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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
People just don't get it. WEALTH IS OURS.
However, people never seem to grow to understand what overstretched or overextended means. The Romans didn't and look what happened to them. It is coming because like the Romans, we will not stop. Because we do not educate correctly we get the results we got.
Couples having nine kids screwed it up. Even if each go on to a productive life the demand is created. In any case in human society there will be "organisers" who figure out how to get a piece of the profit on a large scale. This has been going on forever. I would agree that it has taken a nastier trend lately, but it is still the same thing, greed.
I was taught that the idea of starting a business was to get it running well enough, with enough people you can trust, and walk out and keep collecting. If you need more money, go start another business. You can do this again and again, and only see any of the businesses you started infrequently.
When this model is applied to the Ponzi schemes of the financial markets, disaster occurs.
In the end, what does this whole game depend on for sustainence ? Us. In the past it was a population explosion, people would invest in the future, here in the US. It was convenient and it made sense. The consumerism of those decades was driven by a general prosperity as well as the sense thereof. People bought their new toys with savings, but they usually bought quality products which lasted.
When people started buying imported goods, which they did for the pure and simple reason of price, they told the bankers and financiers what they wanted. They told the TV and car manufacturers what they wanted.
That world, the same world with perhaps one third of the population, how much demand would there be for food, gas, electricity, roads, infrastructure and last but not least, leibeschraum ?
And now every person has to have their own phone, ipod, computer, car, and sometimes house. This created a demand that those "organisers" were actually helpful in providing years ago. But things have changed.
The fact still remains, we made ourselves a target for this. There is no getting out of it. You can blame earlier generations because they are at fault. But who taught them ? And who taught those who taught them ? You can take this back to the dawn of time.
Some people say not to focus on how we got here, but if we want to get out, I think that is exactly what we should be thinking about. It's not about an election or the fact that the money printing presses will again run. It is about the trend.
We need to stop. We need to stop buying this junk, and possibly even do without. I mean lots of us. Don't buy anything new, all used. Stop them in their tracks. Do your Christmas shopping at a thrift store, with an eye open for the unusual of course. Look in a local paper, maybe even eBay if you dare. Nothing new, always used and already located in this country.
Other things, get by on as little as you can, even if your can full of money keeps growing. Get essentials. Whatever you do, do not buy a non-essential item new. Make it a point not to do so.
We have the power to decrease the demand. That is what the layman can do.
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This is my next internet project, I'm going to do.
Here's the idea.
I have a large building I use for getting my stuff to sell and store it, about 20,000 square feet. However, my interests are divergent in nature, and thus I do some web programming to, which I found if I applied myself I could make a full time income from. So, I have a few resources, Building Space, knowledge of E-commerce, and good enough programming knowledge to build decent web applications.
So, here's the idea. People that are local oriented generally don't have a regular place to sell their stuff, as in artists, repair people, laymen mechanics ect.. They are lacking an outlet that is easy to find. Also, people that sell stuff erratically generally do so by having a rummage sale, or throwing a for sale sign on there car, again not ideal. Thus my thought is to form a central hub, in the real world for these people to use as a central selling point. So, let's say you want to sell your car, and want to sell it to where it would get more exposure and people would be looking for cars and other used, or custom stuff, you could pay a very reasonable rate per month and park the car here. You could leave the keys even if you wanted to allow test drives. Or let's say you fix lawnmowers, however, you don't do enough business to afford a location, and you can't afford to advertise yoru service much, so you'd store and price your fixed lawnmowers here. Lot's of people do stuff like that. They are just spread out all over the place and no one knows them so they head off to Wal-Mart. So, the synergy is in getting people that have different talents, products or services to locate together. Only local people mind you. Small locally owned. only.
Next step is, well, let's say you have a small business like a pawn shop for example, you probably want your own location, but know one knows what you have generally. So, I build a application that allows anyone in the area, to upload their inventory, and location. Now all the stuff at my location will be up there to, but anyone can upload they just have to be local. Now, when you search if none is available through my network, then it will default over to searching on ebay with local search options(commision for me), and if nothing results from their it defaults to the big merchants. So, you'll always find the item, it's just with a huge preference towards the local.
Advantages, promotes reuse, keeps local money local, degrades import spending, promotes individuals desiring to open a business a permanent location for offering a service or product(art, repaired stuff, services, whatever).
Now, the next stage would be, the loaner network, once the above was established to a fair degree. As most people have a pressure washer for example, or a weed wacker, or a chainsaw, or hammerdrill they rarely use. So, you could bring that item here, and I'd rent it for you. You could set the price, and I'd take a credit card deposit, to cover if they completely fucked it up. So, instead of ten houses needing ten pressure washers, I'd rent you one for like 15.00/day, and the actual owner would get 11.00 dollars against the cost of the washer, I'd pocket 4.00. As a person builds good credit(returning the item in good condition), they'd work down the rental costs to like ten because of trust. Or a person could simply apply there Pressure loaning credits to rent a chain saw, or big jack hammer. This would reduce the consumption level and increase useful item availablity.
Difference between current concepts like craigslist, etc... Is the centralized physical Hub location where the local exchanges would take place. Also, the synergy of bringing like minded people together would foster initial trades, and spread the name of the business quickly at zero cost.
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