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Phone punishments?? - 12/11/2005 11:53:36 PM

bdsandm

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I'm looking for more punishments to give while talking to my (uncollared) submissive/slave over the phone. We have to be apart a lot and I'm not able to see her as often as we would like. I understand that the punishment needs to fit the crime. But, i'm looking for more ideas. Shes a painslut also.

Things I have already done:

-wash mouth out with soap
- cold showers
- kneeling on rice (this doesnt do much for her. She enjoys the pain so, its "annoying")
-time outs
-masturbating and not being allowed to orgasam
-writing assignments

I need more ideas. Any help would be great!

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 3:19:59 AM

sweetpettjenny

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I can't give you ideas as i am not in your relationship. It sounds as if you have a pretty good start. If she enjoys pain id suggest maybe not doing anything associated with pain perhaps.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 3:51:58 AM

kyraofMists

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First thought that came through my mind is why are you still considering a relationship with someone if you haven't even collared them and you are running out of ideas for punishment?

My Lord and I have known each other for over a year and I have never been punished and that is not because my Lord is lax in his expectations of proper behavior.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 6:18:51 AM

IrishMist

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bdsandm

I'm looking for more punishments to give while talking to my (uncollared) submissive/slave over the phone. We have to be apart a lot and I'm not able to see her as often as we would like. I understand that the punishment needs to fit the crime. But, i'm looking for more ideas. Shes a painslut also.

Things I have already done:

-wash mouth out with soap
- cold showers
- kneeling on rice (this doesnt do much for her. She enjoys the pain so, its "annoying")
-time outs
-masturbating and not being allowed to orgasam
-writing assignments

I need more ideas. Any help would be great!

I would have to question the NEED for punishments. Is he/she so disobediant that punishment would be needed like this? If so, then I would be questioning the commitment. My last Master and I lived in seperate cities, and never was there a question that I would consider disobeying him in something that he asked/demanded while not in his presence. It was always understood between us that while seperated, I would act and behave as if I was at his side; I never felt the need to disrespect him in a way that would require 'punishment'.

I don't know. Maybe everyone has a different view on how they do things, and how things are seen. I mean no disrespect to you or yours. I am just confused as to why it would be needed.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 7:09:42 AM

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I am curious on what is your point is to having the punishments. Personally, if I have to punish one of my girls more than once for particularly "crime" then I would consider it a failure on my part. I believe in changing the behaviors that displeases me and not get locked up in punishing them for those behaviors. Secondly, a submissive/slave that is bound to the Dominant/Master is more afraid of disappointing them than anything.... a great intrinsic motivation that allows for effective behavioral changes..... But only if your clear on what behavior displeases you and what you behavior wish demonstrated instead.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 7:25:00 AM

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If she is still uncollared and yet has misbehaved so much, that you have run out of ideas to punish, maybe you should rethink the relationship. It sounds like there may be bigger problems than just needing more ideas. i was with my last Mistress for 4 years and i can count on one hand the number of times i was punished.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 8:55:42 AM

truesub4u

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bdsandm

I'm looking for more punishments to give while talking to my (uncollared) submissive/slave over the phone. We have to be apart a lot and I'm not able to see her as often as we would like. I understand that the punishment needs to fit the crime. But, i'm looking for more ideas. Shes a painslut also.

My question here is, are you role playing while on the phone. Or is she really misbehaving? While having to be apart and only being able to cumminicate via the interent or phone, is "punishment" being actually more of a test to see how much you really control her while you're away. It's all in how things are worded when asking for advice and ideas.

But then again, I have been known to mis-read an OP once or twice before... LOL

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 9:59:37 AM

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well the profile says he likes to be Daddy and discipline--so My question is that perhaps he just likes to punish---( I had a sub once that I did not accept because he needed constant discipline--I just don't have the head space for it--- not all the time)--in that case he better develop a trick bag of punishments--

Here are a few that might help:

Hanging up in the middle of the call
Blogging
Making them kneel with the phone while you go about your business ( I have a speaker phone and a headset--smiles)
No phone calls for a period of time

Food for thought

edited for typo

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 2:59:13 PM

bdsandm

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She is uncollared and it is somethng we both want. There has been a time or two where we were she forgot something. So, I had to punish. We have been with eachother for a long time but, biz takes me far from her. I'm looking for more ideas while I have her on the phone. All of this is really more for my satisfaction rather a "punishment". I'm just looking for more ideas.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 3:12:21 PM

IrishMist

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quote:

There has been a time or two where we were she forgot something. So, I had to punish

What are the kinds of things she is forgetting? You are being vague here and it's hard to give advice with just the information that you are allowing.

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All of this is really more for my satisfaction rather a "punishment".

I am sorry, but this sits wrong with me. A Master does NOT punish for HIS OWN satisfaction. He punishes because of behavior, in an attempt to change the behavior.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 4:51:56 PM

Prunesquallor

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You were given lots of good advice about your profile picture in another thread, and you chose to ignore that. Why should anybody think that you will take any notice of what they say in this thread?

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 5:10:16 PM

perverseangelic

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

quote:

All of this is really more for my satisfaction rather a "punishment".

I am sorry, but this sits wrong with me. A Master does NOT punish for HIS OWN satisfaction. He punishes because of behavior, in an attempt to change the behavior.

I dunno. Mine "punishes" for his own satisfaction, but when it's something like that we're both very clear it's a "you're a bad, bad girl" scene, where I didn't actually do something wrong.

I guess I'm saying that punishing for satisfaction makes sense, if the person getting punished knows it's play and not behavior modification.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/12/2005 8:25:36 PM

Noah

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Prunesquallor

You were given lots of good advice about your profile picture in another thread, and you chose to ignore that. Why should anybody think that you will take any notice of what they say in this thread?

Good Lord! Yeah, do everything they say or they'll quit telling you how to run your life.

If only

(major props for the rockin name though, prunesquallor.)

So anyway:

You know that kitchen drawer with the potato masher and the funnels and the barbecue fork and stuff? Have her slam her tit in there. But first have her pull the drawer out and soap the slides.

Burny stuff in clever places. Like the eyes (bonus value if you do this in IM chat is you get to critically evaluate her touch-typing skills)

All sorts of self-whacking, but be specific.

Like slam a nipple in the big dictionary, or her ex-husband's coffee table book of earth-moving equipment or The Men of Ballet (this is if she calls you a "dominate")

Pretty much anything involving vomit.

Sleep in the back hallway with the door unlocked.

Wear orange lipstick and (just a) baggy house-dress with coffee stain on the ass for trip to the supemarket. Minumum five seconds of intense, smiling eye contact with each and every stock boy.

Hair brush stuck into tender places. Reverse orientation for second offense.

I think there are some other hair brush things, too (see self-whacking.)

Anything on her "Hates" list (when you're done with that you can start working on the stuff listed below it.)

Stand to pee, no wiping.

Go about her business with her tampon in the wrong orifice. Any wrong orifice will do, actually--especially while she's having the painters in.

I could go on for hours. And I do. Which suggests another great phone punishment: send her the bill. Why should the pro-dommes be the only prostitutes around here?

By the way, that picture kicks ass.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/13/2005 3:05:02 AM

Prunesquallor

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

Good Lord! Yeah, do everything they say or they'll quit telling you how to run your life.

I agree that we shouldn't do what we are told to do. But in this case he went on the forum and specifically asked for advice, and was given it by, as I remember, every single poster. And chose to ignore it.

He is entitled to do so, but it seems pointless to then come on the forums asking for more advice.

Glad you like the name - again, you appear to be in a minority though. :)

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/13/2005 6:49:47 AM

IrishMist

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quote:

I dunno. Mine "punishes" for his own satisfaction, but when it's something like that we're both very clear it's a "you're a bad, bad girl" scene, where I didn't actually do something wrong.

I guess I'm saying that punishing for satisfaction makes sense, if the person getting punished knows it's play and not behavior modification.

This I can understand. But from what the OP said, he was punishing because she constantly forgets things...then goes on to say that its for 'his own satisfaction'.

Which, in my mind, says that the punishments are being handed out for the wrong reason.

Maybe I misread his postings...I don't know.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/13/2005 9:17:51 AM

perverseangelic

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IrishMist

This I can understand. But from what the OP said, he was punishing because she constantly forgets things...then goes on to say that its for 'his own satisfaction'.

Which, in my mind, says that the punishments are being handed out for the wrong reason.

Maybe I misread his postings...I don't know.

I think that he might have been trying to indicate two different kinds of punishment.

But honestly, who knows. The OP was a little confusing to me.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/13/2005 9:21:30 AM

fyreredsub

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clarity of instructions and consistancy....
you are so right, knowing i have caused displ;easure hurts far worse than anything that could be given for punishment....
if i were the op i would wonder if he wasn't involved w/ a sammie

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

I am curious on what is your point is to having the punishments. Personally, if I have to punish one of my girls more than once for particularly "crime" then I would consider it a failure on my part. I believe in changing the behaviors that displeases me and not get locked up in punishing them for those behaviors. Secondly, a submissive/slave that is bound to the Dominant/Master is more afraid of disappointing them than anything.... a great intrinsic motivation that allows for effective behavioral changes..... But only if your clear on what behavior displeases you and what you behavior wish demonstrated instead.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/13/2005 9:25:25 AM

fyreredsub

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so glad to see 'owners' that VALUE their property........LMFAO.(see noted sarcasm(sp cause p/o)).

i dont care who it is,

they put burn stuff in my eyes .............or wish my tit slammed in a drawer---

there would be HELL TO Pay

quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

quote:

ORIGINAL: Prunesquallor

You were given lots of good advice about your profile picture in another thread, and you chose to ignore that. Why should anybody think that you will take any notice of what they say in this thread?

Good Lord! Yeah, do everything they say or they'll quit telling you how to run your life.

If only

(major props for the rockin name though, prunesquallor.)

So anyway:

You know that kitchen drawer with the potato masher and the funnels and the barbecue fork and stuff? Have her slam her tit in there. But first have her pull the drawer out and soap the slides.

Burny stuff in clever places. Like the eyes (bonus value if you do this in IM chat is you get to critically evaluate her touch-typing skills)

All sorts of self-whacking, but be specific.

Like slam a nipple in the big dictionary, or her ex-husband's coffee table book of earth-moving equipment or The Men of Ballet (this is if she calls you a "dominate")

Pretty much anything involving vomit.

Sleep in the back hallway with the door unlocked.

Wear orange lipstick and (just a) baggy house-dress with coffee stain on the ass for trip to the supemarket. Minumum five seconds of intense, smiling eye contact with each and every stock boy.

Hair brush stuck into tender places. Reverse orientation for second offense.

I think there are some other hair brush things, too (see self-whacking.)

Anything on her "Hates" list (when you're done with that you can start working on the stuff listed below it.)

Stand to pee, no wiping.

Go about her business with her tampon in the wrong orifice. Any wrong orifice will do, actually--especially while she's having the painters in.

I could go on for hours. And I do. Which suggests another great phone punishment: send her the bill. Why should the pro-dommes be the only prostitutes around here?

By the way, that picture kicks ass.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/13/2005 9:49:44 AM

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Not eating favorite food.
Having to exersise extra.
having to go to bed early.
wear a butplug even to work.
read somthing extremly boring
Do exstra housework.

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RE: Phone punishments?? - 12/13/2005 11:09:26 AM

Wolf1020

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quote:

so glad to see 'owners' that VALUE their property........LMFAO.(see noted sarcasm(sp cause p/o)).

i dont care who it is,

they put burn stuff in my eyes .............or wish my tit slammed in a drawer---

there would be HELL TO Pay

Agreed. Putting spicy things into area's where there are mucus membranes, such as the eyes, genitals, etc is a bad idea. A little dab of something on the clit or whatever can be good feeling for some people but in general on the eyes and what not is a very bad idea. And slamming a tit in a drawer? Sudden crushing like that is a bad idea, especially in a drawer where there are sharp objects and the like. You going to drive her to the hospital when she impales her breast with something? There is pain and then there is injury, pain is ok, injury is not.

Frankly it goes a lot to the individual submissive. I have known a few who liked pain so much that even as a punishment they just enjoyed it. Figure out what her limits are of things she simply can't handle. Then work within those on things she doesn't like that. Just how much she hates it goes to how sever a punishment would be. One of the best punishments with a lot of submissives is ignoring. Don't neglect, don't break off contact for a month or something. But sometimes not calling for a few days can be effective. As to things that could seriously injure her? Not a good idea. Just remember that punishment is about correcting the submissive, not gaining self satisfaction. I'd gain more self satisfaction in knowing that she respects me enough to not need correction then needing it. And punishment should really be reserved for things done constantly or serious infractions, words are often plenty effective for getting the submissive to know how things should be done.

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