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Lynnxz -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/21/2008 11:39:53 PM)

!!!

Your slave has to be able to do...

1) This fold
2) This thing
3) This bend... (Hey! I know a guy that can run around like this...he's fast... intriguing, no?
4) She has to be able to run around in these ( Look! Xrayed ballet feet) These feet are of a professional ballerina had .... poor feet. Think I'm lying? Google ballet feet.
5) Add on top of that all of the other restrictive fetish wear.... does she have to do the fold in the boots?

Are you even attempting to be realistic?





zakkan -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/21/2008 11:46:07 PM)

Wow... I can't even work out how that fold is achieved... Are you really able to train someone to do all that??? You can go be a coach in China! 




NihilusZero -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/21/2008 11:55:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz
Are you even attempting to be realistic?

In a bit of fairness...individually perfect ideals are rarely ever sprouted in the realms of realism.

In any case, I much prefer her if we're to make visual displays (although I'm fonder of Olga Pikhienko).




WyldHrt -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 12:21:35 AM)

Soz, you lost me at "emotional and physical punching bag". Makes it sound like you intend to take your artistic "angst" and/or emotional frustration out on the nearest target- namely, your sub- and that is anything but Domly to me. KOM is right on there.

As others have said, you are demanding much while offering little in return, and are shocked to have no takers? Honey, please. While there are some subs/slaves into the dynamic you propose, the pool is extremely small. This is not meant as "bashing", just criticism.

That said, I rather agree with the posters who have said that you are not currently in a position to take responsibility for a sub, or worse, a slave. JMHO

 






Lynnxz -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 12:23:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lynnxz
Are you even attempting to be realistic?

In a bit of fairness...individually perfect ideals are rarely ever sprouted in the realms of realism.

In any case, I much prefer her if we're to make visual displays (although I'm fonder of Olga Pikhienko).



While he's sexy, he's not a her. [:D]




NihilusZero -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 12:26:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

While he's sexy, he's not a her. [:D]



Whoa! Linked to totally the wrong video! [&o]
Proper link.




zakkan -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 12:43:47 AM)

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ResidentSadist -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 1:27:02 AM)

I think if I lower my standards any further, they couldn't really be called standards anymore.
[:D]




tsatske -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 1:34:35 AM)

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4) She has to be able to run around in these ( Look! Xrayed ballet feet) These feet are of a professional ballerina had .... poor feet. Think I'm lying? Google ballet feet.


I get MOST of the ongoing damage to these feet, but, really - does it some how aid her ballet not to cut her toenails? Maybe it does, i personally can't stand the feel of toenails period, i can't imagine if i went around walking on the tips of them EW.




LadyLupineNYC -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 5:12:54 AM)

Now now...we are just not being constructive here with our criticisms.




Twicehappy2x -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 5:37:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth

4 people who are exactly the body type and skills that I want, and into some of the same things I am, and kinky
* 20 or so people who are into the same things I am, and kinky, but I do not find them attractive.
* 5 people who are exactly the body type and skills that I want, and kinky, but not at ALL interested in the sort of things that I am.
* who knows how many hundreds of people who aren't into the skills that I want or kinky.
* who knows how many hundreds of people who I am not interested in for any reason.



I see you changed your profile a bit but still see very little vanilla interests, which are important. And almost zero about what you are offering a potential mate besides turning them into your kinky creation and using them to show off. Personally, if that was all somebody wanted me for, i buy them one of those silicone sex dolls and wish them a long life with it.

Not saying your wants/desires are wrong, just saying the ones who would be interested in that type of life are going to be far and few between, add on your personal physical attraction needs, and it becomes an even smaller pool.
 
I think you are looking wayyyyy to hard at the physical.
 
What happens when this female prima donna you want to build gets old and less flexible or gasp, gets wrinkles or osteoporosis?
 
Most women, while enjoying having their body appreciated want somebody who is more interested with what is on the inside.
 
I do understand looking for specifics, everybody has some. Mine was bikers only. Other than that i was pretty open to a wide range of physical/kink types. What attracts me about a person is who they are, how they present themselves. Yes, i was looking for the one who i knew was the One, but that was dependent on who they were, not a laundry list of i want. 
 
Should you lower your standards? Only you know the answer to that. But i think you should be concerning yourself less with the "i want this now" and more with the long term if you hope to even begin to attract women from your very limited selection.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth

I WANT property. I WANT committed submissives. I just don't want property that has to be paid for with "twue wuv". I don't want committed submissives that want to get married and have hundreds of my babies. I don't want people who want a "deep communion of souls". I want people who want to be owned, and used, and turned into works of art. I want people who want to be turned into a testament to my power and creativity. I'm just sick of all that "you're The One" crap. I want committed, mutually beneficial relationships based around having fun and doing stuff



Wow, i just read that last bit i underlined and while i grasp you want you want, all i can say is WOW! Again. You really do have no or little concept of how the most female minds function, do you?
 
Is it really only about filling your kink/getting laid? If so why not just occasionally pay a pro who suits you?

quote:

 I'm asking for help or advice in how to choose differently. Does that make sense?

So, now it sinks in: I'm actually not worthy of what I want; there are plenty of much, much cooler people than me that want it, and not enough of it to go around, so of course they get it first.


Ok, i have been answering as i go along and i think i see the biggest issue a bit better now.

After reading all your posts, i have to ask, have you tried therapy to work on your relationship/trust issues? 
 
Most importantly, you seriously need help with your self esteem issues. I commented earlier on your wanting this specific type female as a way to the ends of your being able to show off. From your profile;

"I've performed in front of crowds, drawn specifically to see what new madness I had taught my girls. I've made award-winning fetish clothing. I've walked down a crowded mall, filming my girl as she danced in ballet boots and a mini-skirt. I have looked into a thousand pairs of eyes and left a greater person for each of them."

It appears to me what you are jonesing for, what is driving you, as you put it "to a psychotic break" is lack of approval, lack of adulation, lack of being looked at and admired.
 
It seems you base a lot of your sense of self worth on what others think of you. Whether or not they admire what you've done. You do not even begin to appear to care what the female object of your desires thinks of you.
 
Hasn't anybody ever given you approval/loved you for who you are instead of what you have done/can do?
 
Get some serious psychiatric help. Nobody should have to base their worth on a crowds approval. You need to learn to approve of yourself, to place a value on yourself as a human being for who you are inside. Once you learn to do that, you might see a change in your "must haves".




Missokyst -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 5:41:41 AM)

So basically you want someone who has no personality of their own.  You want someone who can be art, who can show the world that YOU are the great one for having achieved a perfect work of .. what?
For the record I do not believe in the ONE.  I believe there are many along the way and a person is lucky to have found that in their life.  But.. I actually like my men to have needs of their own.  I like my men to have personalities, thoughts, abilities, physical attributes.. that I did not create.
I like them to be real people who would slap me silly for asking them to be willing to drop all that to become a piece of art which celebrates my greatness.

I dont see that you are giving them anything in return.  Ok.. maybe a wardrobe. 
You dont seem to have any needs beyond what they can offer you.  So I suggest this, they weigh between 75 and 115 llbs, they are flexible and will remain firm.  They have no minds of their own, no thoughts, no needs beyond simple cleanliness, and you can dress them up and mount them to your wall if that is what you wish.
http://www.realdoll.com/cgi-bin/snav.rd?action=viewpage&section=frealdoll

Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth
I WANT property. I WANT committed submissives. I just don't want property that has to be paid for with "twue wuv". 
I want people who want to be owned, and used, and turned into works of art. I want people who want to be turned into a testament to my power and creativity. I'm just sick of all that "you're The One" crap. I want committed, mutually beneficial relationships based around having fun and doing stuff




LadyLupineNYC -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 5:41:49 AM)

"It appears to me what you are jonesing for, what is driving you, as you put it "to a psychotic break" is lack of approval, lack of adulation, lack of being looked at and admired.

It seems you base a lot of your sense of self worth on what others think of you. Whether or not they admire what you've done. You do not even begin to appear to care what the female object of your desires thinks of you. "

He thinks it is him being admired when it is someone else; I would hardly call her even his creation. I see someone who has so little to personally offer for admiration that this is the only way he can feed off that energy.

LL *sick, in bed*




sunshinedreams -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 7:08:29 AM)

Perhaps you may be barking up the wrong tree...Maybe you would find someone more suited to your interests at a place where others with interests in physical improvements go. Say a gym or yoga studio....Kinky people don't usually advertise, so you just have to actually talk to people, but there are a lot more in the vanilla world than you can see at first glance. Just like how I don't try to meet scholarly people at a dance club. I would go to a bookstore, library, museum, or somewhere else a bit more cerebral for that.
There is one other thing to think about....contortionists do age too. Even in my younger years I realized this. I would have never wanted to get involed with someone who was SO focused on the perfection physically, knowing that meant it would mean being tossed aside one I no longer fit the proper criteria. Love or no love, that would make me question the ability for long term.
Just thought you should know what the rational could be from another angle.




CalifChick -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 7:10:56 AM)

So, did I miss it or did he ever answer my question about taking a girl in the top 10%... of what?  I'm guessing "perfection" in his eyes, but seriously, of WHAT?

I've been mulling this over... does anybody here know ANYONE that had very strict physical requirements that was able to make a relationship last?  For most of the people I know, the majority of their requirements are mental, emotional, behavioral, etc., with a very small number of requirements being physical.  For me, no, I don't know anyone who has been able to build a relationship out of physical requirements.


Cali




persephonee -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 7:18:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NumberSix

I cannot further lower my standards, they are abjectly subsumed as it is.

6


Awww...poor Dom.




LadyLupineNYC -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 7:21:50 AM)

no, he didn't because it wasn't 'constructive'. Having said that; sunshinedreams has a point about yoga studios. While I don' think it is impossible for him to find someone (thus, why I keep telling him to stick with his fetish if that is so important) I do think it impossible for him to find someone who will stay with him. The wizard behind the curtain was a very small man, indeed (Wizard of Oz references are what happens when your slave is from Kansas). Even assuming he could take someone to that top 1% (whatever the hell THAT means) it would only satisfy him since the fetish is so narrow (though I suspect it wouldn't, this is the kind of personality would is never happy and leaves someone feeling like worthless shit since they will never fulfill and ideal).

On a side note, yes, I know I have been 'harsh' (oddly, I have been tempering myself); I just find the idea that someone comes asking repeatedly for 'help' and 'advise' and who is so clearly interested in it to be beyond disingenuous. I am not advocating for those with extraordinary desires to 'lessen' their expectations, far from it, but recognize that if you are not finding what you are looking for, it is not necessarily the failings of others that is preventing you, but failings within oneself. The most wonderful aspects about this 'lifestyle' are the elements of journey and self discovery, from both D-types, s-types and, in the case of the OP, fetishist. But the journey is also about pushing limits, challenging assumptions. Not those of your 'fetish model' only, but also of yourself.

*maybe it's time to put the cold medicine down...*




persephonee -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 7:32:01 AM)

~FR~
if its more of a physical aesthetic thing you are looking for and not an emotional connection then good luck finding someone whos own internal needs to belong and serve a quality partner are subsumed (great word 6...im using it all day long today) by a need to serve your kink with nothing in return.

i was told and i believe it to be true that men love the women they are attracted to and women become attracted to the men that they love.

Sounds pretty lonely to me.

im a fat ass...i dont mind at all being "round like a ball" as my son says in reference to how i look. ive been overweight my whole life and despite wanting to be healthier, i have yet to force myself to be thinner. If it were important to my Dom (should i ever get just one...) that i lose weight and i were convinced that this was solely due to his desire to improve my life in some way or that this command came from an honest appraisal of what would make him feel happier or better served...then i would consider it. If i thought for one minute that my success at losing the weight would hinge on a continuation of the relationship i would leave.
Love me now fat....love me later thin....love me later than that if i got fat again.
my body is the vessel holding what i really am....not the other way around.
Also, from your earlier posts i would not find it surprising that you have difficulties finding mates for the long haul as some of the things that you profess to hold dear are not necessarily indicative of a healthy psyche. This is not a slam...your mental health is your issue, not anyone elses. i find your honesty REFRESHING and still find some of the things you have posted to leave me cold inside...(that is my response internally and not meant to be a personal attack of any sort.) And its not beyond the realm of possibility that i have misunderstood your posts as well.
my point, and i do have one...is this
if you focus solely on what you want aesthetically and then bemoan the superficiality of the folks you are meeting....i wonder how that happened....just a thought.




persephonee -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 7:33:57 AM)

slight hijack

i love your sig line about the community and violence.....

have a great day

perse




LadyLupineNYC -> RE: "Just lower your standards" (9/22/2008 7:36:02 AM)


Ah thank you! It's actually a quote; 'air kiss' to the person who identifies it without cheating!


quote:

ORIGINAL: persephonee

slight hijack

i love your sig line about the community and violence.....

have a great day

perse





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