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Steponme73 -> What do you think? (9/23/2008 5:21:10 PM)
I had someone tell me that I must not be much of a man if I am submissive to a woman...interesting thought. Do you think women as a whole think less of a man because he is not dominant? Is there anything to this? I am comfortable with who I am... I just thought it odd that someone would make that statement so matter-of-factly.

thetammyjo -> RE: What do you think? (9/23/2008 5:22:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Steponme73 I had someone tell me that I must not be much of a man if I am submissive to a woman...interesting thought. Do you think women as a whole think less of a man because he is not dominant? Is there anything to this? I am comfortable with who I am... I just thought it odd that someone would make that statement so matter-of-factly. Sounds like someone doesn't think much of him or herself so they tried to attack you in the hopes of feeling better about themselves. What a sad excuse for a human being that person is.

E2Sweet -> RE: What do you think? (9/23/2008 5:27:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Steponme73 ....Do you think women as a whole think less of a man because he is not dominant? Is there anything to this?.... It's been my experience women definitely do not think as a whole. They are very very individualistic, and that's definitely a good thing. As to someone taking an underhanded shot at you for not being manly due to a desire to be submissive to a woman: I just wouldn't worry about it all that much, and would save my respect for those individuals who indeed deserve it. [:)]

LadyLupineNYC -> RE: What do you think? (9/23/2008 5:32:12 PM)
Some of the bravest, most 'manly' men are those able to sit and take orders from thier Mistress. It takes a true sense of self, selflessness, and power tobe so humbled.

LadyPact -> RE: What do you think? (9/23/2008 5:36:57 PM)
I would love to know who made, what I believe to be, such a ridiculous statement. Society's expectations of what a man is and what a woman is are only slowly changing. I know the conflict that submissive males can run into from the mindset. It's hard for any of us who don't exactly fit the mold of what other people think we are supposed to be. I do happen to think it's easier for females on both sides of the kneel. Submissive females aren't that far out of the traditional fem role until the kink part comes up. Dominant females are a bit farther out there, but we're often viewed as thrilling sexually, so we don't get too much crap. Even those of us who are sadists don't run into too much of a problem the majority of the time. Dominant males, much like submissive females, are close to what society thinks they should be. This leaves submissive males probably having the most trouble being accepted by the non kink society. They don't get it. This is something much different than what people are taught a male is supposed to be. So what? Maybe the way people were taught was wrong to begin with. Just remember. A hundred years ago, people were taught they were different than one another solely based on the color of their skin. The basic fact is that they were taught wrong. History has hundreds of examples of things we were taught that weren't necessarily correct. I'm sure a hundred years from now, we'll learn even more of them. Just My personal view, but it actually takes a pretty big man to follow his true calling to submit if that's who he is inside.

SweetDommes -> RE: What do you think? (9/23/2008 6:12:18 PM)
In our minds, there is nothing sexier than a man who knows what he wants and is willing to acknowledge it and try to get it. That includes being submissive. There is no way that would ever make any man less manly. I'm guessing that the person who said that was just jealous that you are confident enough to go for what you want.

Lockit -> RE: What do you think? (9/23/2008 10:44:15 PM)
Sounds like a man who thinks that he is above women and cannot picture a man lowering himself. His ignorance is showing. Don't get caught up in wondering if there is some merit to such foolishnes. What matters is what you think about it. There are some who struggle with this and it can become a great conflict for them. They wish to submit and yet something in their background or whatever tells them that it is wrong and they are less a man. A genuine struggle stemming from social conditioning is understandable, but the judgment and attitude of the man you spoke to is why some struggle with a most manly and wonderful thing as submission to one worthy of their submission. I bet this guy would have little problem with the weaker sex (tongue in cheek) submitting to him! Consider the source and walk away, living true to yourself and what makes you happy. I do not think less of a submissive man. I think less of a person who would make comments like the one you mention and one who doesn't live true to themselves or who has character flaws... I see nothing flawed with a submissive person, man or woman.

ResidentSadist -> RE: What do you think? (9/23/2008 10:47:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Steponme73 Do you think women as a whole think less of a man because he is not dominant? Is there anything to this? In general, I thought women in the United States expect their men to be at least somewhat submissive?

Chi -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 3:52:06 AM)
I have only this to say, I am not going to fit anyone’s mold, not the majority of aso-called dominant women or any other woman or man’s. When I chose and with whom I chose to relinquish self-authority, I will do it with abandon and gusto and certainly not concern myself with the thoughts and opinions of others.

MsStarlett -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 4:26:23 AM)
I have a great deal of respect for submissive men. It takes a lot of 'gumption' to let go and put your trust in someone else. I have the utmost respect for pain sluts. It takes a great deal more strength to take a beating than to administer one.

Dnomyar -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 4:50:56 AM)
Op the statement was not odd. It is the way some people think. I don't care what your orentation is someone will always say a snide remark about it. It is for you to decide if you want it to wound your pride or just blow it off. In my opinion if you let it bother you then you have issues that need to be delt with.

ShiftedJewel -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 5:10:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Chi I have only this to say, I am not going to fit anyone’s mold, not the majority of aso-called dominant women or any other woman or man’s. When I chose and with whom I chose to relinquish self-authority, I will do it with abandon and gusto and certainly not concern myself with the thoughts and opinions of others. *I can't stand mold!!! EEEWWW* *And isn't that the best way to do it?* *Jewel*

chiaThePet -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 5:25:46 AM)
If I were a Mimosa, it would be a simple matter to define me. I would like to think I am just a tad bit more complex than silly, simple statements. As is evident at the lovely collarme hive, neither women or men group as a whole. Personally, I like to tie those whom doubt me upside down by their ankles and set a small but functional fire beneath them. When the embers begin to sway the close minded pattern of thoughts within and they begin to scream that they now realize the error of their ways, I kneel submissively and whisper softly in their ear, "You're getting warmer." chia* (the pet)

MsStarlett -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 5:33:35 AM)
hmmmmmm.... Chia, what a delicious thought!

Sylverdawn -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 5:43:18 AM)
I say.. Fuckem and feed em fish heads..they have not one single clue..

Chi -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 7:09:27 AM)
Shifted, we are all subjected to social indoctrination and the impositions of cultural demand but some of us at an early age rejected social engineering’s, loosed and freed the shackles and bonds of what others considered acceptable conducts and behavior, found our own path and deeply loved the company we were with when alone. I simply embrace that thinking even today and don’t give a flying f---- about being accepted by the masses or the thinkings and/or opinions of others.

Steponme73 -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 3:51:42 PM)
Thank you all for your input. LOL...I am not going to loose any sleep over such a statement.

PrincessJ77 -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 3:56:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sylverdawn I say.. Fuckem and feed em fish heads..they have not one single clue.. The poor fish. Will they be sent to the guillotine? Oh the shame, the shame.... I can has sushi?

azropedntied -> RE: What do you think? (9/24/2008 4:04:28 PM)
good ! a blanket statement like that should hold no merit .Chia that rocks ! quote: ORIGINAL: Steponme73 Thank you all for your input. LOL...I am not going to loose any sleep over such a statement.

tweedydaddy -> RE: What do you think? (9/27/2008 5:36:58 PM)
Every man on Earth was born to a Mother, Every man on Earth has therefore been under the complete control and protection of a woman. No man can ever say he has not, or will not be submissive to a woman. Not on this planet.

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