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I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 8:29:46 AM   
IrishMist


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Status: offline 		We all know that negotiations of safety and well being are the number one concern of anyone entering into a relationship with another. What our expectations are ( I can hear the groans already .......no, this is not about expectations ), what we generally seek in a relationship, what our limits are regarding safety, etc. This got me thinking about an article I had read years ago, written by a slave. In the article, she talked about the fact that while we are so eager to discuss the easy things, we never stop to think about the issues that go much deeper within each of us. The limits that are 'ingrained' within our soul and spirit. She had made the suggestion that each should make a list of limits that reflected character, morals, values, and the spirit.

Thinking about this this morning, I thought it would be an interesting to try. For three hours, I sat and examined my spirit, my soul, my morals, my values, and my character. These are some of what I came up with.

I WILL NEVER SUBMIT TO:

Hating anyone
Letting anyone harm my daughter in any way
Intentionally harming another; whether it be emotional, physical, or mental.
Willful deceit.
Seeing the glass half empty; it will always be half full
Rumors
Having a closed mind.
Believing that only my way is the right way

I know there are more lol, but that was all I could think of at the time

Curious to see how others would respond to this.
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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 8:41:02 AM   
Mercnbeth


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unless Master directed His slave to, this slave would never submit to:

Chat rooms for conversation

"Creative" Spelling

Any organized religion

a tanning bed

Hair dye

Vera Wang's designs

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 8:59:51 AM   
Tine11


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Status: offline 		I will never Submit to

never physically hurt a animal
never do anything that coudl harm my future children in any way
never do give up who i am at my core
never give up my family (nor woud they give me up)
not do anythign on prupose that could possably harm another human being w/out consent
never not stop learning from life, and usign to to shape my future


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The way it gitters if you polish it right.
If the light should turn and leave you blinded.
Take the dream and give it one more try.

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 9:26:37 AM   
champagnewishes


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Status: offline 		I would take that one step further and entitle my list-

"I will not submit to anyone who would place me in the position to..."

It may sound like the same thing...but on careful consideration, it really isn't. (i'm having deep thoughts today...lol)

In any case, thanks for providing some food for thought.

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 9:30:47 AM   
MistressOfGa


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quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

We all know that negotiations of safety and well being are the number one concern of anyone entering into a relationship with another. What our expectations are ( I can hear the groans already .......no, this is not about expectations ), what we generally seek in a relationship, what our limits are regarding safety, etc. This got me thinking about an article I had read years ago, written by a slave. In the article, she talked about the fact that while we are so eager to discuss the easy things, we never stop to think about the issues that go much deeper within each of us. The limits that are 'ingrained' within our soul and spirit. She had made the suggestion that each should make a list of limits that reflected character, morals, values, and the spirit.

Thinking about this this morning, I thought it would be an interesting to try. For three hours, I sat and examined my spirit, my soul, my morals, my values, and my character. These are some of what I came up with.

I WILL NEVER SUBMIT TO:

Hating anyone
Letting anyone harm my daughter in any way
Intentionally harming another; whether it be emotional, physical, or mental.
Willful deceit.
Seeing the glass half empty; it will always be half full
Rumors
Having a closed mind.
Believing that only my way is the right way

I know there are more lol, but that was all I could think of at the time

Curious to see how others would respond to this.


IrishMist,
Funny you should approach this topic as I was talking to My po-submissive last night and we were discussing hard limits. One of the things that I stress (and I can't stress enough) is for him to look outside of the physical things that he will not submit to. I also ask him to write it out clearly and send it to Me. I can learn alot about a potential submissives charactor and morals just by having him list what he will not do, under any circumstances. I respect that more than anything in a submissive when they can be true to themselves without fear of losing a po-Mistress.

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 10:04:41 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Rooting for the Boston Red Sox.

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 10:10:42 AM   
IrishMist


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Forgot an important one...

Rooting for the Boston Red Sox.


Oh no......that's not good.....that's not good at all

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 10:28:54 AM   
perverseangelic


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
unless Master directed His slave to, this slave would never submit to:


Not to be nitpicky, but doesn't this statement contradict itself? You can't say you'd "never" submit to it, because you gavea situation where you would.

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 10:47:26 AM   
Mercnbeth


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quote:

Not to be nitpicky, but doesn't this statement contradict itself? You can't say you'd "never" submit to it, because you gavea situation where you would.


gee, perverse......couldn't you tell it was an attempt at humor? this slave thought the Vera Wang comment sort of gave it all away.

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 11:19:51 AM   
perverseangelic


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

quote:

Not to be nitpicky, but doesn't this statement contradict itself? You can't say you'd "never" submit to it, because you gavea situation where you would.


gee, perverse......couldn't you tell it was an attempt at humor? this slave thought the Vera Wang comment sort of gave it all away.


I'm just being dense these past few days I guess. Holiday season in retail.

I guess what with the tone of the OP, I figured it was at least semi-serious. ~shrug~

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 11:34:12 AM   
candystripper


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Status: offline 		Hummm, what would i NEVER do, under ANY circumstances?

deliberately fail my kid in love or support.

give up a friend or friends on orders from my Dom or Master.

leave my One, unless He violated our relationship and broke our bond.

surrender my right to my own opinion, and the need to feel heard by my Dom or Master, though He has final decision-making authority.

place myself in any danger, including agreeing to anything that would de-stabilise me should our relationship end.

candystripper

< Message edited by candystripper -- 12/9/2005 11:35:21 AM >

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 1:33:53 PM   
AlderTheKitty


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give up my opinion

allow my self to be feminised i am a man and that is who i wish to be and proud of it *scratches balls*

give up my faith for any reasion i am a pagan and if someone doesn't like it screw them if they wanted me they would want Me as i am

these are it for now
and i was asked by one person i had submiitted to. to help her rape and murder young girls


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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 2:23:37 PM   
fastlane


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Status: offline 		Eat Peas!

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 3:16:46 PM   
nelbot


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Status: offline 		LOL! Creative spelling or gramar for me! A potential master once said that all gramar and punctuation was subjective, I had a hard time keeping the communication going, just couldn't read what he wrote until I finally gave up!

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of pleasure and pain both have their gain for
what is a devil but an angel in bondage?

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 3:22:56 PM   
MizSuz


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Romance Novels.

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- Robert Heinlein

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 5:19:44 PM   
IrishMist


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Status: offline 		LMAO ok, I am trying very hard not to giggle, but I am fighting a losing battle.....


...........unsweetened coffee

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 5:41:31 PM   
Wildfleurs


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Status: offline 		I WILL NEVER SUBMIT TO:

A dirty sanchez

Cleveland Steamer

or...

The Donkey Punch

C~

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 6:04:30 PM   
mons


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Status: offline 		what you had written touch me so many think of slave and submissive are not thinking they are people who think for themsleves and i see from all of the answer the most important is what not to do to hurt someone just to hurt them, and the childern it made me have tears so many women who are not submissive will let a man beat their childern, so this show me how strong all of you are i respect submissive and slaves that is why when i have a submissive i give them respect to the fullest. and i want the same in return i see all of you have your whole being into this and want to show that you are a thinking person who wil not just take anything just becase someone thinks you should great for all of you i think puishment and all of the things that go with it is fun and senual, hot and heavy as long as we both enjoy that pleasure that come with it you a;; have my deppest respect always

mons that is why i love being a dominant woman

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 6:12:43 PM   
girl4you2


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quote:

ORIGINAL: fastlane

Eat Peas!

aw common, just a few...

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RE: I will not submit to......... - 12/9/2005 6:27:15 PM   
Aileen68


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spaghetti sauce from a jar
polyester sheets
red wine kept in a fridge
red wine with a screw cap

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