of the McCain-added income — $1,323 more in income taxes.
This new tax would affect the 158 million Americans who are insured through their employer."

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Right now you should be yelling, “What?” And demanding to know why you haven’t heard about this before. That is because the media keeps focusing on McCain’s proposed health care tax credits — $5,000 for families and $2,500 for individuals.
McCain certainly wants the attention to stay on those credits. It sounds so much better to be giving families tax credits than tax increases. But what you need to know about those tax credits is that they don’t go to you – they’re to be sent to the insurance companies. You never get actual money in your pocket. McCain says it right on his web site: “the money would be sent directly to the insurance provider.”"

What a sick fucking joke.

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