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EvilSoul -> To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 12:58:34 AM)

I'm baccckkkk with another confusing poll question . (1) which of you that are Dom or Domme feel that to be called Master or Mistress over your birth name? (2)does this make your authority over your sub/slave greater than to be just called by your parents given name? (3) who agrees with Me that to be called by your birth name would be alot more powerful than to be called Master or Mostress......................EvilSoul aka Leonard'o

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MistressDREAD -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 1:41:12 AM)

Whats in a name?

Your name when used
addresses You personally
and is personal.
In sum of Our culture
things that are concidered
posessions and the
human factor are taken out
of the address it is concidered
wrong for
posessions to speak names
as this gives them a personality
that was
suppose to have been taken
away when they became posessions.
You Positions role when
addressed gives Power to
Your place with in.
Put the two together and it
tells about You and Your
role and Power in it.
This is why Masters/ Mistresses
address each other by name and slaves
address the position,
its a protical manner of
placement. submissives call
Masters/Mistress by both
their positions and first
names or by their Gender
addage ( which I dispise )
to actknoledge both parts
of the whole of a person.
slaves simply address the
Power role or address
according to what the Dominant
deems. JMO




darkinshadows -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 5:19:03 AM)

Out of persoanl choice... I do not call anyone Master or Mistress unless

1) They are my Master... and that is His Prefered address.
2) A particular Dominant I know extremely well has a submissive that I know. As to myself... Master/Mistress (or even Dr. or Father) denotes that they have something that isnt held by everyone.(Be is slave, sub or degree).

As a rule, If I am sharing more than passing 'hellos' and holding a conversation with a Dominant then I usually make my preference clear and then ask the Dominant in question their preference. Anyone insisting I call them Master(IMO) isnt a person I would be interested in holding a conversation with and I would politely depart.

Personally... I dont believe a Name makes a person anything. I am Angel.... but thats not my real name. Its a nick... a pet name... If someone wants to call me by my birthname or call me Angel... its freedom of choice... I even answer to 'girl' if its spoken with respect and politeness... as I do not hold to labels. It isnt what is said, Its how its spoken.




LadyShoshin -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 6:02:05 AM)

I don't allow subs to call me Mistress. That is reserved for when I have a sub in more than a consideration collar.
They call me Ma'am or Lady Shoshin.
Having someone call me Mistress or Goddess seems presumptious on my part. I don't use my birth name, all my friends call me Shoshin, I prefer it to my birth name.




ladyangel -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 6:47:59 AM)

I am in agreement with Shoshin.

My given name is Angela Dawn. I answer to Angie, Ang.....hey, even sometimes Bitch will get an answer. [sm=kiss.gif]

Typically, to those I am past "intros" with, I am ma'am or Lady. (from Lady Angel) Only when there is serious consideration, will it go beyond ma'am. I prefer to not be referred to as Mistress or Goddess. But, for first contact from those claiming to be subs/slaves etc....I make it clear that Lady or ma'am will work just fine.

And yes...."sexy", "nice rack", "great tits", and "baby"----those illicit no response whatsoever.




MrThorns -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 7:08:12 AM)

My slave is the only one who refers to me as Master. People I play with, will refer to me as Sir. I don't prefer to be called Master or Sir over my birth name by the general populace... but within the circles of my influence...I do prefer it.

Does this make my authority greater? No. What it does do, is maintain discipline.

Do I agree with you? Not really.


Hope this answers your questions...

~Thorns




MistressDREAD -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 7:23:20 AM)

Those whom put no value on their name
have not had to earn it, and even ones
given name is of great value to whom
the person is. Your name is Your honor
Your strenths Your weaknesses. It sums
up who You are and its utterance will gain
your attention and others by the very mention
of it regardless if its Margeret Thatcher or
Atilla the Hun a name brings up instant recognition
and either respect or distain so to say it means
nothing in the world today is saying you are nothing
in the world today. Our name is uniquely Ours. It shows
Dominance or suplication, It shows heritage and birthright,
It shows accomplishments and failures. But whats more
then that it is Who We are,be it a sur name or nickname
We have chosen for Our selfs it refects what We feel.




darkinshadows -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 7:52:49 AM)

I do believe that names play a part of who we are... but I dont agree that a Name makes anyone...

Margeret Thatcher to some was a great lady
To the miners, she was an evil dictator.

A name only identifies someone as a person.
Its the behaviour of a person who makes that person either a wiseman or a fool.




MistressDREAD -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 8:59:30 AM)

The same goes for Atilla the Hun
dark sum saw Him as a Great
Leader and Warrior and others
as an Assassin.

But My Point is how the name its self
invoked thought in You and how you
viewed them based off of the name
I thru out and You proved
My point brilliantly!




TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 10:02:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD
Whats in a name?


That which we call a rose / By any other name would smell as sweet.

Personally, I love being called Sir or Master or whatever silly name I choose to be know as and for a particular person, time, and dynamic. I think it is fun to play with addresses and titles and I always write them into my contracts.

Yours,
"Mack" Taggard




afmvdp -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 10:59:02 AM)

If I wanted to be called Master I would buy a plantation. I never saw the joy in that. My name on their lips sounds much sweeter. JMO but the terms Master/slave seem inappropriate to as "slave" deontes being held against their will while submissive implies that they are their out of their own free will and are choosing to serve.

Though I must admit to using unconventional naming structures for when people are being unruley. The name is what it signifies. If I am to call them a stool then they are a stool, if I am to call them a pet or a toy then that also is what they become but as easilly as their function may change also their role in My life at least will also change. Both words of uplifting and words of destruction are very heart felt when coming from someone you have placed in a position of power above you, so the words you use are very directly relative to what your feelings should be. I think it is far more important in this respect and for these reasons that a submissive will become unattached with who they were prior to that moment than it would be for a Dominant.




ThorsHammer -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 11:34:42 AM)

To me, the honorific of "Master" is one that is earned. Earned by providing clear and convinicing evidence over time that you are honorable, truthful, dependable, etc.

Personally I prefer to be addressed by my given name .... Donn (Yes, my name really does have two n's) If I am in the company of a D/s couple and the Dominant person requires the submissive/slave to address me as Sir, Master, or any other given title, then I respect their choice. That is their perogitive ..... not mine. Otherwise Donn works for me.

Just my thoughts

Donn




Sinergy -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/4/2004 5:04:56 PM)

quote:

I don't allow subs to call me Mistress. That is reserved for when I have a sub in more than a consideration collar.


I do not allow anybody to call me Mistress.

Sinergy

p.s. It is a KILT, not a dress.




NightDaughter -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/7/2004 2:41:43 PM)

I myself call no one save my Master, Master or Sir.

K I will call other people Sir, but usely its in an accademic setting in that case, or in the work place, then its normaly a sarcastic tone (since I don't really like my boss)




BlackGoddess -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/7/2004 2:57:05 PM)

1. I preferred to be called Goddess or Ma'am by slaves I have in training. My husband calls me "My Queen" 90% of the time. He refers to me as his Master when he is talking to other submissives (I NEVER did like the term "mistress").

2. My friends (outside of BDSM) call me by my given name. Mere slaves aren't allowed to call me just Janai; it must be Queen Janai. Other Dom/mes sometimes call me by my screen name.

3. depends on who is doing the calling.

BlackGoddess aka Queen Janai




Sundew02 -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/7/2004 7:52:45 PM)

Since I don't limit myself to being with my males to just d/s settings, I prefer, Ma'am. And that only by those that are mine. And they too can and do call me by my birth name. I find no real power in the title. If the person addressing me does so out of earned respect, then there is power, no matter what they call me. Sundew




Sundew02 -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/7/2004 10:45:34 PM)

nudging Sinergy, I read a post from you on another thread, and of course I lost it. What happened to your hand/arm? You are wearing a cast? I hope not for much longer. Sundew




iwillserveu -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/8/2004 7:11:50 AM)

Call people what they want to be called, with an exception. Mistress means something. (So does "Master" but not being Alfred to Master Bruce [Wayne] and Master Dick [Grayson], I don't care.[:)]) (Yes, really, "Master Dick"[:D])

Anyway my submission comes from me wether she calls herself "Lady Mistress Smith" or "Honeybugglewuggums Smith".




MistressZanthia -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/8/2004 2:04:51 PM)

"Mistress" is a professional term to me. My ad here on collarme is professional only, hence my use of the term. And my professional boys use it accordingly along with Ma'am, Mommy and Goddess. It depends on the man and the fantasy as to how I'll have him address me.

In my BDSM social life, most people just call me Zan or Lady Zan, as is my preference.
In my personal life with my partner, I prefer M'lady (in scene) or my real name (all other times).

As for the posturing people do with their labels, I could care less. To each his/her own.




theroebabe -> RE: To be Called Master or Mistress (8/8/2004 3:55:30 PM)

Well the local BDSM group here in Long Island is not big on protocol, thanfully for me. LOL. If someone is under orders to address men as Sir and women as Ma'am, they do. However, i will not address someone as Sir or Ma'am unless my dominant orders me to or that person is my dominant.

Master.Mistress for me is reserved to the one i am collared to. If someone i meet online wants me to address them as Sir i nicely say no thanks (sometimes i say it not so nicely LOL).

I guess i dont want to cheapen the D/S dynamic by calling every dom, dick or harry: sir or master or Mistress or Ma'am.

Roe




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