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Termyn8or -> RE: The Science of Eugenics is alive and well (9/22/2008 6:56:16 PM)
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The practice of eugenics is also alive and well. The royal families in Europe used to, and my own family does it. Many people do it. We will not allow our daughters to marry someone without some worth. Perhaps the Nazis did it, which is what gives it a bad name.
For the most part eugenics does take care of itself, if you are intelligwent, you will tend to seek an intelligent mate, that is human nature. Also there used to be a tendency for anyone to find a mate that at least looks like them. There is more to it than that. I know someone who has a penchant for Oriental Women, and the younger the better I might add, although hopefully he is keeping it legal.
Orientals are a different sort than I, and I am not attracted to them at all. I have found many Orientals to be intelligent, and overall good people, but to make children with, I choose, and I do so based on my own preferences and possibly even instincts. Oriental girls can be fun, intelligent and a joy to be with, but they just don't turn me on. Some guys go nuts over them.
Some of us practice eugenics whether we like it or not. We certainly practice it on the animals. Dog breeds for example. Basically we are all animals, the difference is that we have developed our self awareness. At the core, we breathe, we run, jump, sit, see, hear, all of that. So if you have a prize winning female retriever, with papers, you will keep the male dauchounds away when she is in heat. You are trying to keep the breed pure, and that is exactly what eugenics is, in part at least.
The other part is that true eugenics strives to improve the breed, or race as it were. This is where the strong and agile minded would be encouraged to breed and others would not. As the human condition unfortunately proves, quite the opposite is happening. The people least able to afford the costs and the other aspects of childrearing are usually the ones who reproduce the most, leaving the rest of us with their mess to clean up. If you haven't seen this in real life, you can probably give me a weather report from Mars.
Real life is funny in that it forces choices upon us that really are wrong. Abortion is murder, plain and simple, and I am all for it. You stand outside an abortion clinic and adopt every baby that would have been aborted, pay all the hospital bills and raise it to maturity, then we can talk. Until then, abortion will remain a form of eugenics.
Think of it though, an unwanted child is not likely to be raised right, and we'll just have to kill them later, or the cops will.
We have to get this adoration for life out of our psyche, and it is so screwed up that some think of rocks as being sentient beings. Thinking like that reduces us all. We might not be at the top of the food chain, but we are alot closer than we should be based on physical attributes. We have a mind. Killing, whether inside or outside the womb is wrong, but necessary.
Everything you eat has been killed (hopefully) and when we admit to ourselves that we actually live on death, and stop pretending to be the good sheep, we can advance.
Petty bickering about bullshit gets us nowhere. In the US, it is simple. We are a killer species with an imperical government.Say it, look in a mirror and say it. You will then see someone speaking the truth. We are killers.
So if we control what shall die or live, why not who is born and not born ? Go even back before the abortion was needed, go to before the fact to get the facts. Learn how the fact became fact. Deal with it. When my Aunt had an illegitimate child they took her about twenty states away to have it. He did alright. Not everyone can do that, and without abortion the kids are left to eat lead based paint chips off the wall, and roach, rat and other feces. Yuck.
Eugenics should live, at least for those who practice it wisely. What if you have a daughter who graduated with honors, did just about everything right and is doing well. She shows up one day with her bo, who is about as smart as a box of rocks and doesn't even know how to put a baseball cap on. He looks all high, can't engage in an intelligent conversation, and everything is negative. Do you encourage the relationship ? That is eugenics in action. It's just a matter of degree.
Don't get me wrong though, any kind of state sponsored eugenics would surely be a disaster. But there are plenty of people who practice it all their lives, either knowingly or otherwise.
T
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