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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/21/2008 7:12:16 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: kristileigh
My question is ........has there been a point when you have experienced ultimate trust with your Master or Mistress?

Well hot kinky situations like that can help bring it into clear focus, but the fact is that 'ultimate trust' is an experience we have every day.  We get into the car and trust them not to contribute to dying in a crash.  We eat the food they prepare and trust they know how to cook it so it won't kill us.  We share who we are- to me knowing my partner KNOWS ME to that extent and still wants to be with me is more wonderful than any kinky act you can think of.

Cutting my skin open, burning me, breaking me down into a mess of tears and crap and spit and piss and cum- yeah that's hot and intense.  But KNOW ME, and still BE with me?  That's trust.  And I have it every day.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/21/2008 7:28:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: colouredin

For me the ultimate trust isnt letting him put his hand over my mouth or sticking needles into me, that means nothing really. For me the ultimate trust is telling him I love him, introducing him to the people I love. Its the day to day stuff that matters.


Ditto!


....ditto, Taggart?

<sorry had to get my Blazing Saddles reference in>

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/27/2008 6:29:38 AM   
hopefulslave7


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Status: offline 		Trust is given with risk always. There is a level of uncertainty and doubt that is eliminated by our Dominants for trust to come forth. So the greater the level of uncertainty and doubt, the more trust is applied towards our Dominants. i'm not sure if i believe in ultimate trust or can capture the thought of it in my head in all honesty. i believe in trust though, and i have come to realize that it can not be solely earned through action. Relying on the mere actions of someone will result in failed expectation and ruin trust. Trust is taken at a single word and guided by the heart. i am in no way saying that goodwill and intention is enough (it is definitely not), but it is a fusion of the word, intent, and action of a person that trust is given and earned. i believe our Dominants are not wanting us as submissives to nievely put our hope and trust in them without not offering the opportunity to let Them show us the strength and dominion they have in Their being over us in atmostpheres of tension and pressure. our Dominants are great for a reason, and to me i humbly would like to see my Mistress radiate Her greatness and trust will be an outflow expression of obedience of the inward conviction of submission i have because She is great. 

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/27/2008 7:46:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've never given Him access to all my chocolate...so...no.

Sorry.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/27/2008 9:26:31 AM   
hopefulslave7


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Status: offline 		“Follow your heart, but be quiet for a while first. Ask questions, then feel the answer. Learn to trust your heart.”



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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/27/2008 9:38:03 AM   
sleeper798


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Status: offline 		OK, I actually offered my Master all my chocolate!  (But only after He said He preferred milk chocolate to dark...tee hee!)  But seriously, one of the reasons my Master took me as his slave was because we had an incredible bond and trust with each other, one that we really couldn't explain.  It was just there.  I trust him to do anything with me, to me, whatever.  I can't say that I have experienced the kind of thing the OP described, yet, but that is because we are really just getting started.  I know it will happen for us many, many times!

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/27/2008 10:12:44 AM   
ProlificNeeds


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Status: offline 		Given my reckless love of risky play I can't say putting my life into His hands is ultimate trust, or not the best example of it.

My best example would be, when I open up emotionally and set myself up for heartbreak, and then find I am completely adored and taken care of.. that's where my feelings of deep trust come from... I am far more protective of my psyche than my body.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/27/2008 10:22:38 AM   
CatdeMedici


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Oh, I experienced that years ago, I have now moved on to Penultimate Trust.


is that before or after "uber"?

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/27/2008 10:23:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ultimate trust does not come easy to me. Words to me are useless sounds in the wind. It takes a matter of time before someone will gain my trust.  I am not gullible and am a major skeptic to many people. Sir has entered my trusting him zone and i am willing to open more and more. I do trust him to find my chocolate stash in the freezer and my hot chocolate. I do trust that will make me happy that this pleases him. I do trust there will be times he will just show up here without warning, and find me trustworthy. I am pleased that he knows i would never share anything regarding him that is on a personal level to strangers period, and nor close friends, if he prefers me not too. This again shows that i am trustworthy of serving him.  In building his trust in me, i have given my mind body and soul over to him without question. Utimate trust is a building thing, so far we both have shown no reasons to not.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 10/27/2008 1:04:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I trusted my Master with my heart and as time has proved i was right to have done so.  Sometimes when Master comes over he is totally beat so he takes a nap before we do anything else.  I usually doze also, he says see sweetheart i trust you totally because i am not worried to sleep with you.  So i guess falling asleep with someone is an ultimate trust because mosr people are pretty helpless while asleep.

Matt's littleone

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 11/4/2008 2:07:03 PM   
opensoul


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Status: offline 		Trust for me has been broken in the past by many and has taken a long time for me to open that vault ! Then I found someone, My Master to trust , for me falling asleep in his arms knowing I will be safe like never before in my life. I release myself totally into his care, for I know He will protect me,even from myself. I never had that before. His control and love let me know even If I ask for something He knows I am not ready for,but he loves, He will protect me till I am ready.

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RE: Ultimate Trust - 11/4/2008 2:55:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		At a large, crowded event recently, I had a hypoglycemic attack. They are rare now (I manage and monitor carefully), but I've had them in the past and I can recognize if it's bad enough to cause me to lose consciousness.
 
When this has happened before, the worst part was my panic and anxiety.
 
This time, Master was there. I did pass out and He was there. It was bad, but I did not panic and was fine.
 
I realized that, although I knew I was going to pass out in public (never a pleasant feeling), I knew, KNEW, He was going to take care of me and that it would be alright.
 
For a person who has experienced panic attacks, to avoid one due only to trust..... Well, it proves to me that my trust in Him goes much deeper than play (even breath play).
 
My trust in Him is at the cellular level. So, yes, I have experienced the "ultimate trust".
 
 
 
***note to SM: to experience the penultimate would be going backwards***- hejira the smartass and lexophile

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