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The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/11/2008 2:29:23 PM   
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The incumbent Administration has distinguished itself for the ages. The Presidency of George W. Bush is the worst since Reconstruction, so there is no mystery about why the Republican Party—which has held dominion over the executive branch of the federal government for the past eight years and the legislative branch for most of that time—has little desire to defend its record, domestic or foreign. The only speaker at the Convention in St. Paul who uttered more than a sentence or two in support of the President was his wife, Laura. Meanwhile, the nominee, John McCain, played the part of a vaudeville illusionist, asking to be regarded as an apostle of change after years of embracing the essentials of the Bush agenda with ever-increasing ardor.

The Republican disaster begins at home. Even before taking into account whatever fantastically expensive plan eventually emerges to help rescue the financial system from Wall Street’s long-running pyramid schemes, the economic and fiscal picture is bleak. During the Bush Administration, the national debt, now approaching ten trillion dollars, has nearly doubled. Next year’s federal budget is projected to run a half-trillion-dollar deficit, a precipitous fall from the seven-hundred-billion-dollar surplus that was projected when Bill Clinton left office. Private-sector job creation has been a sixth of what it was under President Clinton. Five million people have fallen into poverty. The number of Americans without health insurance has grown by seven million, while average premiums have nearly doubled. Meanwhile, the principal domestic achievement of the Bush Administration has been to shift the relative burden of taxation from the rich to the rest. For the top one per cent of us, the Bush tax cuts are worth, on average, about a thousand dollars a week; for the bottom fifth, about a dollar and a half. The unfairness will only increase if the painful, yet necessary, effort to rescue the credit markets ends up preventing the rescue of our health-care system, our environment, and our physical, educational, and industrial infrastructure.

At the same time, a hundred and fifty thousand American troops are in Iraq and thirty-three thousand are in Afghanistan. There is still disagreement about the wisdom of overthrowing Saddam Hussein and his horrific regime, but there is no longer the slightest doubt that the Bush Administration manipulated, bullied, and lied the American public into this war and then mismanaged its prosecution in nearly every aspect. The direct costs, besides an expenditure of more than six hundred billion dollars, have included the loss of more than four thousand Americans, the wounding of thirty thousand, the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqis, and the displacement of four and a half million men, women, and children. Only now, after American forces have been fighting for a year longer than they did in the Second World War, is there a glimmer of hope that the conflict in Iraq has entered a stage of fragile stability.

The indirect costs, both of the war in particular and of the Administration’s unilateralist approach to foreign policy in general, have also been immense. The torture of prisoners, authorized at the highest level, has been an ethical and a public-diplomacy catastrophe. At a moment when the global environment, the global economy, and global stability all demand a transition to new sources of energy, the United States has been a global retrograde, wasteful in its consumption and heedless in its policy. Strategically and morally, the Bush Administration has squandered the American capacity to counter the example and the swagger of its rivals. China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and other illiberal states have concluded, each in its own way, that democratic principles and human rights need not be components of a stable, prosperous future. At recent meetings of the United Nations, emboldened despots like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran came to town sneering at our predicament and hailing the “end of the American era.”
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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/11/2008 2:35:37 PM   
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I have often wondered what the history books will state about the last 8 years of this Administration's policies and wars. 

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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/11/2008 2:39:15 PM   
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I suppose it depends on which history you read (the right wing increasingly inhabits its own little ideological world somewhere down Alice's rabbit hole), but I expect anyone remotely objective will judge this administration quite harshly.

The trouble is, it's largely too late to worry about this now... where has the outrage been all this time? Where was it 4 years ago?

At present, all we can do is try to decide who will be best at cleaning up the mess.

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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/11/2008 3:54:44 PM   
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Yes, short term damage control, long term explaing to the coming generations what happened and how and why. 

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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/12/2008 8:53:57 PM   
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I think if anyone is judged harshly by history, it will be the people of the US, during this time period. Seriously, we stood there, picking our noses and scratching our asses, and we let these assholes do this to us. And we voted him in for TWO fucking terms!

Where was the impeachment? Where were the riots in the streets when Bush began to systematically take our civil rights away? Where was the rage as hebeas corpus was gutted, and the US became a torture state?

We were too busy with Paris Hilton, American Idol, and shit like NASCAR.

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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/12/2008 9:57:39 PM   
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I am SHOCKED..that this type of negative article on the Bush administration would appear in the "New Yorker".....SHOCKED!  SHOCKED!!
 
Lets see...the worst since "reconstruction"....how did that go, by the way?

Andrew Johnson...oh..he was a "winner"...the guy that "scorned" Republican polices at the time aimed
at securing rights for the newly emancipated slaves...Bush baddddd...

The following might be of interest....unfortunately, or fortunately, at the time the good prof did this report, Jimmy Carter had not yet been elected...

"Credit, or blame, for the first scholarly ranking of the presidents usually goes to Harvard historian Arthur Schlesinger Sr., who conducted a poll for Life magazine in 1948. He asked 55 specialists in American history to rate the presidents as great, near great, average, below average, or failure. Claiming the cellar of that list were Warren G. Harding and, in ascending order, Ulysses S. Grant, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Calvin Coolidge, John Tyler, Benjamin Harrison, and Herbert Hoover." 

Not a defense of George Bush who I would also agree has made mistakes...but the worst since "reconstruction" might ring a bell on the West Side of Manhattan..but the country has had a lot worse.  Just trying to keep the record straight, even for the New Yorker.

P.S.  Prof. Schlesinger's survey did not include the third FDR term for obvious reasons. After two strong adminstrations, it was in the third term in which a very sick President, who probably was suffering greatly and not in complete control of his faculties, gave half of Europe at Potsdam to Stalin who took advantage of FDR.  The President died of his illiness within a few months time and justifies the reason for total medical transparancy for every President.  By the way...Harry Truman was thought of as a bumbling idiot haberdsher from Missouri by many in his own party....but history has now shown him to be visionary.  I wonder.......nahhhh   ....well, maybe....nahhhhhh

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070218/26presidents.htm
 
 
 

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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/13/2008 2:38:12 AM   
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Its hard for you to take on the substance of what was said, tho, isn't it?

It really all began under Reagan, when the US went from the world's largest creditor nation to the world's largest debtor nation. I would say pretty much everything we see today, ties into that phenomenon and a blind faith in free markets and consumer culture.

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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/13/2008 3:57:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bipolarber

I think if anyone is judged harshly by history, it will be the people of the US, during this time period. Seriously, we stood there, picking our noses and scratching our asses, and we let these assholes do this to us. And we voted him in for TWO fucking terms!

Where was the impeachment? Where were the riots in the streets when Bush began to systematically take our civil rights away? Where was the rage as hebeas corpus was gutted, and the US became a torture state?

We were too busy with Paris Hilton, American Idol, and shit like NASCAR.


I've been talking about, and pointing out, the bad points of this fellow since before he took office. Once in office it became even easier to do this. The list is longer than need be gone into here and many of you are already aware of such.

I'm not affiliated with either major party. I see them as being largely the same. They both typically talk about the same issues, and make the same or similar claims in regard to them, but we still end with the same problems. Its almost as if they have "ex parte" meetings to discuss how they're going to distract us from the real, larger and mostly unadressed issues that we share.

For years I've been talking about our monetary system and the dangers of having a debt based fiat currency system in the control of a private corporation. Essentially no one listened, or seemed to care. We have a pretty serious economic situation now that would likely not have occurred had the people retained control of the creation of money and the issuance of credit.

If Obama wins the current election the degree to which our two major parties are basically the same party will be clearly demonstrated in the lack of restoration of our civil rights, and the office of "President" giving back many of the powers the current adminstration has seized and usurped. How much of the USA PATRIOT Act, or what is commonly referred to as "Patriot 2," will be overturned? My prediction is next to none.

Do you have ideas how we might "wake up the electorate" or the citizens and lure them away from their petty interests and distractions?

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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/13/2008 4:07:02 AM   
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Well, if I had to identify Bush's core problem, its a convergence of religious fundamentalism with political dogma.

I think this description of Palin from Salon is transferable to BUSH in the White House:

Still, Palin is a genuine Alaskan — of a kind. The kind that flowed north in the wake of the ’70s oil boom, Bible Belt politics and attitudes under arm, and transformed this state from a free-thinking, independent bastion of genuine libertarianism and individuality into a reactionary fundamentalist enclave with dollar signs in its eyes and an all-for-me mentality.

Palin’s Alaska is embodied in Wasilla, a blue-collar, sharp-elbowed town of burgeoning big box stores, suburban subdivisions, evangelical pocket churches and car dealerships morphing across the landscape, outward from Anchorage, the state’s urban epicenter. She has lived in Wasilla practically all her life, and even now resides there, the first Alaska executive to eschew the white-pillared mansion in Juneau, down on the Southeast Panhandle.


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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/13/2008 5:17:28 AM   
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Its hard for you to take on the substance of what was said, tho, isn't it?

It really all began under Reagan, when the US went from the world's largest creditor nation to the world's largest debtor nation. I would say pretty much everything we see today, ties into that phenomenon and a blind faith in free markets and consumer culture.


This piece could have been dictated to the New Yorker by the Obama campaign or the DNC.  It begins saying the Bush Administration "distinguished itself for all the ages....as the worst administration since reconstruction"..and I am supposed to look for "constructive language" in the body of the text with the author's agenda glaring at me with twisted lips and teeth showing!   Sorry..I think that sent me a message about the "substance" of what was going to be belched from the writer.  The article itself will have little affect in changing the minds of people reading the New Yorker since I would guess Obama is way out in front of McCain among the "elites" that read it...I must say that I have enjoyed the cartoons for years...

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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/13/2008 5:41:10 AM   
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with bush we were sold a pig in a poke.

he said he was humble.  then went on to put into action the most arrogant US policy of our history.   he thought just because we are the US, the world will bow to our every whim.  he failed to factor blow back in..

Now kids, he might have had good intentions, but he sold us on non-nation building, being humble, and I quote,  "all knowledge does not exist with in Washington DC".

his talk sounded good early on.  but that has been the walk.



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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/13/2008 6:41:06 AM   
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Bush said he wanted the run the US like it was a corperation... which was great. But everyone seemed to ignore the fact that he had run every business, that Poppy Bush had put into his hands, right into the dirt. Mission accomplished, I guess.


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RE: The New Yorker on the Bush Administration - 10/13/2008 6:42:30 AM   
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with bush we were sold a pig in a poke.


You got a poke?  You dawg.

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