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serisa -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/12/2008 10:31:19 AM)

ok, ok,  i have learnt something today from you... that a collar isnt supposed to mean anything? !, are you sure? or at least to some people they do not it appears.

i dont see why 'current slave' somehow lowers their commitment (whatever it may be)... so he has had one or more before?... what can be read into that?, some people in this world have been married several times.

yes, we would need the op to come back in order to clarify that

however, i was presuming he had her best interests at heart or why did he bother to start the thread of he doesnt give a toss about her and their relationship?

i NEVER ONCE said other people are not allowed to have different opinions than my own.  You are quite right on this and that means that you are welcome to criticise mine... and i too yours, so as far as i can see i dont understand whats wrong with saying i think they are harsh



NuevaVida -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/12/2008 10:51:02 AM)


I'd like to take a stab at answering this...just because...

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ORIGINAL: serisa

ok, ok,  i have learnt something today from you... that a collar isnt supposed to mean anything? !, are you sure? or at least to some people they do not it appears.


This is absolutely true, btw. To some, the significance of the collar and all it symbolizes is sacred and intense. To others, it's a piece of jewelry and nothing more. And then there's everything in between. There is no right or wrong answer. People place different values on different objects, no matter the object.

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i dont see why 'current slave' somehow lowers their commitment (whatever it may be)... so he has had one or more before?... what can be read into that?, some people in this world have been married several times.


This is a great example of what I wrote above. I would not like to be referred to as "current wife" or "current slave", as it seems to place less meaning on my place in his life. It would make me feel interchangeable. And yet, others, such as yourself, have no issue with that wording. Again, there is no right or wrong answer here. Diverse opinions are a good thing.


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however, i was presuming he had her best interests at heart or why did he bother to start the thread of he doesnt give a toss about her and their relationship?

I assumed this, too, and answered accordingly. Others did not feel the same. Like you, I cringed at some of the replies here, but whatcha gonna do? It goes back to the notion that people are different.




CalifChick -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/12/2008 11:03:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: serisa

ok, ok,  i have learnt something today from you... that a collar isnt supposed to mean anything? !, are you sure? or at least to some people they do not it appears.

i dont see why 'current slave' somehow lowers their commitment (whatever it may be)... so he has had one or more before?... what can be read into that?, some people in this world have been married several times.


Are you deliberately misconstruing my words and my meaning?  You said "the collar (if she has one) is supposed to be as meaningful as a wedding ring" and I was disagreeing that it is SUPPOSED to be any certain thing.  It can certainly mean that to some people, but not to others.

I don't know if you've ever been married, and if that would make a difference, but if anyone referred to me as their current wife, or their first wife (when I was still their wife), that would imply that they don't plan on keeping me.  Seriously, "I'm planning on being away for a few weeks, what do I do with my current wife?" - you see nothing wrong with that?  Okay, whatever.


Cali



serisa -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/12/2008 2:26:55 PM)


Are you deliberately misconstruing my words and my meaning?  You said "the collar (if she has one) is supposed to be as meaningful as a wedding ring" and I was disagreeing that it is SUPPOSED to be any certain thing.  It can certainly mean that to some people, but not to others.
perhaps i did miscontrue your meaning, although not deliberately so for that i apologise.  However, i DID come to the right conclusion.... i said i had learnt something and what i meant was that was that i was wrong in what i first wrote ('is supposed to be as meaningful as a wedding ring')... it does to some and not to others.  you just didnt like the way i wrote it

I don't know if you've ever been married, and if that would make a difference
yes, was married for seven years... i dont think anyone goes into marriage (or another type of commitment such a collar, IF that is what it means to them) with the intention of it failing.  2nd or even third time marriages or committted M's can be just as deep to the persons involved.... thats all i meant really.  i dont know if You have heard Masters/Dominants write (as i have read several times) 'I hope my next slave will be my last' ?.

, but if anyone referred to me as their current wife, or their first wife (when I was still their wife), that would imply that they don't plan on keeping me.  Seriously, "I'm planning on being away for a few weeks, what do I do with my current wife?" - you see nothing wrong with that?  Okay, whatever.
i do see what you are saying here but i am not sure if the op intended it to come accross like this... only He can answer that.  However, lots of people are not that good at expressing things in a manner that other people wont take the wrong way (happens all the time on here ! !).  perhaps i am wrong, but i just didnt take it this way though.  i felt he was being genuine and this was just His 'way of talking'.  Lots of Men (Dominant, vanilla or otherwise) just dont talk with any 'depth'... you have to learn not to be offended by the way they talk and not take it at face value or sometimes it can be easy to jump to the wrong conclusions about the way they come accross




CalifChick -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/12/2008 2:39:17 PM)

Thank you serisa, for your response.  I do appreciate your point of view. 


Cali



serisa -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/12/2008 2:48:45 PM)

just been reading your journal entries, i reckon you and i could get together to share some vicious comments about our ex's and their bad behaviour (i sympathise with you on this one having been through a crazy time with my own).  anyway, had better not... thats another story & i shouldnt hijack the thread !
 
best wishes



HouseDom -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 6:16:50 AM)

Thanks to all who took my question seriously.  I read your comments with interest and will take them to heart. 

Thanks, also, to all who found my question disturbing or ridiculous.  Your comments were mostly hilarious.

My apologies for disappearing so quickly post-posting.  Technical difficulties on the road and further difficulties with the IT department prevented my return.




CalifChick -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 6:55:20 AM)

Well, THAT sure cleared up the confusion.  [8|]


Cali



HouseDom -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 11:29:05 AM)

Some of the vagueness was intentional to get the most varied answers--some, of course, was not.

I have a slave and have had her for just under a year.  Things are not going well since I started to travel.  My use of "current" was not meant to be so crass, but does indicate possible replacement.  We have enjoyed a strong vanilla life as well and may well end up replacing each other in that context; the rest, of course, will probably just follow naturally.  she has a strong urge to serve and I'm simply not around enough to give her the opportunity. 

When I asked how long you can leave one alone, I clearly didn't mean in a personal survival context.  Those who really took it that way are, I suspect, being purposefully daft in order to have something to say.  

Thanks for your comments...




apiercedkitty -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 12:21:05 PM)

Kind of hard to glean too many serious responses when your initial question held so little useful information, no? It's not like your profile was any help - as it would appear you're STILL looking for a slave. People would need to know what the "trouble" was to start giving advice on what you might need to do to correct it.



HouseDom -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 3:55:39 PM)

My apologies, if I accidentally post this in the "Dear Abby" section.  I got exactly the responses I was looking for and then some.  I'm sorry if you feel cheated out of the details. 



dangerousangel -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 5:32:25 PM)

OP- I don't think it's that we felt like we need a prurient glance into your life. At least, I didn't. I simply felt that there wasn't enough information in the post to be able to contribute intelligently.

Leave a slave alone how? Why? Leave him/her alone in bondage? Leave him/her alone without input in an online relationship? Leave him/her alone with a task?  In what kind of realtionship are you talking about?

I guess I wasn't sure how it to answer. My original thougth was that I would be very very sad to be left alone for long periods, without getting to see my Owner. We spend the vast majority of our time together, and it would kill me to be appart from him for that long, not because I couldn't function, but because I would -miss- him. That said, were it a work situation that caused us to be appart, or one that we couldn't overcome, we'd get by throught LOTS of e-mail, phone calls, and chats. I'd -need- to see him at least every few weeks. Not want, desperatly need. I'd not be able to be without him longer than that without having serious repercusions. But, agian, we're also very emotionally intwined.

I was curious as to the emotional relationship between your property and yourself, because that changes the way I'd answer the question.



apiercedkitty -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 5:57:40 PM)

Try not to read more emotion into a response than what's really there, k?



CalifChick -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 7:47:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HouseDom
My apologies, if I accidentally post this in the "Dear Abby" section.



Oh, then you are all sorts of "lost".  Here is the CollarMe "Dear Abby" section: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1693546/mpage_97/tm.htm 



Cali



Noah -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/13/2008 11:55:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HouseDom
How long can you leave a slave alone?


Are we talking properly wrapped and refrigerated or just carelessly left on the kitchen table?





akisha -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/14/2008 1:24:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: serisa

you missed my point... what i meant was i can not blame you for not knowing any better.  if everyone knew the cut and dry and answer (should there be a definite answer) to everything on this planet there would be no point to half the questions posted on the message boards.

<snip>


If you spend any time reading the boards, you would notice that there is no point to about  half the questions posted on here.

Some questions are great, people seeking genuine advice, or people sharing something of interest. But there are alot of BS posts and alot of really "are you freaking serious??" posts.

And there are ALOT of repeatative posts.



simpleplan2 -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/14/2008 1:52:58 PM)

serisa, I'm not sure why you're obsessed with my answers however, I actually know quite a bit [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m16.gif[/image]  I read the OP's profile.  It sounded to me like he wanted a slave who was completely dependent upon him for just about everything...down to getting written permission for doctor's appointments.  Now he says that he has to leave her alone.  Sorry, but it doesn't sound like he has her best interests at heart to me.  It sounds like he has someone who is so dependent upon him that she cannot function without him.  Now he needs someone who CAN function without him. 

There is no "cut and dried" answer to a question like this.  And I agree with Akisha that many of the questions on the boards don't have a point.  What gives me the right?  LOL!  Internet access and a membership...the same thing that gives you the right to post your snarky comments to me.

And, in my opinion a kind, thoughtful and caring dominant would make sure that his slave could function alone if she must be left alone.



masterofdrkness2 -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/14/2008 5:14:42 PM)

if you feel you can not leave her alone while you work ... then there seams to a bigger problem  awaiting you soon .



serisa -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/14/2008 6:06:43 PM)

how often have i replied to you?... i am not obsessed with your answers, the bulk of my chat has been between Cali and myself



SCVTrainer -> RE: How long can you leave a slave alone? (10/17/2008 3:58:32 AM)

ROFL...you too funny



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