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playfulotter -> Bar Stool Economics... (9/29/2008 6:15:04 PM)

With all that is going on in the economy lately this is a neat submission: (i hope it hasn't been posted before....) A friend from this site sent it to me last week....[image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/smiley/buddies.gif[/image]

BAR STOOL ECONOMICS

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten
comes to $100.

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something
like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day
and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw
them a curve.

'Since you are all such good customers, he said, I'm going to reduce the
cost of your daily beer by $20.

Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the
first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what
about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the
$20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that
from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end
up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would
be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he
proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.!

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100%
savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued
to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare
their savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20, 'declared the sixth man. He pointed to
the tenth man, 'but he got $10!'

'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too.
It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!'

'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I
got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'*

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat
down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill,
they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between
all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our
tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit
from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and
they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking
overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia





Termyn8or -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (9/29/2008 6:28:08 PM)

Good point, probably doesn't belong in the hunor section.

T




BlackPhx -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (9/29/2008 6:56:37 PM)

LOL yes it does..as it panders to the lowest denominator...and tosses the fact that while the richest SHOULD have paid the most according to the economics of it, the way the tax code is written the middle men end up bearing the cost for both the richest and the poorest.

poenkitten




playfulotter -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (9/29/2008 7:11:12 PM)

Thanks for your response BlackPhx..Wow.. you brought a good opinion into the mix....and Mr. Termyn8or...if You don't see it as a joke then i question your sense of humor as it was sent to me in that spirit.




Termyn8or -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (9/29/2008 8:46:33 PM)

Oh, I see the humor, but it is not a healthy humor at all. Posting this in off topic would probably get you alot of interesting responses.

Thing is, I am not a taxpayer, paying income tax is voluntary and I do not volunteer. If this government ever helps me make money I will volunteer. Like rock stars should pay, the enforced (somewhat) copyright laws is what makes them money. Anyone using intellectual property to make money should pay, as they are using the system. I don't use the system therefore I owe it nothing. I am on terra firma when it comes to morality, if that changes I will change. Until then, they get nothing.

T




AMaster -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (9/30/2008 2:04:35 PM)

True.  Not that funny.  Sadly true.




thegirlincharge -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (9/30/2008 2:22:32 PM)

You know, many of the wealthy have worked very hard to be that wealthy.
I liked this little story...thanks![sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif]




MadAxeman -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (9/30/2008 10:03:08 PM)

Of course it's more funny than true. A mathematical paradox, like when removing time spent getting to work, getting home from work, sick days, the weekends, the kids, the elderly etc until it appears that nobody is working. It may not be a thighslapper, but well worth the postage.




SailingBum -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (10/1/2008 10:12:06 PM)

ehh life goes on




LexiTempest -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (10/2/2008 12:38:39 AM)

It reminds Me of this paradox:

Three traveling salesmen checked into an inn.
The regular cost of the room is $30. Each man pays $10.
But the manager overcharged them, so she sends the bellhop to their room with $5 refund.
The bellhop pockets $2, and gives each man back $1.

Here's the perplexing puzzle:

The three men each paid $9 for the room. That's $27. The bellhop kept $2 as his "tip" but they originally paid $30. Where's the missing dollar?


...Just wanted to see if anyone remembered that old gem. :P




MadAxeman -> RE: Bar Stool Economics... (10/2/2008 1:34:56 AM)

$30 minus $5 + $2 is $27
Needed an extra go at that phew...




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