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ORIGINAL: lizcgirl

I do not and will not submit to just any one. If you hand out your submission to any person you meet, how can you consider it 'special'? Maybe my logic doesn't make sense, but to me my submission to my Master is the biggest gift I can give Him and if I handed it out to every one else, it would trivialize what we have. I recently had an encounter with a girl who claimed to be a 'real slave' and how she thought to prove how 'real' she considered herself was to submit to any Dom who would speak with her and promise anything and everything to them. It disgusted me because the ones that did meet with her basically ended up describing her as a bag of flesh- no response, no personality, nothing. How people could find that attractive is beyond me. In my eyes, that isn't submitting, that's more like being a parasite looking for a host to feed off of because you can't exist on your own.

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Yes, I tend to dominate those around me in some way. BUT, it's a different type of domination than with a s type person that I want to be a part of my life. One is personality, the other is more of an active choice based upon all of her qualities that attract me to her.

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I often refer to myself as a doormat, but that's usually in the context of a relationship.  If I like someone, yeah, I'll want to do stuff for them even if its only in the interests of friendship.   And, if I like someone and they give me an order I'll generally follow it.  'Cause, ya know, I'm like that.

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So, the question is...S-types Could you submit to anyone? D types Could you Dominate anyone? And although, I'm sure that all COULD...would you want to?

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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

So, the question is...S-types Could you submit to anyone? 

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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress
So, the question is...S-types Could you submit to anyone?   And although, I'm sure that all COULD...would you want to?

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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

So, my new boy and I were talking...this conversation has been a short spurted ongoing one for a few weeks...but here's the idea...

I have been talking with, meeting, and sometimes playing with several submissives over the last 2-3 months.  Most of them fail the initial meeting, and the majority of those that made it to the first play date failed as well. 

How did they fail?  It mattered not to them who I was, what I was about, or even that I was human.   I could have been Mother Theresa or Oprah or Lizzie Borden.  They were all happy to fall at my feet, worship me, and obey for eternity.  It didn't even matter if I was into their particular fetish, or if it was something I had no interest in.

Nothing could turn me off more.  Call me silly, but I require some kind of feeling, some kind of chemistry, SOMETHING more than "ok, you will stand still while I beat you? GREAT!"  Maybe it's because I'm not in it just for the S&M, that's an important component, but not the basis of a relationship for me. 

I can't stand door mats, I don't want a sub/slave that bows or kneels to anyone with a Dominant/Master/Mistress label. 

So, the question is...S-types Could you submit to anyone?  D types Could you Dominate anyone?  And although, I'm sure that all COULD...would you want to?

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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress
 D types Could you Dominate anyone?  And although, I'm sure that all COULD...would you want to?

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress
So, the question is...S-types Could you submit to anyone?

Well, submitting and bottoming are two different things.  It sounds like you were describing bottoming at first, but then talking about submission toward the end.

I can bottom to a larger number/variety of people than I can submit to.  But for either one, there has to be something, an interest in their particular talent with a flogger, a certain vibe, whatever. 


Cali

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW
Wow, I guess I haven't met a lot of the folks of the majority opinion so far on this thread over the years of attending events and thoroughly enjoying the attentions and interaction with the truly awesome submissive folk who made sure I had a plate of food and a beverage of my choice, even though they weren't -mine-, or who gave themselves up to the desire to be of service (not just used, mind you... though I love the bottoms who do that to death, too...) and gave me the opportunity to decorate them with rosy stripes, multicolored sharps, and dancing flames... and all the amazing dominant types who made such beautiful patterns on the folks who offered themselves up for the evening and who weren't worried about whether this person ONLY wanted to submit to -them- or just really wanted to give themselves up to someone who would appreciate that they wanted to make the journey, for the sake of the journey.

I honestly don't see what is wrong with the s-type who is eager to serve and is willing to just yield for the experience of submission... or with the d-type who is willing to give that s-type the opportunity to have that experience in service. Maybe someone can explain to me why this would be such a horrible thing, and what is so frigging bad about doormats, because I just don't think I -get- it.

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

I wasn't talking about bottoming -either-. I consider bottoming to be almost a separate category --more about the specific act than about submission per se-- heck, most of the bottoms I play aren't submissive aside from enjoying being on the receiving end of whatever we're playing... and honestly, when it comes to getting tats or piercings, I consider myself the bottom, because I -love- getting them, but I'm definitely not submissive.

I was, and am, talking about the precious, darling s-types who are just dying to kneel at -someone's- feet. They may be new, untrained, they're eager as puppies. They're not necessarily discriminating, but honestly, that can come later.

I have absolutely -no- problem with the idea of someone eager for the experience... I don't mind taking care of a "doormat" and giving hir some protection and a chance to blow off some of the frenzy. I don't even have a problem with being Dame "Right Now" while we -both- work towards finding that s-type a Dom or Dame "Right", if that's what xhe's looking for.

Honestly, I completely understand a d-type preferring to have an s-type that is only hirs once they've clicked, but what I -don't- understand is the 'holier than thou', demeaning, self-righteous attitudes that act like there is something -wrong- or dirty or inappropriate about the person who is just plain -submissive-, in general. Heck, call them doormats... I'll gladly take one of those beautiful doormats off your hands, because you know what, that sense of complete submission to -life- just rocks my block... I guess I just can't fathom how someone who is dominant by nature could look at a person who is eager to yield and not see the beauty and perfection in them being just that way, so malleable, and so vulnerable, and so eager to be pleasing and so trusting that the community will have a place for them to be who they are without apology. To me, that is just absolutely, amazingly beautiful... and the way they look at you when you give them the chance to express their submission.... like sunlight on a waterfall.

Calla Firestorm