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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/13/2005 12:57:47 PM   
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Is it to be assumed that the person answering these questions will be hooked up to a lie detector, or will the process continue with the potential sub, or submissive "dom" paying for the cost of a private investigator and background check? A questionnaire is a good way to weed out fake doms and dommes. Anyone agreeing to complete one as a condition of meeting should be removed from consideration.

Ah the life of a "true submissive". Taken care of by a rich healthy benefactor, with good credit, without any life history of financial or personal problems; who'll spank you're butt, (not too hard to make a mark), while screwing (whoops pardon "making love") you with the lights out. Afterward he provides aftercare. Running to the kitchen for a fresh glass of wine, stopping at the bathroom to bring to her a warm washcloth to wash off the disgusting remnants of his lovemaking, then running back to take a shower before being allowed to come back to bed. Waking up, he kisses the true submissives forehead, careful not to wake her. He dresses in the dark, rushes to the airport to meet with clients so he can keep his "true sub" comfortable in the manner she has become accustomed.



Anyone who thinks this....... has been watching wayyyyyyyyyyy to much TV... and reading wayyyyyyyyy to many Romance Novels

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/13/2005 3:06:12 PM   
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veronica that was to cute. I laughed so hard that I lost all thoughts as I was wiping tears from My eyes. It is wonderful to see that some ppl are able to find a humorous side to a usually serios topic. ty for the wonderful laugh

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/13/2005 5:15:56 PM   
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heres one do you have any intrests out side of the life style

my ex was like the life style is every thing

my answer to my own question is that i like to play Tactical games like paint ball and airsoft

i enjoy shooting sports

i want to get into making props

i like comming up with new dishes

i go to pagan gatherings

and thats just a few

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/13/2005 9:19:27 PM   
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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 1:27:08 AM   
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please tell me and i hope this is true but do i have the worng person here> mhooo314 i was sent a letter by this person and i find it to be so bback.

it state who do we intergrad out teens in to this lifestlye this does not sound healthy for the teen unless you meant it in a different way anyone reading it would think you meant for them to be in this lifestyle as in someone who is joining in is this true????????? i am shocked please explain this i am not beyond reporting this explain this to me many may laugh or even get mad at me but this is something i fought for childern for many years this is not for any teen or child i may have misread it please let me knoiw

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 2:10:24 AM   
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I'm curious about how you propose to keep 18, 19, 20 year olds or anyone else from doing whatever they choose to be doing. In the US, they're adults, free to pursue their own choices. Personally, I think it makes more sense to welcome them and educate them than it does to ostracise them.
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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 2:57:18 AM   
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alandra is probably going to tell me this is one of my 'foot in mouth moments' *g* but here goes *ss*

Q--Do you know how to make a bed with square corners and the Marine coin toss?
Yes I do

Can you clean a toilet? Unfortunatly yes

Can you separate My clothes so My whites aren't pink? I usually do that

Have you done litter pans? I have four indoor cats, so It's a constant *ss*

Have you ever been a secretary? No, terrible at the whole 'office attire' thing

What are your organization skills? Very good at multi tasking when I try

Have you worked in a vegetable garden? Yes I have one on the acreage

What is your current diet like? I have a 2-f rule. No fish no fungus

Do you have allergies?

just one med
Do you know your way around a grocery store, and not looking for cigarettes? I usually get the groceries

Do you currently have any debt or bad debts? nope


What if any is your spiritual orientation? bent around the edges Agnostic


denika



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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 10:26:32 AM   
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i was wondering what you meant byt intergrading teens into this lifestlye ?????????????????????????/what in world were you thinking of ??????????/letter date 12/11/05 ton my aol explain your thinking or did iread it wrong

mons title of letter (intergradion of minor) by mhoo31

mons



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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 10:55:18 AM   
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quote:

Is it to be assumed that the person answering these questions will be hooked up to a lie detector, or will the process continue with the potential sub, or submissive "dom" paying for the cost of a private investigator and background check? A questionnaire is a good way to weed out fake doms and dommes. Anyone agreeing to complete one as a condition of meeting should be removed from consideration.

Ah the life of a "true submissive". Taken care of by a rich healthy benefactor, with good credit, without any life history of financial or personal problems; who'll spank you're butt, (not too hard to make a mark), while screwing (whoops pardon "making love") you with the lights out. Afterward he provides aftercare. Running to the kitchen for a fresh glass of wine, stopping at the bathroom to bring to her a warm washcloth to wash off the disgusting remnants of his lovemaking, then running back to take a shower before being allowed to come back to bed. Waking up, he kisses the true submissives forehead, careful not to wake her. He dresses in the dark, rushes to the airport to meet with clients so he can keep his "true sub" comfortable in the manner she has become accustomed.

MercnBeth



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Anyone who thinks this....... has been watching wayyyyyyyyyyy to much TV... and reading wayyyyyyyyy to many Romance Novels

truesub4u


No one said the Dom "keeps the sub comfortable in the manner she has become accustomed (to)". The submissive who does not have her own income, from work or elsewise, and allows herself to stay out of the workforce for a significant period, will find re-entry to a position paying enough to support her and any little ones she has very difficult.

i cannot pass judgment on anyone's choices, but i sometimes wonder, when a Dom or Master or Domme asks a submissive or slave to remain at home, unemployed, doing the housekeeping, whether They have taken into consideration that the submissive's or slave's marketability in the work force will atrophy as he/she remains unemployed.

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 11:01:20 AM   
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quote:

please tell me and i hope this is true but do i have the worng person here> mhooo314 i was sent a letter by this person and i find it to be so bback.

it state who do we intergrad out teens in to this lifestlye this does not sound healthy for the teen unless you meant it in a different way anyone reading it would think you meant for them to be in this lifestyle as in someone who is joining in is this true????????? i am shocked please explain this i am not beyond reporting this explain this to me many may laugh or even get mad at me but this is something i fought for childern for many years this is not for any teen or child i may have misread it please let me knoiw

mons


^Once again, states that IMO, email is private and should not be a subject for discussion on the boards. There is a button to push on all emails if something you receive is threatening, etc. There is no need/reason to bring an email to the boards IMO apart from the desire to bring disgrace to a member.^

candystripper

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 11:08:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlderTheKitty

heres one do you have any intrests out side of the life style

my ex was like the life style is every thing

my answer to my own question is that i like to play Tactical games like paint ball and airsoft

i enjoy shooting sports

i want to get into making props

i like comming up with new dishes

i go to pagan gatherings

and thats just a few


Fishing, Camping

Playing pool

Darts

Reading

Writing

Bowl Full of Popcorn, a good movie, loved ones camped out on the floor, settling in for a great night of fun......... Priceless

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 12:37:01 PM   
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The submissive who does not have her own income, from work or elsewise, and allows herself to stay out of the workforce for a significant period, will find re-entry to a position paying enough to support her and any little ones she has very difficult.

i cannot pass judgment on anyone's choices, but i sometimes wonder, when a Dom or Master or Domme asks a submissive or slave to remain at home, unemployed, doing the housekeeping, whether They have taken into consideration that the submissive's or slave's marketability in the work force will atrophy as he/she remains unemployed.


Is your argument that you have to plan for the relationship failure?

I look at resumes regularly, a break in service is common for reasons ranging from raising children to a change in the status of the other spouse's employment. A break in employment doesn't disqualify the applicant.

Now if a person shows up on someones doorstep with their luggage after an "intense" 2 week internet "relationship" then failure should be expected. All the consequences of the decision made on both sides MUST be discussed. For the more pragmatic I guess consideration of the appearance of a break in service on their resume is important. It all depends on your priorities. My job is NOT more important than beth, hers was not more important than the relationship we contemplated. In my judgment most relationship fail because they don't have their priorities properly ordered. Of all the long list of considerations between beth and I her resume never came up. One of beth's major attributes is her confidence, and if for any reason she had to return to the workforce she would have no difficulty. But more important, our plans are for success.

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/14/2005 12:50:11 PM   
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it's not what you've done in the past it's how you presnt it to an employer

if you said i was a stay at home wife yada yada it's not gonna look good

but if you say i was in a realtionship where i was complettly responce able for taking care of the home i learned from that time management and self realyablity as well as to be responceable you'll look much better

on the fact that i used to be on allot of groups on VF which are run by those underage i know that no matter what you can't stop people from finding out about the life style

also if your teenage walks in on you whipping your partner or finds one of your toys they'll figure it out quite fast.

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/15/2005 2:39:51 AM   
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hello mhoo31

i want to say how sorry i am i read a letter you wroteabout chidern , you also wrote how to intergrad teens in the lifedtyle now i understood what you meant and boy i am silly i wrote how i will report things like that i see you meant what do you tell them about what is doing on in the bdsm lifestlye , this iswhat i did my son is 25 now when he was 24 i told him in the easyway that i like to be dominant over men he knew what i meant and he understod but did not wan to here anymore. now teen are just way to young for that type of talk way to young even if you feel you neeed to tell them. thendo not have the mind set yet to hold this in it is to much to hang in their brains they are worrying about boys or girls and have no ideal and this is true what really goes on. you see they may read about this as i did when i was younger and idid not understand what and whythis was happening. just as gays know what they are this is a littel different. the mast slave submissive thing is not really something they can handle my son was 24 and he was like yuck so think how a teen would handle this it will be to much for them so you need to wait to let them know and you do not need to tell them al of it is makes no sense. and if the teen is very young it can be almost abuse and if they are not into this as 24 year old there is no save way to tell them this just wait and it is not intergrading them into it that sounds strange my son is not intergrading in this at all

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/15/2005 4:27:44 AM   
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I understand the intent of purpose of the list hun, but there are some questions on here I would never answer from a prospective submissive. Not only that, if I got this list from a submissive I'd likely pass on her. Reason being, some of the questions sound a bit like a gold digger. I'll explain in my remarks below.

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

One of my girlfriends and i put together a list of questions to send to Doms and Masters who contacted us. i have lost the orginial but here is a reasonable facsimile, in part, based on my memory:

1. Do You have a JOB? What is it? What income bracket are You in? How long have You had this job/worked for this employer?

Yes I have a job, I'm a decorative painter primarily. I also do home improvement and general maintenance (though I've mostly phased out of the general maintenance except for a few friends and family). What I won't answer are my income bracket or how much money I make. The bills are paid, I live a middle class lifestyle and I can afford to go out every now an then. When as woman asks for more specific financial information than that, I start to wonder at her motives. The fact that I'm willing to take her out to eat, pick up the bill, where I take her, etc. ought to say plenty about my financial status.

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2. Who lives with You? If You are living in Your parents' home, please explain why.

Fair question. I'm staying at my parents temporarily while arranging to relocate to another state. I also own half their house, so technically its also my house. While here I've been working on improving the property so they can sell it at a profit in about a year and buy a smaller place which will leave them a nest egg in the bank. In short, I'm doing what I can to take care of my parents while improving my own situation at the same time.

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3. Are You behind on Your child support? How much is the arreage?

Never been married and no kids, but I can understand asking this. Nobody wants a deadbeat. I'd ask a submissive the same thing if they have kids.

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4. Is there a warrant out for Your arrest?

Nope... never been caught

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5. What is Your criminal history? If You pled out, what was the original charge?

Don't have one, and you can't prove it Seriously, I can understand the questions but I see two problems with it. Unless you have enough info to run a criminal background check then you won't really know. And even if someone does have a criminal record that doesn't mean they're a bad person. I don't have a criminal record... however I did run with the Hell's Angels for six years and there is no record of that anywhere. Most people who know me think I'm a pretty good person anyway. I knew a lot of people back then who did have criminal records... long ones... and some of those people were my best friends, people I literally trusted with my life. Criminal records will only tell you a little about a person, but if you don't take the time to get to know them, enough to judge their character, then you aren't really being fair.

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6. Has anyone ever taken a restraining order out against You?

Nope

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7. Are You in this country legally?

Yup... and two other countries too! Do I get bonus points for that? And then there are all those russian, romanian, phillipino, etc. slave girls I see from time to time and you just gotta ask, "do you have a valid VISA?"

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8. What is Your credit score?

Another question I won't answer. Its just not the sort of thing I am going to tell a date or a submissive. Get to know me well enough you can probably guess at it. But other than that, its not something people need to know about me.

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9. Please outline Your plans for retirement, including Your finanacial plans.

I have plans, but its not something I will discuss because again, that starts hinting at my actual financial worth and I don't care to discuss that. Plus, to be honest it starts sounding like the relationship is more about number crunching than personal attraction. This is the problem with it, it leaves a dom wondering if the lass is interested in me or my bank account. Don't need any Anna Nicole's in my life, ya know.

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10. What is Your target date for retirement?

Age 45, which is in 7 years. I have a plan to get there. Until someone gets to know me real well, that's all they need to know.

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11. Do You plan to relocate after You retire? Where?

Already relocating in the Spring, wouldn't mind moving back to Ireland one day but that may never happen.

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12. Have You ever had a relationship with a submissive or slave in real life? Why did it end? Have You ever been 24/7 with a woman? Why did it end?

Yes. She died. You'll pardon me if I don't care to discuss it further. Its a good question to ask though, especially if you prefer someone with experience. But to be fair, there are plenty of people with no experience who will do fine. A lass who has never had such a relationship is not going to be written off by me just because she has no experience, though it is nice to know so I have an idea what I will be dealing with.

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13. If divorced, what is the county in which Your decree was handed down and the case number of Your divorce action?

I suppose that's so you can look it up. You might want to wait a bit before asking these kinds of questions, get to know the person a little first. Otherwise is starts sounding like you're investigating them, which in fact, you are. But you don't want to come across that away... unless you're trying to put a dominant or submissive off.

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14. Does Your income exceed Your outgo? By how much? Do You save in any way? How?

Yes... but again, I won't really answer much about financial questions beyond the following. My bills are paid, I've never paid a bill late in my life, I am not in debt, and I'm picking up the check. Until someone gets to know me real well, that's all they need to know or will know. If they can't deal with that... next.


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However, the list above gives You a taste of what we were trying to do: weed out the criminals, the financially irresponsible; the inexperienced; the abusive men, etc. If a Man were to answer such a questionaire honestly, it would really jump-start a relationship. However, IMO, no such thing is possible; the information must be elicited in convos and You must trust Your instincts. IMO, You must verify factoids He has provided before meeting Him in real life.

i've never used a list; i think it's a bit impersonal and most Doms and Masters would be put off. However, i do try to extract some of this information before i go to Yahoo IM with a Man. A significant number of Men wash out at the email stage for the reasons stated above, in the questionaire, or because it's clear they want a cyber-buddy.

I don't like these kinds of lists either, and you said it yourself, they seem impersonal. For the submissives considering using them, ask yourself this first... how would you react if a dom hit you with such a list right at the beginning? Most submissives I've met would be turned off by it, same thing happens with most dominants. Its not that there aren't good questions in these kinds of lists, its that it seems very impersonal and mechanical... like a "paint by numbers" relationship that lacks emotional content or personal interest. In some ways it can be just as offensive as men being only interested in women with a certain bra size, or women who are only interested in men of a certain cock size... it seems superficial.

However, that's not to say such lists aren't good as suggestions of the kinds of things you ought to find out over time. Even some of the financial information. The trick is not to ask directly, but to learn through observation. Like I said, the kind of resteraunts I would take a lass too, and the fact that I would pick up the check and that I tip generously says something about my financial situation and my character. The fact that my bills are paid, no debt collectors or creditors calling 10 times a day, etc. says something too. These are things you can learn about someone over time. Same thing about them being abusive... watch their behavior, their attitude, how well they control their anger, etc... it says a lot about a persons character. Everyone gets angry, not everyone flies into a rage because someone took their parking space. We all get mad at another person from time to time... not everyone resorts to threats of violence or violence over a spilled drink.

Dominants should ask some of these questions too. Frankly I don't care to take on a submissive who is up to her eyeballs in debt. I had one gal I was talking to who wouldn't answer her phone. Turns out she had creditors calling constantly and wouldn't answer because she was afraid it was them. I stopped calling. I never directly asked what her financial situation was, but just by listening and getting to know her, it came out on its own. But even with debt, you have to stop and ask some questions there too. Where did the debt come from? Someone who got hit with unexpected medical bills can easily be wiped out, even if they were very responsible financially... it happens. Someone may have debt but already be working on their own to get out of debt, that says something about their character too. If submissives write off any potential dominant who has debt, I think they're unnecessarily limiting their choices. On the other hand, I have no debt so... hey, more for me!


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ORIGINAL: candystripper

i cannot pass judgment on anyone's choices, but i sometimes wonder, when a Dom or Master or Domme asks a submissive or slave to remain at home, unemployed, doing the housekeeping, whether They have taken into consideration that the submissive's or slave's marketability in the work force will atrophy as he/she remains unemployed.

You an I have talked about that and you know better than most what my plans are in that regard. The main point is not whether she keeps her job or not, but whether some thought and planning has been done. As long as there's a roof over your head, food on the table, the bills are paid and some money in the bank, that's doing pretty good (better than many in fact). The one thing I don't plan on is the relationship failing. I do plan for things like something happening to me, medical emergencies, etc. and you know about that as well.

Call me a bit old fashioned but I'm more concerned with how well we get along, whether we can have a conversation, do we have common interests, etc. If that stuff isn't there then the rest just doesn't matter to me. If there isn't a personal connection I could care less what her finances are or her criminal record might be. I think that's another reason why such lists early in getting to know someone are such a turn off.

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/15/2005 5:48:30 AM   
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I agree that sending someone a list of questions before the first date is overwhelming and not very productive.

HOWEVER, questions like these should be answered over time, even if never directly asked. Before committing to someone, they should be able to easily answer these questions for themselves AND the other person. In short, they should learn the character of the person.

And if the relationship is going through difficulties, a clear list like this can really help someone sort priorities and see things more clearly.

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/15/2005 6:49:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Padriag
Call me a bit old fashioned but I'm more concerned with how well we get along, whether we can have a conversation, do we have common interests, etc. If that stuff isn't there then the rest just doesn't matter to me. If there isn't a personal connection I could care less what her finances are or her criminal record might be.


Good answer. That some should focus on such questions and then wonder at their remaining single is clearly the workings of "instant karma." Implicit in these questions is the notion of the man as "meal ticket" or "savior." What a lot of crap...

Let's talk about dating...

I might go on a single date with a woman. To do so I do not need the answers to those questions. If I glove up, I can probably even have sex with her without asking too many questions and the risk is still minimal (esp. for me as a man). The same circumstances that can exist for one night can be extended to many months as long as nothing is serious, the risk remains about the same. So just to date and hang out, I don't really need a credit report or background check. In fact, that anyone could even suggest one at such a preliminary stage is hilarious to me. I do actually expect to taste the milk long before even thinking about buying the cow.

Let's talk about buying the cow...

We all have baggage. What I am finding interesting at my age is how unimportant most of the things revealed on a credit report or a background check tend to be. If someone is dishonest or a substance abuser, I'm going to find that out right away - and that's long before I even consider buying the cow. Now maybe it's a bull thing only, but I have never given even the remotest consideration to how much a cow earned before. If she can cover for herself, that's all I need to know. Unless joint ownership of property or children are under consideration, I would go so far as to suggest that my own ability to earn is no one's business but my own. Those are standard of living questions really, and in the main I find the quality of life for most cattle to be quite appalling - they seem to live for the sake of consumption, instead of consuming as is required to live. That's not life, that's being a culture of zombie-cattle with dollar signs before our eyes. If I were seeking a 24/7 cow and maid service the question of finances is obviously more relevant. From a relationship standpoint I find a cow's other existing relationships a more penetrating issue. How many calves does the cow have? Are the cow's parents tedious? How about those cow friends - are they going to be a thorn in one's side or what? Are there lots of other bulls hanging around expectantly for some reason? Inquiring minds want to know...

In general I just stick to the basics: social and sexual compatibility, proof of generally good mental and physical health. The rest is just the game we call modern life, and there's lots of ways to play that. I find that the Wheel of Fortune spins around and around - sometimes you're up and sometimes you're down.

The important thing is to keep good company.


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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/15/2005 7:11:25 PM   
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What a wonderful thread. i keep a "list of sorts, with questions that help jar my memory when i'm stuck, or not getting any feedback from the dom when i write. my basic idea here, is that after asking a few diffent times and ways, if my questions are still ignored, then i'm history. i'm willing to work hard to have a good, lasting relationship, but am not willing to mind for coal..

cheers,
jimini

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RE: Ever think about these questions? - 12/15/2005 9:37:30 PM   
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in a teenie tiny little bit..i find this all kind of semi amusing.
a list of questions???????

maybe from some domme somewhere.....but not from me.

all you are gonna get out of me is;
can you as a domme cope with a domestics service slave that is 100% platonic, not into s/m, not into sex, and not interested in bonding with you?

if i get a yes..
i go to step 2

when do you want me to pull into your driveway?

easy and clean........

the rest is history......i have been here now since july........

take care


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drugs sex and rock n roll,...drugs are good and so is the rock n roll, sex is over rated"
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