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Owner4SexSlave -> Relationship options, roles and mindset (9/25/2008 6:15:15 AM)

I tend to be somewhat eclectic in nature and I come with many sub-titles.

Being somebody's "Master" is simply an option for me.  It's a sub-title and role I've had in life already.  However, it's not a relationship requirement.  When I use the word "Master" I have a strong association with the mindset of owning somebody.  That there are indeed property that I own.  It's certain headspace and mindset that occupies me.   It does not change me as a person.  Does not make me any less or any more of the person that I am.

My mindset in a D/s relationship that does not involve ownership per se, but one where I'm in charge of things is a bit different. I don't look at the other person as property.  Still, I'm in charge of the show.  My mindset and headspace is slightly different. Needless to say this does not change me as person either.

The mindset of owning somebody vs. being in charge of somebody is slightly different.  This is the point I'm attempting to make here.   Now, some people will quickly grasp and understand this point.  It might confuse others though.  My mental Association of what a Master is involves Total Authority along with ownership of somebody.  Sure I'm still in charge of them just like I am with somebody in a D/s relationship.  However, the difference being ownership vs. non-ownership.

Let me toss in another option here as well.  Being an Equal with somebody in a Dom power couple relationship.  Again a totally different mindset.  The mindset of ownership nor being in charge of somebody is involved.   However, none the less I still funcation as a Dom just in tandum with a Domme.   It's a bit like two people being one with one another.   Sure, a M/s and D/s relationship both people function a bit like one as well.   The Oneness and mindsets involve are just a little bit different.

I will confess something here, anything outside of these three basic relationships structures, I totally suck at!  Why? Because I have a Dominant personality.  Being Dom is something more for me besides a relationship option.   There are very Dominant personalities that enjoy something called submission.  Hence is where one can mentally grasp the almost abstract concept of what a "Dominant submissive" is.   However, this is bit over some peoples heads.   Many people want to keep things simple and well defined in a limited set of labels with a limited understanding.

Mind you this is all the headspace and mindsets involved with basic relationship structure options.

Something that strikes me somewhat differently is the Daddy Dom headspace and mindset.  Literally, for me it's somewhere between the ownership and the being in charge of somebody headspace.  Looking at somebody as being "my little girl" is a totally different world compared to looking at them as a slave/property I own, or as somebody I'm simply in charge of.   or as my evil power twin in a Dom couple relationship. 

I'm going to digress into something called Chemistry between two people.  I'm a bit of a chemistry junkie, I'll go with the flow if there is good chemistry. Why not?  Does it really change my moral ethics or who I am as a person?  Does it somehow change my orientation at all?  Ummmm... not really.   Sure my headspace and mindset is rather different.   Am I somewhat different in how I act or conduct myself between these different relationships, to a point and degree it does.  You betcha it does.

Anyways, I come with sub-titles.  These are sub-titles are just options that fit well to my orientation.  I will say this, all my relationships have been different and diverse and full of many experiences, good and bad.  Ups and Down.  No relationship is free of issues.  Not even BDSM lifestyle ones.

When it comes to kink I'm somewhat varied as well, the best kink/sex I have had is when it's of mutual interests and desires.  A two way street.  One way stuff after a bit tends to grow old and boring.   It's a bit like getting bored with ones ownself, and generally I'm pretty good at keeping myself entertained.   Still, the element of what the other person brings to a relationship can  keep things interesting.  I honestly don't see too many profiles where people are seeking creative personality types.  There's a lot of beat me, abuse me, whip me, fuck me, love me, control me, guide me, and don't love me things being expressed.  Not to mention the endless bitches about fakes, wankers and wanna be's.

I'm simply a guy that comes with sub-titles, options and along with it the ability to jump into the headspace swim and bask in it.  None of this changes the core of who and what I really am.

I see many people trying to define themselves by specific types of relationships, instead of letting themselves define the relationships instead.  People going against the grain of natural chemistry, trying to force things that are really options to explore, and they get so consumed with their roles that they become blind to common sense.




OttersSwim -> RE: Relationship options, roles and mindset (9/25/2008 7:27:54 AM)

Wow, you cover a lot of territory in your post and I enjoyed the ride.  Two things that really spoke to me were your concepts of trying to force a relationship into a pattern based on roles or titles - and the concept of "please beat me, but don't love me".

I think a lot of people are out there looking for "love" in a relationship, and a lot of people are out there trying to avoid "love" in a relationship.  And I will separate affection from love here. 

What I wonder is if the use of defined titles and roles facilitates that sort of "affection but not love" relationship?  Let's face it, a love relationship is not for everyone due to life circumstances/mindset/etc. - Love = Commitment - and some are just not able to step up to that level of commitment for various reasons.

I stumbled into BDSM and found myself looking for a love relationship in a D/s dynamic.  I was lucky and found someone looking for the same thing.  So our dynamic is not necessarily based on roles or titles, though during play we do use them.  Outside of play, it is very much like a vanilla relationship, but with that heart connection of D/s providing a beautiful undercurrent and melody to everything we do.

Not sure if I completely followed your intent there, but some thoughts...




CreativeDominant -> RE: Relationship options, roles and mindset (9/25/2008 7:49:09 AM)

You DO cover a lot of territory in your post.  Thought-provoking...

What am I?  Well, I am a human being who defines himself as a brother, father, ex-husband, doctor, dominant.  I want a long-term relationship with a sweet submissive woman who is, or wants to be, owned by me and loved by me and dominated by me;  a sweet lady who has the need for "Daddy" to come into play sometimes, not just in play but in the "real" world but who is a grown woman who is responsible for her actions; someone sweet and obedient but with spirit but NOT the brat spirit.  Someone who revels in her sexuality yet is still astounded by the level of her sexual drive with the right man, the right dominant...and that dominant is me.  Awoman who understands that the delicious wickedness of getting on her knees and shoulders and wantonly pushing that sweet, round and full ass up in the air and pleading in a "little girl" voice, "Please...fuck your ass, Daddy?" is matched in my mind by her doing all the above but saying in her best submissive manner "My ass is yours, Sir...I know you will do as you wish to with it".

So...is that me looking for a specific relationship...trying to define myself by a relationship OR is that me doing as you note;  define the relationship myself and, someday, with a loving and sweet submissive?  I prefer to think it is the latter.

As you note, all that you note and all that I have noted above do require different tweakings of the mindset but within the parameters described, I enjoy tweaking my own mindset and that of the girl that is with me.  Nothing is so far off from the others that it cannot be done and yet, nothing is so similar that one personna fits all.





persephonee -> RE: Relationship options, roles and mindset (9/25/2008 7:52:41 AM)

well said.




leadership527 -> RE: Relationship options, roles and mindset (9/25/2008 8:51:16 AM)

Yes




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