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corysub -> RE: Post Debate (9/27/2008 1:57:54 AM)
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
I thought neither candidate particularly distinguished himself. A draw probably helps McCain.
To me what clouded the debate are the handcuffs holding the USA down, namely quagmires in IRAQ, Afghanistan, and Wall Street. These things reduce each candidate's ability to project any kind of achievable agenda.
When McCain says we are winning in IRAQ, I really have no idea what he means. When Obama said we need timetables for IRAQ, I'm not sure how that would go. Its also cloudy weather when hearing about Afghanistan.
McCain wants to reign in spending, but his earmark plan looks ridiculous. McCain wants to cap spending, but he won't eye any kind of military spending cuts and he won't go near entitlements either.
Problems in the banking system, problems in foreign policy --- big problems all around --- Obama did ask, "how did we get here?" Although I see that as the deciding factor in this election, the electorate might yet again issue the Republicans another free pass.
I agree with your initial comment...neither candidate really "won" the debate which means if you like Nobama before the debate you still like him...if you liked McPain before the debate you still like him. For most, I think,
it actually is not favoring either one of these guys...it a question who we each feel is "the lesser of two evils". Obama is an immature guy who has accomplished nothing other than benefit his own career with clever politics. Every issue we face today IS above his paygrade. McCain has no clue what the impact of our open borders, or worse, he doesn't care about the invasion from Mexico and Latin America is having on our society.
You have to recognize that Iraq is in the center of the most important and strategic area from oil that drives our economy, and will continue to drive our economy in our lifetimes and the lifetimes of our children. Obama wants to remove American influence from the area, abandon our friends in the area, by building distrust that America stands for anything and "when the going gets tough, America quits" will be how we are viewed globally. We wrote that in bold letter in VietNam, and the premature withhdrawal from Iraq will have the same profound influence on how we are perceived by tough leaders across the globe, not to mention we would have a totally demoralized military that has sacrificed so much for our country.
The democrat party is against drilling, the democrat party is against clean coal sources of power, the democrat party is against nuclear energy even though the majority of Frence energy comes from nuclear plants, a country with whom the democrat party has a love affair. Nope, their solution.."windmills"....Yep..WINDMILLS! The idiocy of windmills is a national tragedy, and the greenies have our country charging ahead to attack the wind like Don Quixote. Oh, by the way, no one discusses that green organizations don't want the infracture that will transport the windmill energy (as long as the wind is blowing of course) across the national parks. And we all know how important our national parks are to our livelihoods. Save the "spotted owl", save the "snail darter" save the friggin polar bears..but screw the humanity of our country...Way to go guys!
Thank God the proud Americans of today, like the proud Romans of 2,000 years ago won't be around to read the history books to be written about the Fall of the American democracy in the 21st Century. It fell because the wind stopped and America didn't have the fossil fuels or nuclear plants to send power to the grid., and America stopped! Just stopped! I grew up in NYC and there are parts of the West Side that would probably applaud that development. Sieg Heil, Herr Obermann.
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