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Dnomyar -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:02:18 AM)
OP I do agree that nobody here is getting what you are asking. In public wear what you want to wear. We have people here wearing political shirts on casual day. No biggie. It makes for some spirited discussion. I wear an Everybody Loves Raymond shirt . As for wearing it at a polling place. Seeing as that Im running for a public office I bet I could get away with it.

LadyEllen -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:03:19 AM)
Ok - if it were legal - no, it wouldnt influence my choice Mind you, I'm pretty sure its illegal here too - but it didnt stop one local candidate (Bangladeshi) from giving voting instructions to his female accompaniment in the language of their country of origin, in full earshot of the officials - no one could be sure what he said, but since he mentioned his party name in English, it was pretty much concluded he had had them vote for him under his direction. But no one said or did a thing. E

kittinSol -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:06:08 AM)
There's so much advertising and election campaigns are so all over the place, I don't see how one T-shirt can be deemed to be influencing voters' opinion. It's ridiculous, especially with all the crap that's going on. But the (stupid) rules are the (stupid) rules [8\|] . Makes me wonder if all print on a piece of clothing should be prohibited near voting places.

kittinSol -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:09:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Mind you, I'm pretty sure its illegal here too - but it didnt stop one local candidate (Bangladeshi) from giving voting instructions to his female accompaniment in the language of their country of origin, in full earshot of the officials - no one could be sure what he said, but since he mentioned his party name in English, it was pretty much concluded he had had them vote for him under his direction. But no one said or did a thing. LadyE, there are a few "slave owners" on this site who don't balk at instructing their possession how to vote. Effectively, it's one man = multiply the vote by his number of slaves. I think that's cheating, but what can you do?

LadyEllen -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:09:52 AM)
Question - if I wear a T shirt with the message "Shit happens" to a polling station, which side is more likely to complain about undue influence on the electorate? E

kittinSol -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:13:33 AM)
Tell me you don't own such a T-shirt, I beg you.

LadyEllen -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:25:53 AM)
This is a hypothetical KS, I assure you. Or perhaps high pathetical. E

Sanity -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:33:55 AM)
Naaah, there are just some people who you don't want to see naked. God invented clothes for a reason... quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth quote: Why don't we ban all clothing at the polls? this slave will second that...do we have a third????[:)]

Mercnbeth -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 9:34:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Mind you, I'm pretty sure its illegal here too - but it didnt stop one local candidate (Bangladeshi) from giving voting instructions to his female accompaniment in the language of their country of origin, in full earshot of the officials - no one could be sure what he said, but since he mentioned his party name in English, it was pretty much concluded he had had them vote for him under his direction. But no one said or did a thing. LadyE, there are a few "slave owners" on this site who don't balk at instructing their possession how to vote. Effectively, it's one man = multiply the vote by his number of slaves. I think that's cheating, but what can you do? you could think of it as the slave owner is equal to a micro-electoral college. the slaves(US citizens) offer their choice(popular vote), and then the owner(electoral college) decides for who the vote will be cast for the entire household(state or federal district). Our electoral system is set up so that it can ignore the wishes of a general membership(popular vote), whose thinking need not be considered, in the same way an owner can ignore the wishes of the slave(s) and instruct their vote accordingly.

cpK69 -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 10:16:39 AM)
Thank you for the assist, Dnomyar and LadyE. quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Makes me wonder if all print on a piece of clothing should be prohibited near voting places. I was wondering if wearing all red or royal blue would be considered subliminal messaging. Kim

LDRandAstarte -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 11:40:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou It has nothing to do with a "dress code." It isn't about clothing styles. It's has to do with electioneering at a polling place. Now, I'm sure that wasn't the intent of the lady mentioned in the article. But it has nothing to do with her intentions; it has to do with the Pandora's Box that could be opened by allowing things like that. I'll give you some hypothetical examples. Suppose some overzealous group decide to all show up at the polling place to vote in mass. All of them wear clothing with pictures of Obama dressed in a turban, superimposed over a picture of the WTC towers burning. Suppose another group gets the same idea and shows up wearing T-shirts depicting McCain riding a nuclear missle with a cowboy hat on. How about a t-shirt showing Obama taking a shit on the American flag, or one of McCain fucking Uncle Sam in the ass? Do you get it now? Nope, still don't get it! those were all funny but exactly how do any of them effect what I believe and how I am going to vote? It is petty. I'm back quiet.

CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 11:47:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou No it wouldn't, but it's still inappropriate. The t-shirts in question are the same thing as a campaign sign. Do you think I should be able to wear a sandwich board advertising my candidate into the voting booth? Hell yeah. By the time people get to the polls, most of them have made up their minds anyway -- if what I'm wearing can swing someone from their 'chosen' candidate, then they weren't all that committed anyway. Let people come as they are. Why should freedom of speech end at the voting booth. How much more ironic could it be than to be denied the right to vote for expressing one's opinion via clothing, buttons -- and hey, a musical hat might make standing in line a hell of a lot less boring! Jeeze louise, people! I have to say that what someone else wears to the polling place (or what a million people wear to the polling place, even if they all come at once and dance in front of me in g-strings and pasties) isn't going to change the way I vote... I don't even believe in the "no electioneering" crap -- if someone wants to stand outside the polling place and hand out cookies and flyers about his or her candidate, and the people coming to vote are so uninformed that that makes a -difference-? Well crap... just what kind of election are we going to have anyway? Calla Firestorm

BitaTruble -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 11:57:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cpK69 http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081004/D93JNG5G0.html Would this influence your vote? If so, how? Kim No, it wouldn't influence my vote. My vote is too important to me for it to change because of some other viewpoint which I might happen to stumble across at my polling place. I think slaveboy made a very good point about the mass of t-shirts, but that wouldn't influence me either. At most, it would probably garner an eyeroll from me but I would still view it as blatant propaganda which would not effect my vote.

LaTigresse -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 12:13:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cpK69 http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081004/D93JNG5G0.html Would this influence your vote? If so, how? Kim The only thing that has affected my vote is lots of investigation in the candidates.

Steponme73 -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 1:41:33 PM)
It just goes to show the Democrats will do anything to get Obama elected.

LadyEllen -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 1:50:09 PM)
Question - if clothes might influence people to choose a certain candidate at the election, shouldnt women and Afro-Caribbeans be banned from the polling stations this time round, in case their presence is taken as a reminder for one or other of the candidates and so unduly influence electors? E

LaTigresse -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 2:01:03 PM)
Not to mention soccer moms with glasses, and/or bad hairdos.

kittinSol -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 2:03:13 PM)
Don't forget the shrill voices [:(] . I hope whispering is compulsory in the voting booths.

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 3:28:35 PM)
Fast Reply: I understood the OP's question. But I also understood she was trying to make a point. She still doesn't get it. Electioneering at polling places was a common tool to intimidate voters throughout American history. Whether it would affect your personal choice or not is irrelevant. It would intimidate many people to show up at a polling place and see 20 or 30 people inside wearing campaign paraphernalia of the candidate they oppose. You also run the risk of someone making accusations of election tampering. We have secret ballots and election laws for a reason. It's not meant to stifle free speech or scare voters away. The laws are there to protect your right to vote without hindrance or harrassment. Voting should be a dignified, orderly procedure. It's not a wrestling match you show up for to support your favorite character.

cpK69 -> RE: Dress Code (10/6/2008 3:57:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou Fast Reply: I understood the OP's question. But I also understood she was trying to make a point. She still doesn't get it. This response is an awesome example as to why such laws need to be in place. Thanks. Kim

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