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Kondratiev wave - 10/10/2008 6:11:35 AM

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Nikolai Kondratiev, a Russian Marxist economist brough to the attention of the world in 1925 that every 50-60 years capitalism goes bust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondratiev_wave

So I guess we should have expected what is happening now.

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RE: Kondratiev wave - 10/10/2008 6:16:45 AM

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Interesting. wonder what variation will say lol.
But in alot of ways it makes sense to me.

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RE: Kondratiev wave - 10/10/2008 9:04:03 AM

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Don't need to read it, it is a natural function of the system. Actually it has been pondered that it is a ploy to make the rich richer, as they have the means to speculate on currency. They simply destroy the economy by stealing so much, put their assets into something unaffected by the currency they helped to destroy and start the process again, with the general population starting with a bit less, and the rich starting out with a bit more.

Another theory on the subject is that mathematically, when the disparity between the income of the rich and poor hits a certain ratio, revolution is certain. We have surpassed that ratio but two factors keep it from happening in the US.

Weapons. They have weapons that will blow your mind (literally). They have so many things they refuse to use because they don't want people to be aware of their existence it is not funny, but even those unaware of those weapons knows of the military might of the US know not to start anything in light of just what is known.

Even more powerful of a weapon is their strict control of the major media. Never in the history of the world has so much real news been suppressed and replaced with fluff. I mean not even in the early days of Nazi Germany. I mean not even in the USSR. The difference is in how the control is applied.

You see, the people who really run the country have no reason to seek public office. Except through licensing, the government has little control over the media, but the multi-national moguls who are gaining even more power because of Micheal Powell, have had it for a while. The government can trust them, because they are part of the big money folks who run the government.

So everything can collapse and they can take their euros wherever they want, and come back when they are good and ready. They appear as saviours or something, investing in the shambles.

It is really not all that complicated.

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RE: Kondratiev wave - 10/10/2008 9:19:23 AM

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You never can trust the rich. They are all about the money. They keep it, you give it. It is the capitalist way! Now understand I am all for the system...damn sure beats socialism

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RE: Kondratiev wave - 10/10/2008 9:30:24 AM

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You never can trust the rich. They are all about the money. They keep it, you give it. It is the capitalist way! Now understand I am all for the system...damn sure beats socialism

America like all developed economies is a mixed economy, it has elements of socialism in it and the reason it does is because laisez faire capitalism leads to revolution. The argument is about the balance between socialism and capitalism. America prefers the balance to be more capitalist, as does Britain. Most western European countries prefer the balance more towards socialism. Are they poorer for it? No, evidence suggests ordinary people are better off with the balance more towards the socialist end because they all have world class education and health systems and don't have to worry about being screwed over by insurance companies overcharging and then denying access to treatment.

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