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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/14/2008 7:58:54 PM   
housemouse61


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i'm more of a classic heavy metal girl, meself.  Ozzy, Black Sabbath, Molly Hatchet, etc. etc.

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/14/2008 8:03:47 PM   
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Those who identify as bisexual ... do you find yourself leaning more naturally into favouring one gender? Or are you a right down the middle 50/50 type?


I would have to say that I favor men over women.  I haven't yet looked at a woman and said "I have to have her".  To be attracted to a woman I have to know her.  There is no specific physical type of woman that I'm attracted to, it's all about the person for me. Where men are concerned it's far different for me.  I am physically attracted to them first.  Sometimes the attraction only goes that far, and sometimes with getting to know them it deepens. 

For years I used women for sex never considering a serious relationship with any of them.  The first woman that I did have a serious relationship with made sure I regretted every minute of it.  When I have had women as primary partners, I haven't felt as fulfilled in the relationship as I have with a man as my primary.  My most fulfilling relationship style has been having a male primary and a female or two as secondary. 


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If you identiy as bisexual, are you sexually interested in people who blur the gender boundaries? If you are het/homosexual are you sexually interested in people who blur the gender boundary onto your usually favoured side of the binary?
 


I am intrigued by people who blur the gender boundaries, and there are more than a few that I find very attractive.  I have many friends who fit into that category and I've had some hot play sessions with a few of them.  I've yet to have a sexual or romantic relationship with any of them, and it's not out of the question, but it just hasn't happened.


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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/14/2008 8:06:52 PM   
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That video makes me want to shop at Urban Outfitters.

I like to play with girls sometimes-- I've been know to get Switchy with them -- and a little slap and tickle is fun with the right chick... but couldn't see myself in a lesbian relationship.

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/14/2008 9:06:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: softness
Those who identify as bisexual ... do you find yourself leaning more naturally into favouring one gender? Or are you a right down the middle 50/50 type?

For my primary relationship, I have determined that I *need* a dominant man. For casual dating/FWBs, I'm closer to 50/50, although men are so much easier to find that I've dated a lot more of them than I have women.

Those who do identify as bisexual ... why do you think the PR for bisexuality is often so negative?

It's become trendy, and what is trendy is generally pretty annoying. Also, I like to say, everybody else is just jealous of all my limitless options. ; )

To everyone ... what is your personal  understanding of Pansexual? Is it something you would dismiss as needless label mongering?

Up to this point I've not been one to dissect sexuality to this degree. I've kind of worked on a 3-speed model: gay, straight, and other. (And I agree with Kinsey--most people have some wiggle room on their sexuality in my experience.)

If you identiy as bisexual, are you sexually interested in people who blur the gender boundaries? If you are het/homosexual are you sexually interested in people who blur the gender boundary onto your usually favoured side of the binary?

I have a thing for femme-looking girls with more masculine behaviors (think Faith from Buffy the Vampire Slayer), androgynous girls, and the occasional soft butch.

In reply to some other posters' comments:

My choice in men is usually quirky and/or geeky guys (Walken, Eddie and Brad from Grounded For Life, Zack from Bones.) I am a big MMA fan, though, so the occasional beefy, sweaty, professionally violent man does it for me too (Google Urijah Faber and Andrei Arlovski. You'll thank me.)

Physical attraction is more important to me with women than with men for some reason. Men can be downright ugly and if they're brilliant and in any way charming I'm hooked.

My beloved and I have an agreement that we can have sex with other people as long as we're together (which of course means we both have to sign off on all involved), and lately he's been ok with me having girlfriends without him involved.

There is definitely a difference in the dynamic between me and a woman. With women I'm usually the more dominant partner. Sex has generally been more gentle. And a woman I'm dating has yet to say to say something hurtful and not understand what she did. ; p~

I also hate Katy Perry's idiotic song. I can feel myself getting stupider every time they play it at the gym.

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/14/2008 11:08:34 PM   
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You guys obviously miss the high Irony of Kate Pery when you work with teens .... chavvy teenage girls singing it on the corridors then punching other people and screaming "ERRRRRRR get of me you GAY!"

Gives me a chuckles everytime

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 12:45:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: yourMissTress

I would have to say that I favor men over women.  I haven't yet looked at a woman and said "I have to have her".  To be attracted to a woman I have to know her.  There is no specific physical type of woman that I'm attracted to, it's all about the person for me. Where men are concerned it's far different for me.  I am physically attracted to them first.  Sometimes the attraction only goes that far, and sometimes with getting to know them it deepens. 

I am intrigued by people who blur the gender boundaries, and there are more than a few that I find very attractive.  I have many friends who fit into that category and I've had some hot play sessions with a few of them.  I've yet to have a sexual or romantic relationship with any of them, and it's not out of the question, but it just hasn't happened.



MissTress, I'm in a very similar boat. I've always been attracted to certain women, but never been able to flip that switch from "girl friend with benefits" to "girlfriend" until recently, and now I have a beautifully nebulous relationship with a really amazing lady (we're poly, and secondaries, I'd say). The problem (sorry, CHALLENGE!) is that neither of us has ever really been with a woman when a) the other woman hasn't been sexually aggressive (in the best of ways, of course) or b) there hasn't been a third party present to "direct traffic", as it were. So, we are a learning experience for each other.

I've also always been fascinated by those that blue gender lines, and would definitely identify as pansexual. And though I've not really gotten a chance to sample much of the variety, there so many delicious flavors of people out there!

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 8:52:38 AM   
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i like men.  i like women.  i like sex with some men, and sex with a very select few women.  i'm more about the "can s/he give good hugs?" then wondering "can s/he make me lose my mind in bed?" 

sex isnt just about what happens when the clothes hit the floor.  its all about the emotional connection to me, how we get along, can s/he make me laugh and will they laugh at my silly jokes?  can we TALK after any he-ing-and-she-ing has happened?

mostly "can s/he give good hugs" though.

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 1:39:23 PM   
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I'm having a bit of the reverse scenerio.  I just got out of a ltr with a woman and haven't dated men since I was 27 (41 now).  And suddenly I find myself in a very serious relationship with a man.  It's kind of freaking me out.  Because I've been an "out" lesbian (in utah of all places) I feel like I've kind of been put in a reverse closet -- it is so weird.  BTW, when I first started dating men again I liked to tell people that I was straight-curious.  I do think people on both sides of the fence (both straight and gay) want bisexual people to "chose."  People don't like inconsistancy.  Personally, I'm having a hard time not calling myself lesbian still, even though I'm monogomous with a man.  And I dont' want to have to lose that community, I've been a memeber of it for a long time, given my time, energy, and money to it, loved it.  Pansexual, I think it's a great way to tweak wording, to create new meaning.  And I love gender bending - yum.... in fact, you want good music that explores that, check out Amy Ray's (from the Indigo Girls), new solo album.  In fact, here's the lyrics for the song "cold shoulder" on the album"                          See that girl over there she's gonna give me the cold shoulder
She may be straight tonight but last night she let me hold her
It took a little bit of faith and a lot of patience
I got all night long and no reservations

Oh yeah alright
The Alabama kids are coming over tonight
They're gonna drive in into Georgia and rock us right
They say the ring in the tree shows a long line of passion
From the cotton fields to the emancipation

Oh yeah alright
Baby are you gonna baby are you gonna
Baby are you gonna treat me right?

I hang with the deviants and the tranny nation
They don't take the names their mama gave em
They've been so fucked with they've got nothing to lose
They taught me one cool thing I don't have to choose

Oh yeah alright
Baby are you gonna baby are you gonna
Baby are you gonna treat me right?

My hearts balled up and I'm ready to explode
Girl we can light up the night like a firework show
Put your back against the speaker and feel it rumble
Put your faith in me don't give me that cold shoulder

Oh yeah alright
Baby are you gonna baby are you gonna
Baby are you gonna treat me right?

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 1:50:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: monywildcat

BLECH I hate that song!!!  It reminds me of all the barsexual girls that get freaky with their friends (or the random person, such as moi) to get guys' attention.  And adding to the bad PR.  Damn them. 
There is an interesting book called "look both ways" about bisexual politics.  The author has an interesting take on the barsexual girls (that term made me laugh, I'd never heard it before).  She thinks the guys/bf's attention actual acts as a "beard" for the girls to fullfill their bisexual inclinations and is an important step in the process of accepting bisexuality.  Just a thought.  The book is quite facinating too.

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 2:00:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: softness

Watch this ... because its fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOrafSpDmN4&feature=related


Okay, so...take or leave the song....but...that is a slumber party that I would -kill or die- to attend...and I want her little gold outfit...oh to look that good in it. 


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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 2:02:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VivaciousSub

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ORIGINAL: colouredin

I love that song and its like a marketing gneuis

For me bisexuality has never had a bad press the whole greedy thing has never been an issue for me. i actually think people are pretty tolerant to female bisexuals on the whole but male slightly differant there is a special kind of stigma attached to that, I have always assumed due to the physical act itself women on women seems far less intrusive, this is what i get from people who say negative things about bisexual men.



I also like that song - but I like Jimmy Buffet, so don't take my musical tastes with anything approaching seriousness.

I'm bi, and what coloured wrote struck a chord with me. I think she's hit the nail on the head. Here's the interpretations of "bi" that I've found for men and women - note, this isn't how I think.

Female Bisexual - likes women sexually but prefers to date men - I would guess this comes from porn? Thus, they're not seen as "gay" so much as "playing". Both of these views I feel are unhelpful. When I'm with a woman, I'm not playing. For some reason, I sense that bisexual women are seen as "safer" than bisexual males. Safer, in this case to the so-called natural order of man-woman relationships - she doesn't really mean it! She'll be okay once she finds a nice man!

Male Bisexual - seems to be seen as "gay" and occasionally "playing" at heterosexuality. I've met quite a few people who have honestly said, "there's no such thing as male bisexuals, they're gay men hidden in the closet".  This interpretation is even more off-putting to me.

The great Dr. Kinsey noted that almost zero people are 100% hetero- or 100% homosexual. The rest of us fall on a continuum. I think we all - that's everyone, not just us on the boards - could stand to review the work of Dr. Kinsey, if not for his specific conclusions but to reaffirm the fact that there's a panopoly of sexual practices, mores and beliefs. I fall in the 60/40 range, men to women.

Edited to note: whoever came up with the word "barsexual" needs an award. Pronto.



Nicely said!  Thank you

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 3:04:11 PM   
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I am attracted to whom I attracted to, simple as that.
I've been attracted to, and dated, males, females and those who identify as neither and both.  I've been attracted to transgendered, completely androgenous, delightfully feminine women, wonderfully masculine women, pretty boys and men's men.
I don't really have a preference one way or the other.  I am currently in a relationship with a very man's man, so I am not looking for a man on this site, but a woman.
I'm also probably the pickiest bisexual/pansexual woman out there.  I am only interested to people I have a high level of attraction and chemistry with, and I am definitely not a bisexual who will "take anything."  Unfortunately I think so many bisexuals are have bad reps because many of those who identify as bisexual are more likely bicurious, and some do jump around a lot.  Granted, I prefer having a male and a female in my life if possible, but I am very straightforward about that.  Am I greedy?  Maybe.

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 3:06:23 PM   
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As far who I look at and think is hot I tend to be about equal. I look at men, women and I'm sure some that weren't at all what I thought they were. Where it gets sticky for me is actual interaction. I have a lot more experience with men than woman and I am more comfortable trying to flirt with a guy. Its not that I'd say I prefer men over women because I don't feel that is the case... Its just... I grew up in the south and in some places if your not careful not only would you get rejected but you'd get the shit beat out of you as soon as you turned the corner (Although that is a much bigger problem for men than women). So I'm just a bit more comfortable approaching guys.

Why the bad rep? For one thing people aren't comfortable not knowing where the other person stands. So you must make a decision either way.... If you're not religious you must be an atheist... If you're not a democrat you must be a republican... If you're not straight you must be gay.

I don't know about anybody else but I tend find that there are a good number of people who believe that bisexuals don't really exist at all. I've been told a number of times that anybody who clams to be bisexual is only being greedy/sluttly/wild/whatever and that eventually they all get over it and become respectable people when they choose one way or another. This statement is usually then backed up with "proof" in the form of a long list of bisexuals who have committed to a long term relationship with one person... Therefore "choosing" to be attracted to the sex of that particular person, instead of simply being attracted to that person no matter their sex.

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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 3:08:38 PM   
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"ERRRRRRR get of me you GAY!"


damnit...im not gay..im a LESBIAN.




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RE: Kissing girls ... and other things - 10/15/2008 4:29:01 PM   
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I consider myself to be "bi-sensual".  I'm mostly straight, but I like play that includes another woman from time to time.  The women I'm attracted to are feminine types... soft bodies, long hair, nice boobs, etc.

When it comes to sex, I'm not that big a fan of one-on-one encounters with a woman.  I tend to have quite a bit of fun with threesomes, though... and not just the two of us ladies focused on the guy.

When it comes to relationships, I'm pretty much an equal-opportunity kisser and cuddler.

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