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raney -> what would you do? (12/8/2005 9:37:17 AM)

i am not sure what to do. not sure i should even be posting this.

last night, while reviewing our cell phone bill, i ran across an area where you can see all calls that are made from each phone. i was curious to see who made more calls, me or Him. when i looked at His call log, i was a little concerned. there was a number on His log, that was pretty consistent. a number i didnt recognize. it was called quite often right after my number. after thinking about it for awhile, i decided to look at His phone. i know i know, i should have NEVER done that, but i did. anyway, the number, belongs to an ex g/f of His. so i woke Him up, and asked Him whose number it was. He said He didnt know, then looked through His phone. when He came across it, He started laughing, saying it was just so and so's number. there was another womans number in His phone that the number was secret. He said He accidentally put her number as secret when He was messing around with His phone, and He cant figure out how to unlock it. that she is the daughter of one of His former teachers. very believable. but, He would not give me a reason as to why He was talking to this other girl so much, and why He called her so much after just hanging up with me. when i looked through His phone, i only looked at the address book, didnt read any of His text messages etc. just looked to see who that number belonged to. now, this girl has messaged Him at 1 am while He's been over here. He's been sleeping, i never looked at His phone. when i asked Him if the situation was reversed, and it was an ex of mine that i was talking to at least 4 times a week, if not more, that wouldnt He think something was going on? His reply to me, was, who i call and talk to is my business, just like it is His business.

i dont want to believe that He is cheating on me, but it is looking that way. just from the whole phone thing, and little things here and there. like, He says His mom is always complaining about not spending time with Him, but His free time is split between me and His parents at about 60/40. my thought would be, if she really wanted us to work on our relationship, she would not be complaining about how much time He is spending with me. if He and i were living together, she would see Him maybe once a week, not everyday. so that just doesnt quite add up. there are nights that He doesnt stay here, saying He already told His mom that He was sleeping in His bed that night. that is fine, but He is a grown man, and doesnt have to answer to His mother. no, i have not talked to her about this yet. i want to know if this stuff is actually coming from her or not. a friend told me to call the number and ask if there is anything going on between her and Master. i know if i do that though, and there really is nothing going on between her and Him, that that is it for us.

i guess what my question is,

what would you do if you were in the same situation? would you take His word and believe Him, or would you still be suspicious? i promised Him last night that i would not look at His call log anymore. i told Him i believed Him, which last night i did, but after talking to a friend today, i have some doubts. please help me to try to figure this out. and please dont tell me to leave Him right now, if i do find out that He is in fact cheating, i will leave Him, but right now, all i have is a phone number. for my own peace of mind, i have to be sure one way or the other.

thank you
stephanie




DesertRat -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 10:12:34 AM)

I would guess you're being taken for a ride. Maybe willingly. He can't sleep with you because he promised HIS MOM he'd be home? Was he, in fact, home? If I were his mom, I'd want my kid to be working things out with his wife, not sleeping in his old bed. I suspect he's out with an ex, setting up his Plan B.

I wouldn't take his word for it. I would check things out for myself. If the realtionship didn't survive, then that would show me how weak it was anyway.

Bob




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 10:16:54 AM)

Taking someone at their word or being suspicious is useless to you both.

You are doubting him. You had reason to doubt him before now, whether it was rational or irrational.

You both need to sit down and have a serious talk or three about trust issues. What exactly are you worried about? What steps could you both take to show confidence and solidarity?

Whether it's an affair or a mother, you've got a partner who is putting others in priority to your relationship and it's causing issues. You need to discuss the issues and decide whether those priorities can change or not.

As a PS- why aren't you going over to spend time with him at his mothers at least half the time?




knees2you -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 10:21:51 AM)

Tell Him You are leaving.
Look at His Expressions and body movemets.
You will know then.

I've gone down that road before.
When I said I was leaving
There was no concern, or why are You leaving?

So I left.[:D]


"If the
quote:

Pain
has stopped, it doesn't mean She has left the room."



Sincerely, Ant[;)]




Mercnbeth -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 10:49:59 AM)

quote:

if i do find out that He is in fact cheating, i will leave Him, but right now, all i have is a phone number. for my own peace of mind, i have to be sure one way or the other.


you have more than a phone number. you have doubt, insecurity and unrealistic expectations. if this slave were you, she would sit down with Master and have an extensive discussion about where the relationship is headed. this slave would also apologize for snooping and jumping to conclusions, (it's a respect thing).

quote:

when i asked Him if the situation was reversed, and it was an ex of mine that i was talking to at least 4 times a week, if not more, that wouldnt He think something was going on? His reply to me, was, who i call and talk to is my business, just like it is His business.


if you wanted an relationship where, if one reversed the rule the same outcome is expected why are you in arelationship with a D/s dynamic? the rules that apply to this slave are a different set than the ones that apply to Master. Honesty is something we decided in the beginning to be decent enough human beings to each other to be honest with each other or it wasn't going to be the long-lasting relationship we both wanted....but this slave has no authority or "control" over Master--he talks to who He wishes, when He wishes, for as long as He wishes and this slave does not question it as it is HIS business. so for this slave, it is a non-issue. However, if this slave felt Master needed to make an excuse for this slave as to why He couldn't sleep in our bed, then this slave would begin to feel as if she is on the wrong side of the slash.




veronicaofML -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 12:19:49 PM)

THIS is why i do not get involved with anyone......

no trauma and no drama




MHOO314 -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 12:45:29 PM)

there is no easy answer here , but look in your head, that's where you will find it--




gentlesurrender -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 2:19:23 PM)

hi raney

im sorry to hear of your dilemma

the trouble is the doubt eats you up, and the fact that you are looking at the phone bills and his phone is probably not sitting with you right either. Its one of those things you have to find the strength within you to look at whats happening and recognise what its doing to you and then it needs confronting.

i started monitoring the phone messages and its not pleasant to realise the words were not from platonic friends, but i hated myself for looking. the relief when i finished things was enormous, no more doubt, no more insecurities, what you dont realise at the time is how your own confidence takes a nose dive, the feelings of being inadequate enough etc etc.

i hope you sort things out soon raney and that its the best way for you.




gretchen -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 2:45:38 PM)

Well...

The big issue here is the broken trust. You won't find relief in his own words, untill you actualy see it with your eyes, or untill you find out the truth about this 'ex' of him by your self (not really recomendable, it hurts like a b*tch. I rather be ignorant about it or ask him). If he tries to get your trust back by just giving you very poor answers (before or after you sit down and talk about it), it will be a waste of mental effort, because what you need from him at this point is actions from his part (like, staying with you the night he was supposed to go to his 'mom's'). If his actions don't match his words... you know what to do.




MissHarlet -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 3:09:49 PM)

if it looks like a rat ... talks like a rat ... acts like a rat .... or lies like a rat ... it probably is a rat ............




fyreredsub -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 3:24:41 PM)

lol, there is no other name
quote:

ORIGINAL: MissHarlet

if it looks like a rat ... talks like a rat ... acts like a rat .... or lies like a rat ... it probably is a rat ............





sub4hire -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 3:33:16 PM)

quote:

what would you do if you were in the same situation? would you take His word and believe Him, or would you still be suspicious? i promised Him last night that i would not look at His call log anymore. i told Him i believed Him, which last night i did, but after talking to a friend today, i have some doubts. please help me to try to figure this out. and please dont tell me to leave Him right now, if i do find out that He is in fact cheating, i will leave Him, but right now, all i have is a phone number. for my own peace of mind, i have to be sure one way or the other.


It sounds like you gave him a license to continue cheating on you. You already know you don't want to leave him. So, the only thing now to do is set yourself up for the broken heart that is imminent.
Mom probably has a valid point, since the time he is telling you he is spending with her he probably is spending with the new female.
So, when does mom get to see him?
Anyway, it has cheat written all over it. The only real thing to do is figure out how you care to resolve it. Either by doing nothing and facing the consequences or doing something and helping yourself out.




Sensualips -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 3:52:55 PM)

quote:

Tell Him You are leaving.
Look at His Expressions and body movemets.


This seems like a very bad idea. I firmly believe you should never "test" someone with a threat, especially the threat of the end of a relationship. It basically puts you both in a no-win situation.

It is also ineffective. If he is having an affair, that doesn't mean he doesn't want a relationship with you. I don't believe you will be able to "tell" anything from his reaction -- except how he reacts to emotional manipulation.

You need to talk, but think of a different way to start the conversation.




mnottertail -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 4:19:45 PM)

I am with Mercnbeth on this. It is what it is. Communicate; know......do all the eyes stuff, no reason to escalate. Don't start with I'm leaving but if that's what it is..........

Ron
Didn't we have this conversation or one so close to like it it could be the same, just recently on these boards
Mommas boy and don't go out in public and whoever posted a whole IRC conversation.........

(girl4you: are you up for finding it and linking it? As you know I am a lazy bastard; not me.)




DesertRat -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 6:28:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

lol, there is no other name
quote:

ORIGINAL: MissHarlet

if it looks like a rat ... talks like a rat ... acts like a rat .... or lies like a rat ... it probably is a rat ............




Slightly off-topic here, but in defense of rats: We're not all...er...um...rats.

Bob




mnottertail -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 6:36:28 PM)

Well, DR

apparently, I have had to find out the hard way, that I am not considered more than a vacuole, and can hardly even spell the concept agreed, withing a reasonable time period, I can come close.


LMAO,
Ron




FelinePersuasion -> RE: what would you do? (12/8/2005 10:11:43 PM)

I snuck into my dominants email once and boy was I sorry there was some old emails from someone who tried to play him and I thought he was checking out other submissives and I tried to find out in a non direct way even lied about my question an when the whole truth came out man was I in big trouble. No he was not speaking to others behind my back,yes he'd told me once a lady was trying to play him for a fool, I just didn't realize it was her.


And I was released for lying to him and for being sneaky.



I am of course not sugesting you snuck in or nothing, nobody think I am




wetsub000 -> RE: what would you do? (12/9/2005 12:10:35 AM)

I've found in the past that my instincts were always right. I'd want to take him at his word, I'd rationalise things in my head, convincing myself that I might just be wrong. BUT my instincts were always right.

Whether he is cheating, he was cheating or he wants to be cheating, it seems to me that this relationship is not going well. We can all have our opinions here, but the final action is up to you.




krys -> RE: what would you do? (12/9/2005 4:26:12 AM)

I am going to touch on a rather sensetive subject here, but I don't remember anyone mentionining it on any of the "cheating" threads. Is he cheating on you and lying to you? From what you have said, almost definately. Whether you want to leave him or not, whether you want to look deeper to find out what is going on, those are all things you are going to have to take time to think over. But you need to start using condoms immediately if you are not doing so already. And get yourself tested in the meantime. The unfortunate reality is he may end up bringing you more than emotional pain through dishonesty. And you need to protect yourself from that.




fastlane -> RE: what would you do? (12/9/2005 6:35:47 AM)


quote:

Slightly off-topic here, but in defense of rats: We're not all...er...um...rats.

Bob


LOL, Desert Rats are of a kinder breed.

I would ask him if you could both get rid of the cell phones, as they are creating to much suspicion and they are costly anyway. Well the 900 numbers on mine are!




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