Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Perceptions


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: Perceptions Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3 4 5   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 9:59:39 PM   
WhiplashSmile2


Posts: 526
Joined: 6/11/2008
Status: offline
I'm not fully certain what your motivations are behind your post here.  In part it's a bitch and complaint about people in general being actors.

Actually many people put on a facade or public image for other people.  Some people do this to protect themselves, some people do it to sell themselves.  It's just not limited to BDSM or the lifestyle.   Go out to any crowded bar on a weekend and you'll see plenty of people playing this game.  In fact go to any social gathering of people.   Some people will form click groups with a common agenda.

What you are bitching about is all part of life.  This type of behavior everybody should have learned to deal with before graduating from high school.  At least this is my harsh opinion on it.

I really don't bow down to groups and other people's opinions.  If I went to a munch and somebody asked me if I was for real, I'd be firing back some smart ass remarks like.  "I'm as real as your twisted imagination is", "No, I'm not real I'm a complete figment of your imagination and you are really locked in a padded room right now."

However I after making such a smart ass remark, I would extend my hand and introduce myself as if nothing had been said at all.  Why?  Because it does no good for me to take things personally to the point it ruins me enjoying myself.

OK, the host walked away from you.  Did you take it so personally that everybody could read you like an open book, that you were taking it personally?  Perhaps the host needed to do something, talk with somebody else, or had more pressing issues on their mind at the time, where they could not spend time talking with you.

Personally when I go to any event, I'm there for some reason besides trying to make friends with the Host.  I've been a host or the person in charge of events and such.  I'm not talking specifically about BDSM events either.   Being a host or in charge of an event takes some time, engery and focus.  Sure it would be nice if I could spend quality time with everybody, but this is not realistic.   In short, I can put myself in the shoes of what it's like to be a host.

I don't know everything that went down at these events or gatherings you went to.   It's obvious that people have reacted to you in a manner that you take very personally and it provokes distaste and a certain amount of anamosity in you.

Dude, kick back, crack open a beer and relax don't take things so personally, everybody is not perfect, always polite and in the right.  These are complete strangers that you tried interacting with.

My spidey senses tell me they responded to you in the manner they did, not based on your physical appearence alone.  People will figure you out in part by how you look, but they will watch and observe your ass at the same time.  Your personality has a lot to do with how people respond.

I actually think you are too wrapped up in believing the issue with with the clothes you were wearing, when in fact the issue is probally a lot deeper then you care to realize or admit to yourself.   I'm not trying to intentionally piss you off here with my post.  I'm trying express some honest sincere food for thought.  Perhaps something for you to consider, explore and think about it.  I'm just giving my honest advice and thoughts based on the limited information you laid out in your OP.

For me I sort of bask at times in sticking out like a sore thumb in groups and social settings.  Mind you, I take showers and take reasonable care of my appearence.  Most munches people don't dress up in their best leather anyways.  Not everybody is into leather, some are into Latex, some are into the Goth look, some people are into the Redneck look, some people a bit more business like or whatever.  OK, there's nothing wrong with casual clothing to wear to a munch.  In fact many people, have places they are going to before and after the munch is over.  Most people into BDSM live very real productive lives with real things going on.  If somebody does wear their Fetishwear out to a munch, that's great too.

Some people wear clothing that they love, and will wear their favorite things out to events.  Why?  Because they are proud to be into BDSM, and enjoy it.  They love their clothes just as much as their floggers or whatever else.   Really, it's a downer to find fault with somebody else over something they enjoy.  That's sort of like raining on somebodys sunny day or pissing in their corn flakes during breakfast.   Dude, lighten up some about other people.

I'll be honest with you, much of my experience with BDSM and the lifestyle was gained from hands on learning and doing it.  Mind you with a little help from my friends, and my partners.   I really don't consider myself formally trained in the Lifestyle or BDSM itself per se.   In terms of D/s learning, D/s is very much a part of many of my so called vanilla family.  Including aunts and uncles and such.  The power games and control and whatever else.  Somebody being in charge of shit.  Then there's my own social experiences growing up and the whole evolution of myself.   I'm Dominant, and I'm pretty certain it's pretty natural like water is to a fish.  I'm also very twisted and kinky, have been since I was a kid.   I'm a bit of an odd ball when compared to many people.  Why do I know this?  Because so many people over the years telling me this all can't be wrong.

I actually started doing BDSM activities without sex, around the time I was 13.  In fact the first time I did a rape scene when I was 14 years old with the provision that I not go all the way with it having sexual intercourse.  Rape scenes and even forced sex is not about sex, it's about something else.   All stuff I figured out when I was teenager.  Nobody sat me down and explained to me the nature of BDSM and D/s and all this crap.   The first time, I dealt with somebody going through sub-drop was an amazing and crazy experience.  However, I'm a human being with something called compassion and I give a shit about people in general.   Was not very hard to figure out how to deal with sub drop, it's a matter of good old fashioned communication and knowing that it could happen again, because it happened once.

To be honest with you, I'm amazed I've done 1/2 the things I have without somehow making some major fuck up mistakes.  That was just a scarcastic remark I made.  Why?  Because people beat some of these topics to death and are scared shitless about fucking up and making mistakes.   I kind of roll my eyes and wonder what ever happened to common sense?  Then again somebody did not grow up knowing how to safely play with knives and other shit.   Basically, I grew up owning and having knives.   It's the people who have not familarized themselves with knives, fire, rope or whatever else are the ones that need to simply experiment and explore things.   For instance one can go out buy a fucking knife, a sharpening stone, and play around with it themselves.  Caress their own friggen skin with it, press it against safe parts of their body.  Get a feel for what they are doing, including heating and cooling the blade.  Shaving the air off their arms or whatever else.

Anyways, everything I know about knives came from many different people and experiences I had with them in general over the years.  I did not have some Master in the Art of knife play give me a formal training session and teach me this crap.

Everybody has their own skill sets of things that they can do, it's something for anybody to be proud of as well.  I think it's a fair statement that the majority of people doing what it is we all do, did not learn it in some formal workshop or training session.  I might be wrong about that one, I'm not always right.

So yeah, we all have to put ourselves out their to find partners or connect with people of similar interests.  We all have to do our own self marketing.  We all want to show our best sides and not are not so good sides.   Is this an act?  Not really?  perhaps in part a facade to a limited degree.  We are showing the best of ourselves to others.  It takes time to get to really know a person for who and what they really are.   Facades are part of the deal when you first met somebody.  It's a sort of a given.

Now hell, I've had a few girls knees buckle when they were in my presence.  However, not everybody girls knees buckles around me.  Actually if that happened it would seriously scare me.  I think it's only natural for somebody who's really into another person for them to become weak in the knees and have their heart race and the whole nine yards.   Again, this really is something that most people know about.  Many people have experienced it happening to them or having that effect upon somebody else.  It's totally 100% natural when it occurs.   Yes, it's special!  But within the scope of what's happening between two people, not the whole damn wide world.  If that happened like that, it would not be all that special now would it be?

Yes, woman can be just as perverted if not more so compared to many guys.  They are not those innocent fluffy fragile creatures we (us guys) were lead to believe back in grade school.  I actually knew a girl back in grade school who was anything but innocent as well.   Needless to say, I had this illusion shattered a long long long time ago.

This is the bitch about dealing with social conditioning and social groups, either you figure out how to adjust and not take things so personally or you become a bit of a true outcast.  Sure, one can D/s in a one-on-one relationship, some people can D/s a whole fucking group of people.  If you take things too personally, you won't get very far in a social setting.   Hell, if you are a submissive type in a social group and take things too personally the group still won't want anything to do with it.

We all have our private and personal moments in our relationships, and in social settings and events.  At times, it's best to leave the Group D/s to the current host of the event.  Be friendly to everybody and take things in stride.   I really try to be who I am and fuck whatever everybody is thinking about me.  Love me or Hate me, whatever.   People tend to respect and admire my devil could give a rats ass less attitude at times.  

My Grandfather sat me down as a kid and said there are two types of people in this world.  leaders and followers.  Leaders take the risk and put themselves out there.  They make choices and decision and do things that are not alway popular with the crowds.  Leaders follow a code of ethics and morals and don't sway from it to please other people.  Then he sprung the news on me that there are more followers then there are leaders in the world.  Really simple in a nut shell.

I could give a shit less if somebody approved of my jeans, shirt or shorts and shoes or sandles that I'm wearing.  If somebody has a problem with it, it's their problem not mine.   In the mean time, I'm not going to let it eat me upside.  If it did bother me that much, I would come back dressed differently the next time.   Problem fixed!!!!

If you want to fix this social problem and feel it's centered around the clothing you are wearing to these event, well fucking fix the damn problem!  Wear something else that makes a better impression of yourself to other people, and stop taking shit so fucking personally.   Just Wear something differently, and your problem will be somewhat Fixed.  Dugh!  I could of had a V8.

If you look like you just came off from a hike on the beach... you are going to have people looking at you a bit strange.  You sound like you are smart enough to know the kind of attention and heat you are going to get from it.  So either take the heat with a smile on your face and don't let it get to you... or be more conscious to put a better first impression forward!  Save the Beach Bumware to wear later after people have got used to you!   For instance anytime, I dealt with a new client I got all dressed up in business like clothing in the beginning, then after the relationship was established did I let them see me in a pair of Jeans and such.   OMG, this is almost too much common sense is it not?

< Message edited by WhiplashSmile2 -- 9/24/2008 10:00:50 PM >

(in reply to DefinitivelyDom)
Profile   Post #: 21
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 10:40:27 PM   
E2Sweet


Posts: 649
Joined: 7/8/2008
From: TopLeftCornerOf, OH, USA
Status: offline
Ok, here's the Cliffs Notes version for those that weren't able to make it though...

...I always question those who insist on being refered to as ’Master’, or feel the need to identify themselves as a Master... Same is true for submissives.
...There are a lot of actors out there....
...I don’t go to munches. And when I have? I see a lot of actors. Both submissive ones, and Dominant ones...
...I had a lil girl submissive come up to Me and state that; "I don’t look like a Dom!"...
..."Well what the fuck does a Dom look like little clueless girl actor?", I asked....

...When I turned around to join in?, I was BAM!, face to face with 3 little subbie girls...
...They were looking at Me like they saw a ghost they couldn’t believe seeing...
...Looking at Me in awe like I was the 1st one that they’ve ever been in front of...
...And I just popped their balloons without having said one word...
...The host sat back watching all of this with a great big laugh and chuckle. He knew who I was...
...And I was the mindfuck who coordinated, and directed the scenes to be lived out at any gathering we shared.
...Too hardcore with My respect for the ’Definitive’ expectations within D/s...
...Too appreciative, and respectful, of the ’Definitive’ results realized...
...Unable to jeopardize My integrity by conforming to any lesser expectation...
...It was a pretty 19yr. old girl, that I had befriended when I was 24, who looked at Me one day and announced to Me that I was going to be her "Master"...
...She sensed in Me what the 3 subbies in the story above had sensed...
...I was so naturally Dominant that I wasn’t even aware of it...
...A calm confidence. Charisma, Charm, and My ability to say what I felt. Even if it wasn’t so nice.
...Within 3yrs. My Mentor Titled Me as a "Master"...
...He had to convince Me that My skills had exceeded his own on so many levels...
...I prefer simple velcro restraints over ropes anyday...
...I had that Charisma...That Charm......That Integrity...
...That ability to intrigue them with a look, while frightening them with the same look...
...The ability to draw them in with an intoxicating presence...
...I’ve watched girls knees buckle as soon as they enter My personal space...
...I’ve seen their words stumble, and mumble, because of hot flashes in their head...
...I’ve seen them look at their shoes in self shame when their eyes locked onto mine in a way that we both knew I could make them do anything I wanted them to, and that they’d love every minute of it...
...I saw those same eyes rise as I lifted their faces by their chins with My index finger...
...When their eyes again connected with Mine? It was with a plea to do whatever I wanted to them. It was a plea to make them do what they had only imagined, and fantacized about up to that point...

...Stupid Men would never suspect how perverse women actually are...

All I can really say without going on a huge rant is, if anyone showed up at one of our local functions and called someone a "little clueless girl actor", I'm 100% sure he would be shown the door. I'm sorry, but that's just completely and totally ridiculous behavior for anyone above the age of.. say... seven.



_____________________________

E2Sweet
"If it doesn't make you smile then chances are you're not doing it right."

(in reply to DefinitivelyDom)
Profile   Post #: 22
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 10:43:48 PM   
GreedyTop


Posts: 52100
Joined: 5/2/2007
From: Savannah, GA
Status: offline
thx E....

and may I just say about the OP.. arrogance (in the NOT good way) much?


_____________________________

polysnortatious
Supreme Goddess of Snark
CHARTER MEMBER: Lance's Fag Hags!
Waiting for my madman in a Blue Box.

(in reply to E2Sweet)
Profile   Post #: 23
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 10:54:39 PM   
VivaciousSub


Posts: 446
Joined: 9/7/2008
From: Tampa, FL
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: heartcream

OP, I noticed on your profile you are an Expert at Walking.


Oh, I should get lessons from him then. I've been working really hard on my bipedal abilities but it doesn't seem to be working all that well.


_____________________________

9.8m/s^2 + VivaciousSub + ground = ouchx10^9th

To yield readily--easily--to the persuasion of a friend is no merit.... To yield without conviction is no compliment to the understanding of either. ~ Pride and Prejudice

(in reply to heartcream)
Profile   Post #: 24
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 11:01:17 PM   
adrian28


Posts: 833
Joined: 3/8/2008
Status: offline
What's this? You mean my way of being dominant is all wrong?? Whatever will I do now? lol
I don't give a damn what this guy thinks of me or anyone else. My actions speak for themselves.


_____________________________

Dragon of Lust- Adrian
True to my own sense of integrity - Adrian Hayes

(in reply to VivaciousSub)
Profile   Post #: 25
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 11:03:21 PM   
NorthernGent


Posts: 8730
Joined: 7/10/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: DefinitivelyDom

That’s My Perception.
It will not change.



Human beings seem to have an instinct toward custom and community, which means we group together to share ideas and information......you know, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.....which in turn means ideas and peceptions evolve on a daily basis. You can abstain from human progress, of course; alternatively, you could stand ready for your ideas and perceptions to change.

Assuming you have all the time in the world on your hands and you have an IQ of 3,000, you couldn't absorb the required amount of literature in order to come up with the answers, not withstanding the improbability of the existence of the answers.

In sum, arguing "I have the answers" in a "my beliefs will not change" guise, is, ultimately, competing in the most primitive fashion.

_____________________________

I have the courage to be a coward - but not beyond my limits.

Sooner or later, the man who wins is the man who thinks he can.

(in reply to DefinitivelyDom)
Profile   Post #: 26
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 11:03:35 PM   
GreedyTop


Posts: 52100
Joined: 5/2/2007
From: Savannah, GA
Status: offline
ADRIAN!! *hugs*

Viv.. yeah me too.. damned air rocks trip me up all the time...


_____________________________

polysnortatious
Supreme Goddess of Snark
CHARTER MEMBER: Lance's Fag Hags!
Waiting for my madman in a Blue Box.

(in reply to adrian28)
Profile   Post #: 27
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 11:04:50 PM   
GreedyTop


Posts: 52100
Joined: 5/2/2007
From: Savannah, GA
Status: offline
it's good to see you back, NG :) 

_____________________________

polysnortatious
Supreme Goddess of Snark
CHARTER MEMBER: Lance's Fag Hags!
Waiting for my madman in a Blue Box.

(in reply to GreedyTop)
Profile   Post #: 28
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 11:05:37 PM   
adrian28


Posts: 833
Joined: 3/8/2008
Status: offline
Always a pleasure GT.

_____________________________

Dragon of Lust- Adrian
True to my own sense of integrity - Adrian Hayes

(in reply to GreedyTop)
Profile   Post #: 29
RE: Perceptions - 9/24/2008 11:06:45 PM   
Catilicious


Posts: 38
Joined: 3/5/2008
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

quote:

got about 2" down...


thats all men ask for usually....  just saying...




XD I chuckled.

(in reply to faerytattoodgirl)
Profile   Post #: 30
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 12:36:36 AM   
WhiplashSmile2


Posts: 526
Joined: 6/11/2008
Status: offline
I wondering why I wasted so much thought on my previous post.... while these words would have been enough!

If you want to fix this social problem and feel it's centered around the clothing you are wearing to these event, well fucking fix the damn problem!  Wear something else that makes a better impression of yourself to other people, and stop taking shit so fucking personally.   Just Wear something differently, and your problem will be somewhat Fixed.  Dugh!  I could of had a V8.


(in reply to WhiplashSmile2)
Profile   Post #: 31
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 12:45:28 AM   
GreedyTop


Posts: 52100
Joined: 5/2/2007
From: Savannah, GA
Status: offline
LMAO Whip!!




_____________________________

polysnortatious
Supreme Goddess of Snark
CHARTER MEMBER: Lance's Fag Hags!
Waiting for my madman in a Blue Box.

(in reply to WhiplashSmile2)
Profile   Post #: 32
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 4:06:19 AM   
catize


Posts: 3020
Joined: 3/7/2006
Status: offline
quote:

 That’s My Perception.
It will not change. 


Perhaps you should consider a name change:  "master moribund' or maybe "sir stagnant"
Any votes?

_____________________________

"Power is real. But it's a lot less real if it's not perceived as power."
Robert Parker, Stranger in Paradise

(in reply to DefinitivelyDom)
Profile   Post #: 33
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 4:18:03 AM   
Twicehappy2x


Posts: 1096
Joined: 3/27/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL DefinitivelyDom

I always question those who insist on being refered to as ’Master’, or feel the need to identify themselves as a Master...


Yet from your profile;

"I have Mastered, One who has Mastered,  A true Master,  And I was the mindfuck who coordinated, The ’Master’mind,   My Mentor Titled Me as a "Master"."
 
You know, way too often i see a slam fest going on here on the boards and  i always just ignore them. But, wow, what is this about? I am better than everybody else because i do not declare myself in an attempt at impressing anybody post? I am so good at this everybody can just see/feel it?



_____________________________

The human heart is not a finite container but an ever expanding universe with all the stars contained there in.

(in reply to DefinitivelyDom)
Profile   Post #: 34
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 4:33:31 AM   
Twicehappy2x


Posts: 1096
Joined: 3/27/2007
Status: offline
Tis a beauteous impulse
But a failure to impress

At His riches and fortune, I laugh and scorn
For No wealth is grander than that of health and hand

At His abundant possessions, I gaze and toss aside
For No possession is worthier than that of love and learning

At His beauty supreme, should I marvel and praise
For No beauty is more supreme than that of virtues, valour and reason

At His naked charm, should I surrender and stand charmed
For No charm can surpass humble chivalrous ways

At His Arrogance and Pride, I do not yield
For No arrogance nor pride can diminish that which is mine

‘Tis a beauteous impulse
But a failure to impress

(unknown poet)


< Message edited by Twicehappy2x -- 9/25/2008 5:00:58 AM >


_____________________________

The human heart is not a finite container but an ever expanding universe with all the stars contained there in.

(in reply to DefinitivelyDom)
Profile   Post #: 35
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 5:00:52 AM   
persephonee


Posts: 5089
Joined: 12/15/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

*snort*

I honestly tried to read it..

got about 2" down...

but then I went looking for sparklies......


come'ere GT...i gotcher sparklies.....

_____________________________

You be the Captain; i'll be no one.

And You can carry me away....if You want to. ~Kasey Chambers

E*Whore, extraordinaire....

Nothing is exactly as it seems~Nor, is it otherwise.

(in reply to GreedyTop)
Profile   Post #: 36
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 5:37:09 AM   
JewAndCelt


Posts: 110
Joined: 8/23/2008
From: Arkansas
Status: offline
Well, he is quite patronizing and... long-winded, to say the least.

But hey, thankfully there is not one single mention of goat-swallowing.

_____________________________

Maturity is patience. Mastery is nine times patience.


!!!!!!כי לא נולד הבן זונה שיעצור את ישראל

(in reply to persephonee)
Profile   Post #: 37
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 6:02:58 AM   
RCdc


Posts: 8674
Status: offline
It's pretty long winded, but I made it through.
I don't see a question or a statement - but an attempt at self promotion.  Which is cool if your open about it.  But if there is a point you were trying to make, it's lost.  Unless you want to come back and clarify at all.
The one thing that jumps out and will put many people off however, is the claim that your perception will not change.  That is pretty closed minded and not particularly attractive as it simply shows a willingness to grow.  Not particularly healthy IMO.
 
the.dark.

_____________________________


RC&dc


love isnt gazing into each others eyes - it's looking forward in the same direction

(in reply to DefinitivelyDom)
Profile   Post #: 38
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 6:15:14 AM   
badlilthang


Posts: 357
Joined: 6/22/2006
Status: offline
i dunno...must be the blonde part of my brain kicking in - i saw that entire post as just irony or a joke - just to see what kind of responses he would get...*chuckles*...but hey - i have been wrong before..

_____________________________

.Forgiveness is the fragrance a flower leaves in the air after being crushed underfoot.

(in reply to RCdc)
Profile   Post #: 39
RE: Perceptions - 9/25/2008 6:22:35 AM   
subeos


Posts: 140
Joined: 5/23/2008
Status: offline
The profile I could not even get through. To me sounds like a inflated ego. It must hurt to have such perfectness in you.

slave eos

~To Thine Own Self Be True~



(in reply to badlilthang)
Profile   Post #: 40
Page:   <<   < prev  1 [2] 3 4 5   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: Perceptions Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3 4 5   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.109