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thornhappy -> White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 12:36:47 PM)

Looks like they're majorly tweaking the original plan.

thornhappy




Raechard -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 1:29:34 PM)

The only advantage of owning a stake in banks is to be able to force them to lend to one another, if the US government doesn't use it's stake in those banks to do that it may as well have stuck with the first plan and given the money to the banks for nothing in return.




Musicmystery -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 1:34:15 PM)

It already doesn't work, as the Fed is discussing loaning directly to corporations.




Lorr47 -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 2:21:52 PM)

"Two weeks after persuading Congress to let it spend $700 billion to buy distressed securities tied to mortgages, the Bush administration has put that idea aside in favor of a new approach that would have the government inject capital directly into the nation’s banks — in effect, partially nationalizing the industry. As recently as Sept. 23, senior officials had publicly derided proposals by Democrats to have the government take ownership stakes in banks. The Treasury Department’s surprising turnaround on the issue of buying stock in banks, which has now become its primary focus, has raised questions about whether the administration squandered valuable time in trying to sell Congress on a plan that officials had failed to think through in advance. It has also raised questions about whether the administration’s deep philosophical aversion to government ownership in private companies hindered its ability to look at all options for stabilizing the markets.Some experts also contend that Treasury’s decision last month to not use taxpayer money to save Lehman Brothers worsened the panic that quickly metastasized into an international crisis. " New York Times

Now, let's see.  When this mess started Warren Buffet and Mort Zuckerman started loaning billions for a 10% return secured by preferred stock.  (eq to Goldman Sacks)  As the government mental midgets played with themselves, many suggested that the government merely xerox the instruments used by Buffet and Zuckerman and use the xeroxes  as templates for loans to others.  But no, the government was too busy trying to find a way to pay top dollar for worthless derivatives and make sure taxpayer's money was unsecured with no return in sight.  Now, the fog has lifted and we are back at square one?  If it was good enough for Buffet and Zuckerman, why pray tell  wasn't it good enough for the taxpayers about a month ago.




Lorr47 -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 2:28:04 PM)

At least some are asking why Paulson did not bail out Lehman when he bailed out others.  Could it be because Paulson had been a big wig at Goldman Sacks and Lehman was the competition.




Musicmystery -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 2:31:12 PM)

*Gasps*




DarkSteven -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 3:38:56 PM)

Am I the only one who thinks that the Bush Administration has no clue whatsoever what it's doing?




Musicmystery -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 3:42:17 PM)

According to the favorability ratings anyway, MOST Americans think that.

[perhaps you're missing the irony]




pahunkboy -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 3:51:32 PM)

remember- congress too has elections November.   I plan to NOT vote for any that supported it.




DarkSteven -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 3:53:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

remember- congress too has elections November.   I plan to NOT vote for any that supported it.


Agreed.  Be sure to write them and let them know why you're voting against them. 




rexrgisformidoni -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 6:01:34 PM)

If anyone was running against my representatives, I would vote for the other guy in a heart beat.




bluepanda -> RE: White House Overhauling Rescue Plan (10/12/2008 6:27:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Am I the only one who thinks that the Bush Administration has no clue whatsoever what it's doing?


I'd be willing to wager there are probably one or two other people somewhere who have at least considered the possibility.




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