Termyn8or
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Hunk, you're the only one eh ? (so far)
Perhaps you have not heard my views on homosexuality. I was never homophobic, nor did I ever participate in any Fag bashing, although I did think it was wrong. That was years ago.
I thought it wrong because if everybody was homosexual there would be no more people. My thinking has changed obviously, and I'll tell you why.
First of all that article is thirty years old. I read it as a teenager and more recently my Mother dropped off a bunch of books. That particular article is from a circa 1970s supplement to what was called the Young People's Science Encyclopedia, something I read almost cover to cover.
A few years ago I was working on the Jose job, to not reveal the last name. Jose was a flaming homosexual, and had a flair "to die for". We turned his house into a palace practically. Well, during the job we would be at the house working and he would get home from work. Sometimes we had a few beers and eventually the topic got around to homosexuality. I gave him my rationale for my opinion and he responded that "Nobody would choose this". Being about my age I knew exactly what he meant, and concluded that there are stronger forces at work here than we can manage. Nature is at work.
At that time my mind went back to that article, and I like to think that I figured something out. This was nature's response to overcrowding. Whether it is induced by societal factors or some sort of force we have yet to understand is irrelevant. Nature is making a correction. There is going to be X percent of the population that does not reproduce. There are too many people, go figure.
I figure that nature has worked over the milennia otherwise we would not be here. You can't fight something like this. How can you ? If you look at a good looking Woman and don't get turned on, what the heck can you do ? Like me, if there is nothing kinky involved I have a hard time. Simple straight up sex is not the be all and end all.
For many it is. All they can think about. They work to get a cool car to pick up chicks. They get all spiffed up to pick up chicks. It is all that is on their mind. Anyone who doesn't think their way is abnormal in their eyes.
The animals in those studies reported in the article seem to make me think of the saying "alone in a crowd".
Interesting to note in that article is that the mice that isolated themselves from the goings on around them were the healthiest. Could this paralell the reason for humans to move out to the suburbs or stix ? To get some liebeschraum ? The article though said that the term is not directly translatable, but I have heard that it translates to living room. Not as in your livingroom, I mean room for living.
Perhaps the sika deer could not isolate themselves in this way.
I am not fond of the implied link between homosexuality and pedophilia, when they stated in the same breath that sexual attacks upon the same sex and "juveniles" occurred. But this is the thinking. We all know they are two different things, but people don't look at it this way.
There is a thread, I think it is "Jail for BDSM porn" or something like that in Alternative in the news. The link takes you to cleveland.com and there are a bunch of comments there. There is a question about whether the guy had kiddie porn or not, which has not been resolved to my satisfaction. But the comments below the article refer to BDSMers as freaks and all that, I mean some of them downright nasty. That is acceptable I guess. I have considered going to cleveland.com and posting a rebuttal to these narrow minded morons.
Perhaps in nature, sexual assault on the same sex and "juveniles" may happen at the same time in a species' history. My point is that it does not make them the same thing. They may be different manifestations of the same force of nature, but they are vastly different. The only thing the two manifestations have in common really is that there will be less offspring.
Perhaps kink is another manifestation of the same force. Look at chastity belt sales, and I mean for recreational use, even if it is for 24/7. We need to recognize the difference between these things.
The religious types and some others see sex as bad if it is non-procreational in intent. Who are they to tell us ? The vanilla straight people seem to paint us all with one brush. They seem to think that liking to be tied up, or spanked or something like that is the same thing as being into pedophilia or beastiality, and we all know it is not so.
They do not. I included in an email earlier that most wars are fought for gain, what about the rest ? The rest are fought because of fear. Fear of the unknown. They do not know.
People inherently fear the unknown, and if a spaceship came and ETs were getting out and speaking English, I would be happy to engage them in a conversation. Others would dial 911 faster than the buttons on the phone could pop back up. I think that if they intended harm to us, with their superior technology it would have been done already.
Realize the ramifications of this irrational fear. Realize that it is illegal for a US Citizen to have contact with ETs. Know why ? FEAR. What's more if they are familiar with our government and I make friends with them, the government could be in big trouble. That is fear. Going after Iran is fear, alot of things are borne from fear. Fear is a powerful force for those who embrace it, yet try to cover it up with supposed strength. They think it obscures their true motives, but that doesn't work for me.
Act tough, that way you might avoid a conflict in which you would have to prove yourself.
I should go put that in in the Human nature thread, see what they think.
Long enough, I have alot more rabble rousing to do.
T
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