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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 2:23:17 PM   
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I guess you cannot post images in the threads. :(

Destroy the Apstrophe
The Plural

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 2:37:51 PM   
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Why is it that people who enjoy ranting, and having tantrums over word usage still can't manage to capitalize properly?

And how bored must one be, to have nothing better to do than lose their mind over something like this?

This... is what I would be more curious about, rather than someone who obviously isn't for you, when little things like this drive you crazy. I'd also be interested in knowing how long is there longest meaningful relationship, and are they still in it, when small things like this make them blow up?

Thanks to all those brave enough to give an actual thought out, meaningful answer. (And, yes, I realize I am potentially stepping into the fire... but I can take it....smiles)

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 3:01:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tempestspet

Why is it that people who enjoy ranting, and having tantrums over word usage still can't manage to capitalize properly?


I manage to capitalize just fine, thank you.


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And how bored must one be, to have nothing better to do than lose their mind over something like this?

Pretty bored at the moment, as I've been home sick.

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I'd also be interested in knowing how long is there longest meaningful relationship, and are they still in it, when small things like this make them blow up?

The longest was 13 years, the current just shy of a decade... and all of us have pet-peeves and things that we rant about on occasion. Long-term relationships usually have individuals with their own pet peeves. Oh.. and I've spent the last decade in poly relationships, so have experience in dealing with pet-peeves from multiple individuals at the same time... *smiles*

Every so often, it is good, I think, to let people know that education isn't wasted, and that proper use of the English language (or any other language, for that matter) is both appreciated and desirable. Sometimes, it is just plain fun!

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 3:26:42 PM   
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Thank you Lady Zephyr,

I'm not poly, though I can apreciate those it works for. And those who can make it work, that's awesome!! I know a couple different families, and it flows beauifully.

I'm 32 (almost 33), I've been with Master/husband for 15 yrs. Yep, I was 17 when I met him. And have been married most of it. All of our 3 "unmentionables" belong, biologically, to the 2 of us. So kudos to both of us, the way I look at it. You were not, smiles, one that I was speaking about with the ranting and capitalization problem. Those who have the problem know it, as it probably ticked them off to read my post, or they are mumbling about it right now.

Absolutely everyone has pet peeves, but to lose your mind over one, just seems really childish. I have pet peeves, and yes some are more irritating than others. But I don't become sadisticly torturous over any of them. I simply realize they are my little quirks, and don't make anyone elses life hell over them. Or I try very hard not too. Have I always succeeded? No. But it happens very few and far between.

Ok, have to stop for now.. one of my pet peeves is going to rear it's ugly head *smiles* and that's not fair to you guys...

Thanks again Lady Zephyr. I would love to talk with you further sometime. You absolutely seem like a very interesting person.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 3:49:50 PM   
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My pet peeve is when posters forget what the OP was--- this one was dominate versus dominant--it had nothing to do with capitals or use of english or English----

I too have an issue with dominate versus Dominant (oops a cap there)-- and the confusion that domineering means the same---I think it comes from those not understanding what the life is all about----imho

< Message edited by MHOO314 -- 12/9/2005 3:51:38 PM >


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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 4:04:54 PM   
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Dominant and Submissive are fine to use as nouns because they describe what you are looking for well enough. Just like you might say you are looking for a blonde. A lot of words change their meanings over time.

But saying you are looking for a 'Dominate' just makes you a moron.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 4:33:53 PM   
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And to combine two aforementioned pet peeves...referring to all women at a particular event as "subbie sisses."

I throw up a little bit in my mouth every time.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/9/2005 5:33:05 PM   
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I am so with you, the generalization of both "sides" makes Me ill--nice point

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 1:18:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: candystripper

According to Merriam-Webster, 10th Edition, neither "Dominant" nor "submissive" are nouns. However, their usage as nouns in the world of BDSM is common, understood, and necessary.

candystropper



These two words are adjectives, ie: dominant female, submissive male. They are still not nouns in BDSM culture, the noun is missing and inferred. The words are still being used to DESCRIBE.

I'm sorry candystripper, this was not directed at you personally, you share the opinion of many. I do not disagree that the terms are common and understood, I have used them in that context myself. Majority use however, does not make those terms grammatically correct.


Edited for of all things, sentence structure, lol...

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 1:49:57 AM   
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Some folks on here have PhD’s while others have dropped out of high school. Some write with perfect English using apt similes and metaphors while others struggle to get your fast food order right. You have to realize the situation before you walk into things.

Everyone knows that many into D/s use those words erroneously and complaining about it displays that you have not considered the situation you have walked into. Sure there are Dominators out there, my personal favorite, but it would be hackneyed on my part to call them out because that is just how it is.

What stands out when someone does complain is that others think he or she has picked a trite subject in hopes of feeling lots of pats on the back.


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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 6:02:51 AM   
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I don't disagree with you on any point except how you're communicating the topic. You're assuming people know what nouns and verbs are and how to differentiate between the two. Unfortunately this is not always the case.

I use this particular faux pas as a litmus test. Someone who improperly uses these two in their sentences is probably not someone I'm going to develop any sort of intimate interest in. As you say, it's a bad first impression.



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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 6:09:58 AM   
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I hereby offer a prize to the post with the bestest and mostest and cleverest substitutions of noun and verb forms.

Who'll be first to sashay up to the board?




Perhaps not entirely germane, but -

Wouldn't a prize be nice, eXpecially if you don't have to aXe for it?

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 6:11:44 AM   
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I constantly make social and political faux paux, by example ASS WHIPPING is a noun as I use it. I liked W.C. Fields habit of making up words to suit his needs. "........the folgent sunrise.........."; perfect!

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 6:21:13 AM   
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those are -also- among my pet peeves.

My other one? being called "sis' by anyone not biologically related to me. Ick.



Or "hun" "babe" "kid" or any other diminutive that is perceived as "sweet" by someone I am not intimate with, especially someone I only know casually.

In these instances "ma'am" "Ms" or "Miss" is socially acceptable and not overly familiar. I dislike it when someone assumes a familiarity I have not given permission to. It's a consent thing. I've found that, in general, dominants (especially male dominants) are especially prone to this behavior. I usually respond by calling them "snookums" and "pookie wookie."

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Since we're pissing and moaning... - 12/10/2005 6:52:18 AM   
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I dislike entire paragraphs with no period and lines of text with periods in places that make no sense. I'm a bit more tolerant of comma splices but a period for no other reason than that is where the writer would have taken a breath is infuriatingly illegible. I usually just stop reading people who write this way.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 7:47:43 AM   
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quote:

Yes, you are correct proper grammar is much nicer to deal with. Proper grammar, however is not a pet peeve of mine.


Not a pet peeve with me either.
If i mistakenly write Dominate instead of Dominant it is a typo, i know perfectly well the difference between them.
i am not here to correct, or be corrected. Just talk with friends (with good grammar or not) and enjoy some of the posts and info i read.

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 9:28:31 AM   
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since i am normally anal anyway.......

a lot of things in life irritate the shit out of me.

but some things,, i just try to let-go.

one of these i let go is this lifestyle ..
use whatever word YOU feel comfy with and forget the rest.
hell for all i care------call it chair......
and be done with it.
humans have-to attach SOME label to something to mentally point at and say...this is the topic.

it doesn't matter anyway. in the long run...no 2 are going to use the pinpoint accuracy word anyway.
everyone chooses their own.
and
who cares anyway?????

i know i don't give a rat's ass!!!!!!!!!!!


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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 9:46:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692


These two words are adjectives, ie: dominant female, submissive male. They are still not nouns in BDSM culture, the noun is missing and inferred. The words are still being used to DESCRIBE.

I'm sorry candystripper, this was not directed at you personally, you share the opinion of many. I do not disagree that the terms are common and understood, I have used them in that context myself. Majority use however, does not make those terms grammatically correct.


Edited for of all things, sentence structure, lol...


The next edition of the OED will list dominant and submissive as nouns, if they keep playing by the same rules. This will happen partly as a result of the efforts of a poster to these boards. The next edition might or might not list "dominate" in this ugly way too. That'd be a pity to someone of my tastes. But the OED as it seems to me is a chronicle, not an arbiter.

Unlike the French we have no coven of Immortals to decide these things for us.

So I'll bite. If not majority use, what is your standard of grammatical correctness?

If you'd like to flesh your response out with some comment on how the authority (most broadly defined) you cite acquires or holds it stature and how it evolves, that would be even more fun.

Thanks

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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 10:01:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MizSuz


quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah


I hereby offer a prize to the post with the bestest and mostest and cleverest substitutions of noun and verb forms.

Who'll be first to sashay up to the board?




Perhaps not entirely germane, but -

Wouldn't a prize be nice, eXpecially if you don't have to aXe for it?


Gott im Himmel! This will be difficult enough to manage in English. Let's not bring Germane into it.

Dialects are cool though. And don't people around here tend to gravitate toward where they'll encounter more x's?

Kind of you, by the way, to capitalize for our benefit on the emphatic capabilities of the majuscule.


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RE: Dominate is a verb, not a noun! - 12/10/2005 10:05:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: candystripper

According to Merriam-Webster, 10th Edition, neither "Dominant" nor "submissive" are nouns. However, their usage as nouns in the world of BDSM is common, understood, and necessary.

candystropper




Common and understood, I understand. But necessary?

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