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pahunkboy -> The party is over. trying to grasp it (10/13/2008 5:15:59 AM)
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=12346 Good morning sunshine! I dont know why I am irked at Jenny blowing every penny like it is yet another weekend at the carnival. She has no clue as to how things could go. or is it me? How do I express it? Once again she told me she never votes because "they all lie". Of course that irks me...but I let it slide. Since we have never seen a financial crises we dont know how it goes. Think of all the public works projects that are government mandated. Water meters come to mind. My town needs to do them... so bonds and grants are in question. Next examine 401k-land. Many cant retire because their savings is wiped out. Which brings us to pensions, they could drop one by one. Certainly rx pills will become in short supply. We arent just in time any longer. Which brings me to the holy grail of the US safety net. "Social Security". Being this is "unprecedented" , we never been down this road. Is it presumptuous to assume November checks will be on time? How about December? January? How do we know the bank it comes from is good? Allright alarmist maybe. But as an elder once told me, one has to pay their dues. said another way, pay the piper. So- knowing the larger world is bonkers, should anyone assume SS will be intact? And if I may rant, is this the time to go to the carnival? (sorry I got no sleep last night. I havent turned on the heat yet.)

corysub -> RE: The party is over. trying to grasp it (10/13/2008 5:40:27 AM)
Peter Schiff has been so right over the past several years in warning about the excess in our economy and the danger in following Wall Street pundits as the market was making new highs. Only wish I had listened to him back in 2006!

Irishknight -> RE: The party is over. trying to grasp it (10/13/2008 5:44:27 AM)
Just the very title of this thread reminds me of all the times I have stayed in bed trying to remeber what happened at the party the night before. So often, I found myself unable to grasp the memory of who or what I was doing after a certain point. The pictures (and occasional news articles and citations) tended to help a bit. Who knew it was illegal to swim naked in a public pool? They had just ordered me not to swim in it fully clothed after all. I was trying to comply with their first order.

pahunkboy -> RE: The party is over. trying to grasp it (10/13/2008 5:49:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Irishknight Just the very title of this thread reminds me of all the times I have stayed in bed trying to remeber what happened at the party the night before. So often, I found myself unable to grasp the memory of who or what I was doing after a certain point. The pictures (and occasional news articles and citations) tended to help a bit. Who knew it was illegal to swim naked in a public pool? They had just ordered me not to swim in it fully clothed after all. I was trying to comply with their first order. So that guy was you? I wondered what all the racket was! ;-)

MrRodgers -> RE: The party is over. trying to grasp it (10/13/2008 6:11:38 AM)
The party has just begun. What we are seeing now IS...yes IS capitalism. This trillion dollar swindle is by design kinkroids and condems several generations of our children to the slavery of debt...debt and more debt. How is it do you think it is that we have a federal treasury debt BEFORE all of this latest role at the crap table of wall street was up to over TEN TRILLION dollars ? The WHOLE objective of the real power in the world which is in the few hands of world-wide banking interests and going back over 200 years...is to engineer these speculative bubbles and they FORCE labor (taxpayers) to make them whole through borrowing the money from who ? THEM The only and last barrier is to get the Saudis and Chinese to go along and of course they both being much better role models of capitalist fascists...are and will be going along quite agreeably. How do you think it is that oil and gas doubled in just a few months (relative to historical terms) ? All of this, wars, spending, debt is by design. This latest is nothing more than fear mongering, is a wall street bailout NOT a main street bailout (50% of the people own ONE Percent of stock) and is the 1907 bank crisis being replayed. This is another attempt to consolidate banking, debt and to enslave the masses paying the debt.

pahunkboy -> RE: The party is over. trying to grasp it (10/13/2008 6:14:29 AM)
the young folks will REFUSE to pay. no one in their right mind would go along with it Dude, think, Im 20. I could buy a hamburger, or pay tax. What do I do? [paperwork for food stamps doesnt count. You cant eat food stamps.]

pahunkboy -> RE: The party is over. trying to grasp it (10/13/2008 6:40:44 AM)
-- I was thinking on moms pension. She gets a few hundred a month.... lucky if it is $200. She told me but I forgot. Around the time she was a few years with the state, my one brother lost out by 2 months on a pension. The fortune 500 company he worked for reorganized just 2 months before he was vested. So I deeply promted mom to get her 10 years in with the state. She was a glorified shit cleaner. [MR-MH direct care] During this time, if she had gone 15 years- her medical would have kicked in. I did not push her for 15. 10. I recall standing and holding her at her back door as she was sobbing. ( there was an incident at work and higher ups were after heads ) I still prompted mom to get her 10 years in. ...leaving it totally up to her if she got 15. Well mom came to play hardball just as the others had. You see, mom is more the baking cookie type, not work politics. So as she got closer I noted that forces at her job knew she was wanting "out" and she was one of those who out of small town respect- they put up with. [she worked hard...I dont diss that] Anyhow the very 1st HOUR that she could retire she did. :-) At that point she understood my plea to get her pension in. When she decided not to work the 15 years, I said thats up to you. Well- here around year 12, the contract was changed- and that benefit was deleted. After dad passed in the 80s mom had no idea on money managing. So lately she wanted to move back to Chicago. I sort of understand why, but no. Not totally. I dont care for a metro. The rule was - "you must get market price for your house" "dont give your house away, like the last one" oddly a family showed up that wanted her place- only her place. a cash buyer. So now mom lives in exciting Chicagoland where cocktail parties, evening gowns, and fancy people mingle. sort of. I hate that I will never bump into her in the store. I will never hear that one of a kind voice -- like when I was in the hospital in a haze. I dont know why I am posting this. Anyhow even tho the pension is $200ish, it means the difference of having some things she would not have. In hindsight, it was good planning. I warned my sibings the day the moving van pulled out. I told them her well being is in their hands. That I dont know IL law and system. I sense that they are dropping the ball...and I dont like it. Not that they want to be mean, but everyone is so busy. hmmm. I should get excercise instead of whinning here. smiles- thanks guys. So if I come down on a sibling- who how and to what end. "busy" has become worn out. "busy" hmm. not acceptable.

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