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call me disobedient - 12/6/2005 11:56:20 PM

mineva1slave

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greetings Aall,,girl would just like to ask ,,,,, when it comes to online D/s,, M/s etc...the question of wether a girl is an obedient slave or not if girl does not get nekkid on cam,,i am meaning if the Master/ Mistress is not ours...is it acceptable to decline,, for in reality if subs/slaves do so, it gives them a lil dignity due to all the players and fakes there are,,Real life subs/slaves need to be able to protect themselves from these leeches, if a Master/Mistress really wishes to meet this sub/slave,,then it should be ok for us to hold onto the final precious gift we can give,,thank Yyou for listenin to girls worries,,
Be Well aall

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 1:58:44 AM

Focus50

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Hi disobedient, welcome to the Forums....

As an adult woman, it's entirely up to you! I'm guessing from your post that you have limited lifestyle experience but enough common-sense to question what's being asked of you - and so you should!

I'm a believer that D/s works best with r/l eye contact, which mostly implies with someone you really do know and trust. I'd advise against anyone going out of their comfort zone for the sake or amusement of *ANY* online "dom" or "master" they've never met or not in a relationship with. Even with web cams, you still don't know what sort of pervert you're really dealing with. And unfortunately, BDSM is the place where too many keyboard wankers come to get their jollies off, esp if they can find a trusting and eager-to-please fem/sub who doesn't know any better.

Save your real self (physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually) for the one you deem deserves it and don't ever get sucked into that online bullshit - with or without web cams! Anyone who's genuine enough will wanna go to the next step and meet. Sure, some might still push you online but it's also possible they're checking to see how far they can push....

And for those who get pissed at you for declining, and no doubt accuse you of not being submissive etc, just tell 'em to take a long walk off a short pier or whatever your preferred send off is because they only wanna use you! Don't take your clothes off for any geek just because they call themselves a dom!

Like your pic btw, you really don't look over 90! lol

Focus.

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 2:41:42 AM

thndershadow

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Hello

I don't cam with anyone, UNLESS, I want to get something out of it. It seems you have the common sense to not do as you are told from anyone online.
I am a female sub and I get tons of offers to view cams and asked to be viewed. I do not do anything different or expect anything less than I would if I were dating a vanilla man. Even though he says he is Dom, don't believe it. Let him prove himself over time. If he is real, he will want a safe meeting to get to know you as a person and ask you questions as a sub. Don't fall into that trap of having to put out OR prove your submissiveness on the first meet either. Be yourself and your submissive self will show.
As a sub, I feel, you have just as many rights if not more than the Dom when it comes to meeting and greeting. After all, he cannot be a Dom without a sub to give her gift of submission to. So please be careful when playing on the web and save that special gift for that Dom that you meet in RT that wants to get to know you and please you!

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 2:47:45 AM

sweetpettjenny

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Everything is your choice, until you decide otherwise or a collar is placed on your neck by a r/t Dominant.

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ORIGINAL: mineva1slave

greetings Aall,,girl would just like to ask ,,,,, when it comes to online D/s,, M/s etc...the question of wether a girl is an obedient slave or not if girl does not get nekkid on cam,,i am meaning if the Master/ Mistress is not ours...is it acceptable to decline,, for in reality if subs/slaves do so, it gives them a lil dignity due to all the players and fakes there are,,Real life subs/slaves need to be able to protect themselves from these leeches, if a Master/Mistress really wishes to meet this sub/slave,,then it should be ok for us to hold onto the final precious gift we can give,,thank Yyou for listenin to girls worries,,
Be Well aall

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 3:37:37 AM

Slaveless1

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I personally would never ask for such a thing online unless said girl was mine. There are those out here who are looking for a cheap thrill. your thought patterns are well founded and you should hold back. Even girl has rights and should be treated with dignity.

< Message edited by Slaveless1 -- 12/7/2005 3:39:32 AM >

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 4:24:24 AM

Onknees5858

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I am a guy but the problem is similar. When I am chatting, if I am asked to show or do something on cam I ask my Mistress before accepting, so even at distance she control the situation. She often tell me "open your cam but if he/she ask for more tell me".

If your master is not available the choice is yours of course.

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 5:48:59 AM

fyreredsub

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i personally would tell said person where they could go if they weren't my owner,trainer, sir..whatever..i will NEVER cam for some o/l wanker wannabe
i have r/t, now if they were to order that may be a diff story but the relatiosnhip is already established.

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ORIGINAL: mineva1slave

greetings Aall,,girl would just like to ask ,,,,, when it comes to online D/s,, M/s etc...the question of wether a girl is an obedient slave or not if girl does not get nekkid on cam,,i am meaning if the Master/ Mistress is not ours...is it acceptable to decline,, for in reality if subs/slaves do so, it gives them a lil dignity due to all the players and fakes there are,,Real life subs/slaves need to be able to protect themselves from these leeches, if a Master/Mistress really wishes to meet this sub/slave,,then it should be ok for us to hold onto the final precious gift we can give,,thank Yyou for listenin to girls worries,,
Be Well aall

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 6:16:33 AM

IrishMist

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Yep, in total agreement with the others.

No cam sessions

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 6:18:38 AM

LuckyAlbatross

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Unless you have agreed to obey or be under anothers authority, you are free to do whatever you like as a normal human.

This however will not stop everyone and their brother from trying to make you doubt yourself so they can get what they want.

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 6:44:11 AM

fastlane

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I think you answered your own question and your answer is correct.

What does she win Fastlane?

She is the winner of her dignity, integrity and the gift of wisdom, but that's not all....she will also win an expense paid trip to the private dungeon of her choice when she does find her true Master and decides to get nekked for the first time!

I'm the one under Moderation here.....why am I soooooo bad?

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 10:29:15 AM

Kinkypupper

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I tend to agree with your comment
There are too many leaches and users and in "my" opinion if you do it with someone without first hving some kind of relationship or bonding it just feels wrong.
in r/l lifestyle however you should have no such restrictions

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 4:31:23 PM

Delvin

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If the Master is not yours, then you can be respectful and decline if that is your feelings on any matter. If you are not owned, then you have more freedoms and rights and can say no without jeapordizing your beliefs. Again, respectfully declining is fine and is part of your search to find someone who understand that you are not required to step and fetch for anyone willing to call themselves Master.

Being obedient to your Master and being obedient to just anyone are two completely different beasts.

D

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 4:59:06 PM

Wolf1020

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you have the right to refuse anything you don't want to do. Esspecialy online. Esspecialy if the guy telling you to do it isn't your dominant.

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 5:28:28 PM

Cloudz

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As has already been stated here, you are owned only by you until you decide to change that. You will meet some excellent people on here, and some fools. You have already shown that you have a good head on your shoulders...keep wise counsel.

Good luck and welcome

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 7:35:41 PM

LilWhiteWolf

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quote:

if a Master/Mistress really wishes to meet this sub/slave,,then it should be ok for us to hold onto the final precious gift we can give,,

very well put !!! i totally agree with you. too many think that if you are a sub, you should be submissive to anyone that says " I AM DOM" . be true to yourself, take your time and do what is best for you. anything good is worth waiting for. if they can't be patient and take the time to get to know you, then they aren't worth your time.
be well and be safe

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 8:09:31 PM

mineva1slave

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girl thank Aall for Ttheir time to reply...it is most helpful to read comments from all sides,,once again,,much appreciated..huggs and be well

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/7/2005 8:40:51 PM

amayos

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I would say NO CAM FOR YOU!

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/10/2005 7:12:40 AM

tigress31047

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hi mineva1salve
first off : welcome to the boards
I am a pervert(lol) no doubt about it . and Master loves it
i often play on cm in chat room with His direction. and sometimes without.
i alove watching couples on cam and also enjoy a good C*** show too ..
I guess i'm lucky . Master allows me to do what ever i wish on cam because He knows who i go home to at night.
By all means though if you are uncomfortable don't do it ..at the end of the day you have to be true to yourself not a bunch of horny wankers on the net.

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/10/2005 11:19:47 AM

slavejali

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Saying "no" to anyone who is not your Master is not being disobedient whatever the issue is.

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RE: call me disobedient - 12/10/2005 4:06:17 PM

OsideGirl

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Do you really need us to answer this for you?

Would you ever allow a stranger to make demands on you in vanilla life?

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