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When subs hurt Mistresses/Masters ? - 12/2/2005 6:30:06 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		You can't ever explain when a person has a connection to another as many out here , if lucky, will experience at sometime. So why do so many subs and slaves feel doms can't be hurt by lying or misleading them. I have spoken to so many out here , that show pictures, and share so much of what they seek from a sub/slave. They really give so much to us and we hopefully trust them enoughand appreciate them back . But when you disappear from the face of the earth , or promise to meet them after all the time involved in getting to know each other and never show up,Do you not think others have feelings . They are making time for you and really have so much more to give us as subs and slaves back. Don't waste their time hiding the fact your not into ltr if they are looking for it. Just remember , the doms out here, many of them , are people and deserve to be respected not only for their postion, but as people of trust when they earn it.So why do subsand slaves hurt the people they want in ther lives ?
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RE: When subs hurt Mistresses/Masters ? - 12/2/2005 6:36:27 PM   
veronicaofML


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Status: offline 		i dont know. why did my 3 wives hurt me?

life has many bad things.
most people...not me...but most/...are able to move-on.

me?

i hold grudges...
i dont have-to know someone to hate em...
i sometimes do shit just because...on principle.
take care


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RE: When subs hurt Mistresses/Masters ? - 12/2/2005 6:58:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: openmindedslave

You can't ever explain when a person has a connection to another as many out here , if lucky, will experience at sometime. So why do so many subs and slaves feel doms can't be hurt by lying or misleading them. I have spoken to so many out here , that show pictures, and share so much of what they seek from a sub/slave. They really give so much to us and we hopefully trust them enoughand appreciate them back . But when you disappear from the face of the earth , or promise to meet them after all the time involved in getting to know each other and never show up,Do you not think others have feelings . They are making time for you and really have so much more to give us as subs and slaves back. Don't waste their time hiding the fact your not into ltr if they are looking for it. Just remember , the doms out here, many of them , are people and deserve to be respected not only for their postion, but as people of trust when they earn it.So why do subsand slaves hurt the people they want in ther lives ?


It is not just the subs/slaves who indulge in such a misleading activity. :)

Alot could be contributed to fear, anxiety, insecurities, etc. Most often, it is nothing more than PLAYERS. They get their kicks out of playing games with others.

/shrug

Though it is painful at the time, all you can do is pick yourself up, and try not to let this completly consume you. Chalk it up to experience, and go from there.

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RE: When subs hurt Mistresses/Masters ? - 12/2/2005 7:01:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		In all walks of life there are always insensitive jerks. You just have to move on. :)

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RE: When subs hurt Mistresses/Masters ? - 12/3/2005 10:37:37 AM   
tasha_tart


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ORIGINAL: IrishMist



It is not just the subs/slaves who indulge in such a misleading activity. :)

Alot could be contributed to fear, anxiety, insecurities, etc. Most often, it is nothing more than PLAYERS. They get their kicks out of playing games with others.

/shrug

Though it is painful at the time, all you can do is pick yourself up, and try not to let this completly consume you. Chalk it up to experience, and go from there.


I would agree with you on this. However, if someone has decided that he or she is not ready for a meeting, or is too scared, or realizes it just isn't "right" common (uncommon?) courtesy would call for a polite message of explanation/apology.

You are right that it is not limited to the "s" side of "D/s". I have driven considerable distance to meet a Domme, and been able to make contact with nothing but a full voicemail inbox...suppose calling before setting out would have been a good idea.

And, aside from that...there is no shortage of jerks in any area of life one cares to name.

I echo your advice...put it behind you and move on...this is about their rudeness, or "playing", or manipulativeness, and not about you. At one time or another virtually all of us will fall victim, to some degree, to a person like that. It helps make it easier to see it coming next time.

Tasha


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RE: When subs hurt Mistresses/Masters ? - 12/3/2005 3:49:44 PM   
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I would agree with you on this. However, if someone has decided that he or she is not ready for a meeting, or is too scared, or realizes it just isn't "right" common (uncommon?) courtesy would call for a polite message of explanation/apology.


Yes, in this respect, I would agree with you wholeheartedly. Common courtesy demands that you call, or at the very least, let the other person know of your fears. Though it may anger you, at least then you would have known. Also, in the same vein, honesty demands that these fears be discussed BEFORE a meeting is to take place. Unfortunatly, not everyone adheres to the same definition of what most would consider to be just common courtesy and manners. It's a shame, but there are those out there who really just don't care about anyone but themselves.


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RE: When subs hurt Mistresses/Masters ? - 12/5/2005 9:41:52 AM   
AlderTheKitty


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Status: offline 		i my ex lied about how much she knew and abused me so this crap about all insenceitve people being male is BS women are just as insecitive and abusive as men are they just have differant tacktics which under the law you can't get aressed for verbaly harassing a spouse isn't a crime and it sickens me the way police will rightout ignor clames by men reporting abuse unless they are homosexual

now on the main topic it isn't worth it to lie in this life style my ex made me lie to friends about my age because i was 17 and the age to go to the munch was 18 and she didn't want to go alone and i hated my self for doing it becuase they cared so much about me but it turned out to be her down fall cause now if she comes near me she'll have 6 dominants on her ass

if a dom asks you something and your un comfortable sith the topic don't lie to impress her tell the truth or say i'm not comfrotable talking about that

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RE: When subs hurt Mistresses/Masters ? - 12/5/2005 10:50:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Yes, in this respect, I would agree with you wholeheartedly. Common courtesy demands that you call, or at the very least, let the other person know of your fears. Though it may anger you, at least then you would have known. Also, in the same vein, honesty demands that these fears be discussed BEFORE a meeting is to take place. Unfortunatly, not everyone adheres to the same definition of what most would consider to be just common courtesy and manners. It's a shame, but there are those out there who really just don't care about anyone but themselves.





Definitely no shortage of people for whom "it's all about me" and likely never will be.

Fears, needs, expectations, health concerns...all these and more may need to be dealt with in advance, but what happens to a lot of people is the failure to listen immediately to the little voice inside saying "this is a bad idea!"

That little voice gets shouted down by the initial anticipation or excitement of something new, perhaps the fulfillment of something one has always thought was wanted. One may fail to voice concerns or fears for fear of seeming naive, or untrusting or uninformed. But after time to reflect a bit more one may listen more careully, and realize that what was aranged just isn't, or at least doesn't feel like, the right thing.

Should one act on that voice? I think so. At best, those inner qualms may spoil the enjoyment of something it seems one isn't ready for. At worst, one can get into a situation that s/he cannot safely handle.

Having said all that, at the very least a phone call is in order to cancel a planned meeting. That's no different from the expectations in non-kink situations.

I know that call can be hard to make (been there, done that...and received a couple as well) but there is nothing to be gained by being rude. Also, that call may spark a further discussion of whatever the issues were...not necessarily with a view to changing one's mind, but perhaps helping gain a better understanding.

Tasha




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