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Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 4:21:13 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		What is it that makes it so easy to fall for someone who demands your money in order to worship them?? I see so many requesting it . I would love to hear from all of you about what the attraction is ? Please share your experiences if you would , and what you received out of it?
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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 5:03:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm afraid that would be a hard limit for me, because of the potential for abuse. I would insist on retaining control of my own money.

Master has no interest in my finances, other than I am the one with the credit card and can pay for stuff on the internet. In fact when we eventually marry we will have a "prenup" to the effect that my money is mine and will go to my children if anything happens to me.

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 5:07:17 PM   
LadyJulieAnn


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Status: offline 		I don't believe that most subs "fall for" financial domination. If they know from the start that a Domme requires their money, they are then making an informed decision to hand over their money.

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 5:11:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am not familiar with financial domination or why it even exists except to take advantage of someone. i know i will take some heat on this. i guess there are different levels of this type of domination but i believe if you go out and work, the money should be yours. lets just say been there, done that (without even realizing it at first), and will never go there again.

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 5:19:49 PM   
Sensualips


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Status: offline 		Is it taking advantage of someone if you have a service slave? He/she desires to serve you in whatever way you require, from housework to car detailing to manicures? The expectations are obedience and service, just for the privilege. Nothing more nothing less. What does the slave "get out of it."

I think people have an emotional attachment to money in many ways. For those who do, it is hard to understand how easy it is to give it up.

Or maybe it is not easy. Maybe it is very difficult -- and that is the point.

Of course, in the context of a 24-7 relationship, some may be quite relieved to turn over all their money and not be bothered with financial decsions of any type.

Clearly I am just thinking in font.


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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 5:36:48 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		I was asking becasue i see so many including the terms "pay pigs " ans "money doms " out here. The fact is since so many men judge themselves by the amount of money they have, I can see how a slave or submissive minded person could give of themselves . n older slave with a young hot Mistress or Master . The only way he can get them is through giving up their money....I think we have all heard of this type or relationship?

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 5:51:02 PM   
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I think people have an emotional attachment to money in many ways. For those who do, it is hard to understand how easy it is to give it up.


its not so much that i have an "emotional"attachment to money...it just sure comes in handy when you need to buy groceries, pay bills, etc. also, if you let someone else handle your money, you better make sure they know what they are doing or else you will be the one to suffer with a bad credit rating.

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 6:00:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am a slave whose finances are controlled by my Lord. This was actually something that I found difficult to give up control. I make good money and have always enjoyed spending my money however I wished.

I knew going into the relationship that finances would be controlled by him, but from the character of the man I knew that there would not be abuse. This control is structured so that there is little opportunity for him to take advantage.

My Lord does not have access to any of my bank accounts, credit cards or savings. I create a budget every month and my Lord gives instructions on how I am to spend it. At the end of the month, I complete the worksheet and I am held accountable for what has been spent.

In the beginning I struggled with this control, but my Lord and I have very similar ideas and opinions on how I can spend the money I make. I am given a generous allowance every month to spend however I wish and quite a bit is also put away into savings. I find that the structure has curtailed my “impulse” buying of things that I never really needed or would use.


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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 6:23:29 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		I gather expressions of money are suppose to be a form of giving, of acceptance of another as a superior or a form of trust. My question is why do so many doms put financail servitude on their laundry list of items they enjoy to acting apon?

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 6:27:27 PM   
Sensualips


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Status: offline 		Hmm. Well, I struggle with an emotional attachment to money, and here is what I mean by that.

Growing up, we were low income. Free school lunch low income. My parents were hippies and taught people and ideas were more important than things. However, when I was about eleven years old fell into the same trap many children do. I wanted all the designer clothes and fancy shoes and things the other kids had and felt oh-so deprived when my parents did not provide those. I guess it is sort of that scarcity mentality that was mentioned in another thread. In high school and college I prided myself on being non-materialistic -- but it was more out of neccessity than true ideals.

While married, I lived a relatively financially secure lifestyle. We did not spend extravagantly, sometimes struggled, but certainly had enough to pay our bills and enjoy life from time to time. Our unmentionable were undoubtedly overindulged but it was the norm and not really noticed.

Then I got divorced. My household income was cut by a third. The scarcity mentality kicked in. Because I can't have what I always want or am accustomed to, I feel deprived. Resentful. Even looking for someone to blame. If I am having a rough week, I want to shop. I am emotionally attached to that money, the things it buys, and the security it represents. My basic needs, and those of my unmentionable, are fairly easily met. So why should I get worked up over THINGS I can not have? Or things I can not give my unmentionables -- things that they do not really need?

I have encountered people that give up money easily, without thought. People with more than I and people with less. I am more emotionally attached. Of course, I am also control oriented. I don't relinquish that easily either.

I am rambling. My point is I feel there is more to financial domination than simply scamming someone out of there money, just as there is more to a s/D relationship that beating someone up. That being said, I still exercise my choice not to participate in financial domination as either party.


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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 6:46:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm thinking it is a control thing with me as well. I was married for nearly 24 years and my ex had all the control when it came to money.....I had access to it but he decided what we spent it on Now I have money of my own I like the feeling of security it brings. I still have trouble realising that I can spend what I want and on anything I want - Master helps with that, He's always telling me "If you want it, buy it!"

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 6:50:02 PM   
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My point is I feel there is more to financial domination than simply scamming someone out of there money, just as there is more to a s/D relationship that beating someone up.


i totally understand what you are saying and i think there are certain circumstances which can be beneficial to a sub/slave to have the Dom/Domme advice or teach how to correctly handle their finances. it is another form of teaching and helping a person to grow. i guess what it all boils down to is what is one of the most important factors in this lifestyle...TRUST.
respectfully...lil wolf

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 7:51:18 PM   
Misstoyou


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ORIGINAL: openmindedslave
My question is why do so many doms put financail servitude on their laundry list of items they enjoy to acting apon?


Well, I don't have it listed (go figure), but seriously, you're asking why doms would enjoy using money as a method of control? No, really...seriously?

I think your initial question is far more interesting.

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/5/2005 10:24:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		it taking advantage of someone if you have a service slave? He/she desires to serve you in whatever way you require, from housework to car detailing to manicures? The expectations are obedience and service, just for the privilege. Nothing more nothing less. What does the slave "get out of it."
*******satisfaction that MY service is 150% dedicated.

I think people have an emotional attachment to money in many ways. For those who do, it is hard to understand how easy it is to give it up.

Or maybe it is not easy. Maybe it is very difficult -- and that is the point.

Of course, in the context of a 24-7 relationship, some may be quite relieved to turn over all their money and not be bothered with financial decsions of any type.
*****mine has nothing to do with being relieved. i'd be happier if "I" ran my own money. but SHE has it and that is that.
i do not care either way. what i want to ask is this????
WHY is it any different for me to give my money to a domme than it was for me to turn over my payroll to my 3 wives?
still a woman...and i am still not intimate...what's the difference?
yes------my wives slept in different beds and we didnt do anything.......
but then i couldnt stand my wives either.........

sorry. maybe it's a soapbox? but it is just...a sore spot. someone questioning service slaves...


take care


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Financial Domination-its very real - 12/6/2005 5:40:36 AM   
slavescotty


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Status: offline 		i see nothing wrong with it. Service is service, be it domestic, labor, sexual or financial. Finances are just another resource of the slave, just like his time, creativity and intellect. If he submits to a Domme knowing that She is willing and able to control them all if She chooses, so be it. It seems to me that the Domme has the foremost say into how She wants to be served. If the slave cant handle then he should simply look elsewhere. It is no different than if the slave can't abide being a domestic slave and giving up his precious time to spend cleaning her bathroom, vacuming her carpets and doing her dishes. Maybe She isn't the Domme for him. On the other hand, ithe Domme's control and power over him may be so great that he submits to the domestic slavery even though it isnt his thing.
i believe She is entitled to use Her power and control to enslave a sub to whatever degree that She is able and willing. None of a slaves resources are sacred IMO.

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/6/2005 8:46:31 AM   
liltwisted1


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Status: offline 		To be or not be a financial slave, is a personal choice, as with all aspects of this life. We can try to define and separate our different roles as bottoms yet, most want it all (Tops and bottoms). Try to keep in mind that most of us want to trust until proven wrong but, this slave finds that troubling. Should we not allow trust to be earned, much in the same as common sense is learned?

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/6/2005 9:36:15 AM   
LadyMorgynn


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Status: offline 		Once outside the "vanilla" box, there is no end to the levels or limits. There are all kinds of people with all kinds of interests. Just as there are Dom/Dommes interested in financial slavery, so too there are submissives out there interested giving up that. The important thing is that people say what they want, so they can be found by others with similar interests.

For instance, it took me months to finally put a profile on here, on the basis that I'm not into inflicting pain, and so much of the BDSM is actually pretty heavy on the S&M side. Then one day I realized how silly that was, because there are plenty of submissives out there who are not looking to be punished, but looking to serve. Hey, I should know, I was one myself, back in the days when, not knowing any better, I thought I was submissive. And guess what, I hear from all kinds of submissives interested in what I am offering. Only one (so far) has told me that I was not a "true Domme," and that had nothing to do with whether I was into S&M, but because I didn't instantly agree to sign legal papers taking all his rights and claiming legal ownership. I mean, he wasn't even willing to discuss it, it was, wow, like, "you won't sign right now so you're obviously a fake." Geez. Talk about topping from the bottom!

Anyway, my point is. There's something here for everyone. Just because you don't like it yourself, doesn't make it wrong... it just makes it wrong for YOU. Some other sub may be falling all over himself to provide for his Mistress, and think he'd fallen into clover to find a Mistress who wants that.

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ORIGINAL: openmindedslave

What is it that makes it so easy to fall for someone who demands your money in order to worship them?? I see so many requesting it . I would love to hear from all of you about what the attraction is ? Please share your experiences if you would , and what you received out of it?



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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/6/2005 11:12:36 AM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		Lady Morgynn, I do not disrepect someone who descides to spend his money on his Mistress or Master instead of other things. In fact ,i know one dom in Va who makes it appoint to go to the subs place of employment o n pay day , just to get his pay check. And he finds it humilating and also very exciting to let other see him giving it up to her infront of others. I have also seen one Mistress looking for a car to replace her own.

It really does depend on what the interest of both partys are? Yet i do believe some weaker minded slaves or subs or being controlled into giving their moey up also, because they feels its expected .

The great thing about being expressive out here, is there are so many interest can come out . And the more open you are , and of course honest too, the more likely you will find what you seek inside..

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/6/2005 12:50:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Everyone,
I have been reading the post and many of you have very good valid points on this. I'm a FedDom and have been doing this for quite some time for the past two years I have done nothing else but financial slavery/servitude. I went to this route for various personal/health reasons and for the most part people that know very little about it think that's it's only "abuse" or "taking advantage" of the other person, but that is not the case. The slave has a need that needs to be filled, wether it is spanking, masochism, infantilism and so forth us as doms have the responsibility of satisfying it. Just because this is a more obvious fetish it does not mean that we are not taking care of our slaves and satisfying them they way they like. Financial slavery has been around for a very long time and has been known as one of the most submissive forms of domination. Money makes people feel powerful and successful, when you strip them of that and they allow you to take control the humiliation process that they were looking for is what they have left. Many people fantasize about being poor and losing it all only to start all over. I as a dom take measures to satisfy their wants and my needs. There's a line that I don't cross: I will/would never allow any of my slaves to take from their legal responsabilities (wife, children, pets, medical attention etc.) to satisfy their own fetishes and give to me. I have turned many of them down because of this. If you can't satisfy your fetish with your own income, without taking from someone else, stealing, depriving your children and other responsabilities, then you don't deserve to have fetish.
ViXie

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RE: Financial Domination? - 12/6/2005 1:15:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think I may have been unclear. I was making a comparison, not questioning the validity of service slaves. When I read the thread-after-thread discussing financial domination, it strikedme that service slaves seems much more accpetbale and it is not as questioned. I was asking what some felt the differences were. As another poster pointed out, both are resources.

Though I must admit, I feel quite awkward when a person offers to perform services for me and I provide "nothing" in return. It is difficult for me to accept. I either feel guilty or suspicious. That is my own personality flaw, as I seldom have the desire to provide service just for the satisfaction alone.

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