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Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:17:11 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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Status: offline 		I've noticed that a few times now that while playing with Sir I have started to want to fight back and came very close.  This might be cause I have pushed myself too far or we might have hit into the fight or flight mode.  I've talked with a couple friends and they seem to agree that, thats very likely and maybe we should take small breaks during floggings/spankings.  I'm sure I'm not the only one thats had this reaction before.  I guess my question is what did you do to over come this?  Was there something you noticed that set you off to fight back?  I'm thinking that when I start to sob its time to cool down a bit..maybe thats when I've pushed myself too far. I love Sir a great deal and it upsets me a little I'm acting like this. I've never reacted this way before with other partners, but then again I've not really scened with partners that did long floggings/spankings.  I know it worries him as well and yes we have talked and came up with an idea to try to help me not reaction this way.

Any advice is very much welcomed and thanked!
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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:27:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		well, it could be overstimulation, that's a possibility.  maybe you need to work on tolerance.  as you said, this is the first time you are dealing with this.  i'd suggest working  on your tolerance, maybe setting a limit as to how many more swatsyou can expect after you start sobbing. do you safeword when you can't tolerate it any more and so on.  knowing what you can expect can sometimes make it easier to push yourself a little more than you thought you could.  best of luck.
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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:29:16 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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Status: offline 		We had talked about only doing 10-15mins of beating before cooling down a little. I do safeword after I just cant take anymore, but by then I've really pushed myself. I'm silly and just hate using my safeword...but I will if it comes down to it.

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:32:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes use the safeword.... I know it goes against your grain, but do it!

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:36:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sandyshores29718

I've noticed that a few times now that while playing with Sir I have started to want to fight back and came very close.  This might be cause I have pushed myself too far or we might have hit into the fight or flight mode.  I've talked with a couple friends and they seem to agree that, thats very likely and maybe we should take small breaks during floggings/spankings.  I'm sure I'm not the only one thats had this reaction before.  I guess my question is what did you do to over come this?  Was there something you noticed that set you off to fight back?  I'm thinking that when I start to sob its time to cool down a bit..maybe thats when I've pushed myself too far. I love Sir a great deal and it upsets me a little I'm acting like this. I've never reacted this way before with other partners, but then again I've not really scened with partners that did long floggings/spankings.  I know it worries him as well and yes we have talked and came up with an idea to try to help me not reaction this way.

Any advice is very much welcomed and thanked!


I've never experienced this, so I don't have much to add.  But from what you've said, maybe it's just a matter of an adrenelin rush from the extended flogging and spanking.  Maybe take some breaks in between,  or try the floggings for a shorter period of time and see if it still happens. 

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:39:09 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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Status: offline 		*nods* Thank you. Thats what Sir and I are thinking and maybe having some juice neaer by.  Cause of this I had a small sub drop that lasted a day.  *sigh* Not fun for Sir and I at all.

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:43:54 PM   
girlivy


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Status: offline 		For some the struggle and "fighting back" is fun to do. I know for myself I LOVE to struggle, and Sir likes it as well.  I used to feel that i was not "being a good bottom" until Sir and I discussed it and the bottom line was to enjoy and have fun , and be yourself.  As long as a level of respect is maintained.   There have been times when I am instructed NOT to move, and I do my best to honor the command.   Have you discussed this over with your Sir?  I have also noticed that as far as tolerances go, mine greatly vary on many factors.
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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:49:11 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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Status: offline 		We havent talked about me fighting back...but the last time the one where I had a small sub drop after was not fun for me. I was done playing, BUT I made myself keep going cause I wanted him to have fun till he was done.  There are some days where I can handle more than others though.

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 6:57:28 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Some people go primal during pain play and do fight back. Nothing wrong with this as long as both of you are prepared it will happen when he goes too far. Have you asked him if he's okay with this happening? Because some guys just flat out love this.

I know mine would but it isn't something I'm wired for. I don't fight or run, I freeze.
Hell I can't even wrestle with him for fun.

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 7:02:21 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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Status: offline 		I havent asked him...maybe its something we need to talk about. I just dont know if he would love me calling him a bastard. I did say "Fuck you that hurts" the last time and I felt bad about it....

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 7:02:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sandyshores29718

I've noticed that a few times now that while playing with Sir I have started to want to fight back and came very close.  This might be cause I have pushed myself too far or we might have hit into the fight or flight mode.  I've talked with a couple friends and they seem to agree that, thats very likely and maybe we should take small breaks during floggings/spankings.  I'm sure I'm not the only one thats had this reaction before.  I guess my question is what did you do to over come this?  Was there something you noticed that set you off to fight back?  I'm thinking that when I start to sob its time to cool down a bit..maybe thats when I've pushed myself too far. I love Sir a great deal and it upsets me a little I'm acting like this. I've never reacted this way before with other partners, but then again I've not really scened with partners that did long floggings/spankings.  I know it worries him as well and yes we have talked and came up with an idea to try to help me not reaction this way.

Any advice is very much welcomed and thanked!


For me, certain types of pain will piss me off enough to want to smack the hell out of whoever is inflicting it.  Specifically, anything that causes a thud-like pain to be concentrated in one spot and especially if it happens repeatedly within a short period of time will do that to me.  All it does is make me extremely angry and when I get like that, all bets are off.  At that point, I WILL retaliate, consequences be damned. Whatever submissive mindset I may have been in before that goes right out the window. 

If you're going to push yourself past the point where you want to fight back, taking breaks is probably the best thing you can do in order to keep yourself from acting on those impulses. 


 
 

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 7:06:51 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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quote:

ORIGINAL: servantheart

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sandyshores29718

I've noticed that a few times now that while playing with Sir I have started to want to fight back and came very close.  This might be cause I have pushed myself too far or we might have hit into the fight or flight mode.  I've talked with a couple friends and they seem to agree that, thats very likely and maybe we should take small breaks during floggings/spankings.  I'm sure I'm not the only one thats had this reaction before.  I guess my question is what did you do to over come this?  Was there something you noticed that set you off to fight back?  I'm thinking that when I start to sob its time to cool down a bit..maybe thats when I've pushed myself too far. I love Sir a great deal and it upsets me a little I'm acting like this. I've never reacted this way before with other partners, but then again I've not really scened with partners that did long floggings/spankings.  I know it worries him as well and yes we have talked and came up with an idea to try to help me not reaction this way.

Any advice is very much welcomed and thanked!


For me, certain types of pain will piss me off enough to want to smack the hell out of whoever is inflicting it.  Specifically, anything that causes a thud-like pain to be concentrated in one spot and especially if it happens repeatedly within a short period of time will do that to me.  All it does is make me extremely angry and when I get like that, all bets are off.  At that point, I WILL retaliate, consequences be damned. Whatever submissive mindset I may have been in before that goes right out the window. 

If you're going to push yourself past the point where you want to fight back, taking breaks is probably the best thing you can do in order to keep yourself from acting on those impulses. 


 
 


I have noticed when he hits his favorite spot over and over and over it starts to make me mad. lol I've even said a couple times that I have TWO cheeks not one. lol hmm.....Thanks!

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 7:09:38 PM   
bkftl


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Status: offline 		Heheh, fighting is fun, I wouldnt worry about it, just have your dom/domme be ready for it, dont just sucker punch em...

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 7:11:37 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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Status: offline 		Haha! No never sucker punch Sir. The first time he used the belt on me he ended up sitting on my legs while I was laying face down. I got up on my knees and was about to swing. Later Sir told me he was ready for the fight. lol

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 7:27:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I was prepared. LOL sucker punch? As long as it isnt my patented drop to the knees and a punch to the nutsack trick..Im ok with a sucker punch!

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 8:49:42 PM   
celticlord2112


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Status: offline 		People react differently to different stimuli. For example, my slave reacts to the "thudding" pain of a riding crop with anger, but flinches when I use a cowhide or deerskin flogger. A paddle makes her uneasy, but a spanking with my bare hand always puts her in a good headspace.

If certain toys put you in a bad headspace, suggest to Sir that he use different toys. At the very least, you both should recognize which toys have good and bad effects on you. Then Sir can moderate his actions accordingly to make the overall scene positive for both of you.

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 8:52:14 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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Status: offline 		Thank you for the advice.  I think next time we play together we both shall have to be on the watch to see which toys I react badly too. Thank you again for the great advice.

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 10:15:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does he communicate with you, talk to you, when you start to want to fight back?  In the past, I have slipped into fight mode when I felt disconnected from someone I'm playing with, and it seemed to involve them being very silent.


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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 10:32:54 PM   
mbes


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ORIGINAL: servantheart
For me, certain types of pain will piss me off enough to want to smack the hell out of whoever is inflicting it. Specifically, anything that causes a thud-like pain to be concentrated in one spot and especially if it happens repeatedly within a short period of time will do that to me. All it does is make me extremely angry and when I get like that, all bets are off. At that point, I WILL retaliate, consequences be damned. Whatever submissive mindset I may have been in before that goes right out the window.

If you're going to push yourself past the point where you want to fight back, taking breaks is probably the best thing you can do in order to keep yourself from acting on those impulses.

Oh, that is so me! It's not the thud-pain, but there is one that causes the "fuck this, I'm fighting" response. It's possible to get past it, it just takes working up to it slowly, but yeah, when it happens, mine does know it.
Talk, and more talk. That's all I can say.

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RE: Fighting back? - 10/11/2008 10:39:06 PM   
Sandyshores29718


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Does he communicate with you, talk to you, when you start to want to fight back?  In the past, I have slipped into fight mode when I felt disconnected from someone I'm playing with, and it seemed to involve them being very silent.


Cali



He does, but looking back that might have been part of the reason. When he really gets into it he doesnt talk as much to me anymore.

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