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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/22/2008 10:11:19 PM

UmbraDomina

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Great job Leader, best wishes to you and your family to keep it up. Hopefully the 401k doesn't get spanked by the market.

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/22/2008 10:11:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

woopie for you--what are you doing to help your fellow "man"?

oh I'm sorry, are the low masses supposed to cheer for you?

Why on earth the sarcasm? Is there something you find irritating about someone being happy with their life?

Seems to me that the world would be better off if we all cheered when someone reaches their goals, rather than treating success as an anathema. For that matter, why assume that the OP might not already be helping his "fellow man"? How about the fact that he's not being a burden to society? Do you think that the "low masses" automatically ask, "What's in it for me?"

To be blunt the OP came across as bragging.
It did? I saw it as someone publicly acknowledging how lucky they are in life and who is grateful for the love and happiness they have.

Cats point that I took to heart was big fucking deal. The other point she made was get off your ass and show others how to make thier life easier. Mother Threasa didn't have a dime and look at her body of work. As I've told my kids that I put thru collage. It ain't about money.
Now, if Leadership had started talking about all the altruistic endeavors he may be involved in, that I might see as bragging.

I have the lucky sperm theory. I was born in the US to upper middle class parents who loved me. I had nothing to do with that. I could have been born in say vietnam to pesant farmers striff with civil war that abused me. So don't brag about how great you think you are cuz yer not.
I didn't see one single word in the OP's post that looked like he was bragging about how great he is, only of the type of happiness that inspires people to shout from the rooftops.

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/22/2008 10:18:12 PM

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Sailing Bum,

Considering the bitter excrement you drop into the forums, I think you are the last one to be able to talk shit about someone else.

Having spent the morning at leaderships house using his expensive camera and lighting equipment as well as his time and expertise to take photos for my website, he is a pretty generous person in my view.

Most importantly, it wasn't bragging, his point was that DESPITE his good fortune most of his life, it wasn't money or status that has provided him with his greatest happiness, it is playing with WIIWD that has opened him up to more happiness than he ever expected. Not to put words in his mouth but I think in some ways it was an awkward "thank you" to those who contribute positive things to this forum.

Wow where did that come from??? I guess you don't like my posts lol read my disclaimer. I never implied anything other then he came across as bragging and "everyone" not just him should help ppl all the "way down" the ladder of life. Who fucking knew I would get ripped on for promoting good will towards others. ehh life is strange. btw you did put words in his mouth.

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/22/2008 10:18:39 PM

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that's grand :)

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/22/2008 10:49:09 PM

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Leadership,
Apparently your joy tests the limits of tolerance for some people. Your happiness and contentment with your life is too much for the bitter, jealous, miserable whiny populace. You must apologize at once, and remove that smile from your face! You dare never laugh again, because……..well just because!
Disgruntlement lessons will begin first thing in the morning!

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/22/2008 11:02:23 PM

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catize, have I told you lately I like your postings? And this one, YAY!

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/22/2008 11:13:17 PM

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I feel pretty content these days too... I am getting what I always dreamed of every day. I work in my field, I am getting my secondary education (working on my master's) and I am living with my Daddy.... all things i have wanted for a couple of years now.

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/22/2008 11:19:25 PM

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To the OP. Thank you for sharing your happiness and contentment with us. It is nice to know some people get it right.

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ORIGINAL: WhiplashSmile2

Leadership527,
I some regards I simply get it, that many people have not felt compelled to fit into the norm of what you have. The whole 2.5 kids, a house, a wife, a couple of cars, and being in the middle class. I understand that some people have avoided this type of life like the plauge.

However, some of us have gone through painful things, such a divorces and other series of events. Some of us have been there were you are at, even above it, and have lost it all or walked away from it all.

Personally, I've been up/down a ladder of life. From having not much of anything, to having it all, then not having it all.   In fact a couple of times this has occured in my life.

I can not speak for everybody on here, however some of us, have in fact wanted to have the stability that you managed to achieve. However, it's not always been so easy in our grasp.   Perhaps poor choice of relationship partners, time to pack it in on all the material bullshit and that kind of stability for the sake of our own mental sanity.

In many regards your posting can be taken as a sort of dig or rub it in your face type of posting.

Beware of hidden pain that you might have provoked with a post such as this. For instance I have twin daughters that I'm not an everyday father too. Was not married to their mother, and well.   It's something that I'm not totally happy, proud about and geee... I'm sorry dude, not all of us have had the Leave it Beaver life, with June the wife, two kids, and everything else along with it.   Some of us had to give up houses and home in the middle of seperations/divorces. Have had our dreams broken into 10,000 little pieces...

Your post is almost a sort of insult to injury, or risks being taken as such to some of us. I just thought I'd share a little insight as to how your posting can be taken.

I don't believe it was your intent for your posting to be taken in this fashion... because some people swear off what you have as being the so called conventional life. I have known people in my life that have vowed to never fall into the norms and make what you have as part of their aspirations.   Some of us though, these things are broken painful dreams...   Your post just serves as painful reminder for some people...

I doubt that was the intention of the post and the OP is not responsible for people being reminded of painful things. I am currently going through a dvorce and know exactly what it is to have to give up on dreams that I worked for years to achieve. It does hurt. But seeing or reading about anothers happiness does not make it hurt any more or less, it makes no difference. My life is my own responsibility and the life I have now is entirely due to my own choices. Some people are more fortunate than others in the hand of cards they are dealt. Big deal. That is life.

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 12:51:53 AM

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I love hearing about when people are happy. Thank you for sharing your joy! May your happiness continue, on and on.

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 1:14:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

woopie for you--what are you doing to help your fellow "man"?

oh I'm sorry, are the low masses supposed to cheer for you?

Welcome to the forum CatdeMedici. By the amount of posts you have made, one would make the assumption you are a new poster. Obviously - you may have observed from a distance - we don't know. But if this is a new endeavour for you, you will see in time why leaderships post is very different from the 'norm'.

In general, if you(generic) cannot see by oneself, what someone is doing for their fellow man, then maybe you never will. It's more to do with self realisation and opening ones own eyes to others, rather than having to ask.

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 1:23:53 AM

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Cool beans Leadership!!

I for one would rather rub elbows with someone who is satisfied ...not to mention tickeld pink by the good fortune life and living well has brought them.

Otherwise i am dumb struck by the sour apples stuck in others mouths ....geeez get a life!

cyn

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 6:13:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

woopie for you--what are you doing to help your fellow "man"?

He contributes in a positive and wonderful way to these forums helping to bring about a sense of peace and serenity to a great many people who would otherwise be fraught with self-doubt and frustration.

What do you do?

Brava....i have followed Leadership's posts from my first days here and i have yet to disagree with at least the basis of his opinion of whatever matter. Not only am i glad that he is content and proud of his current situation, but i expected nothing close to less than that from him. If he were dissatisfied with any part of his life, i would only expect to hear a thread about his plan to solve the problem...not a lament about issues that only confound 6 year olds.
Leadership, if you can do it...so can i. Thank you.

*deep bow*

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 6:35:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

woopie for you--what are you doing to help your fellow "man"?

oh I'm sorry, are the low masses supposed to cheer for you?

Why on earth the sarcasm? Is there something you find irritating about someone being happy with their life?

Seems to me that the world would be better off if we all cheered when someone reaches their goals, rather than treating success as an anathema. For that matter, why assume that the OP might not already be helping his "fellow man"? How about the fact that he's not being a burden to society? Do you think that the "low masses" automatically ask, "What's in it for me?"

To be blunt the OP came across as bragging. Cats point that I took to heart was big fucking deal. The other point she made was get off your ass and show others how to make thier life easier. Mother Threasa didn't have a dime and look at her body of work. As I've told my kids that I put thru collage. It ain't about money.

I have the lucky sperm theory. I was born in the US to upper middle class parents who loved me. I had nothing to do with that. I could have been born in say vietnam to pesant farmers striff with civil war that abused me. So don't brag about how great you think you are cuz yer not.

BadOne

i'm sorry - i think you both have piss-poor attitudes. Someone who's made themselves comfortable in life by working hard has absolutely NO responsibility to help anyone. People need to learn to get up off their sorry asses and do for themselves before they expect anyone to do for them. i can say this as i'm one of those who has and still is doing for herself. The saying "Charity begins at home." rings true for some of us and we don't run around looking for handouts. That's great that you feel the need to help others - that doesn't mean it's automatically someone else's "need" as well.

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 6:53:01 AM

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OP, I'm glad you recognize your success while you're there! Enjoying what you have, and the journey as well.

A month before 9/11, I was breadwinner and highly paid techie, telecommuting from one state to another, earning upper middle class money, happily married and enjoying life as I had arranged it. I turned 50, bought my stock options, then 9/11 happened. No, the bottom didn't drop out of my world right then. It waited a month…until I had a stroke, that has permanently disabled me for any day job, put me living on disability, and, alas, a few years into recovery, caused me to relinquish the marriage in which I could no longer communicate. (No pity party here, just facts.)

I'm still discovering who I am and how I function now—rather a surprise to need to do that sort of (traditionally adolescent) self-examination at midlife. (I'd already done my re-discovery of self at age 42 onward…the answer is 42.) But what amused me the most, really, is that it took me five full years post-stroke to recognize that I had been retired by the stroke. So, I threw my recovered self a belated retirement party, and have continued my voyage towards being me.

Fortunately, it's a lot of fun.

Lady Delilah Deb

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 7:02:01 AM

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Leadership - thank you for the wonderful and uplifting post. I am also at a place right now where I am feeling that life is very good, and I appreciated your joke about the "regular" threads. I think it's important that we take the time to say something positive. Sometimes that in itself is a huge service to our little community here, just to let people know that there are wonderful relationships and very fulfilled people in the lifestyle. Bravo!

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 7:04:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: leadership527
a hefty 401k

Getting thinner and thinner every day...my 401k is down 37% and counting

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 7:18:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: CatdeMedici

woopie for you--what are you doing to help your fellow "man"?

oh I'm sorry, are the low masses supposed to cheer for you?

There was a point, when my saplings were young, that I was among the "low masses" you speak of. We recycled everything we could find in the desert from two liter bottles to bullet shells just so we could have treats to snack on while watching football on the single channel we had. The saplings found fun things to do with scrapes of wood and we kept cool with spray bottles... that too was one of the best times in my life. Don't speak from where you don't know. Anyone can be happy with what they have and how they live no matter what their income or social status is. As Rover said "There's no better place to live than in the present. :)

I cheer for him... finding true and absolute happiness is awesome!!!

Jewel

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 7:21:47 AM

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I cannot believe no one has called forth the dancing banana!!!

And to ward off the poopheads..... I'll throw in a dancing pineapple!!!

Nothing says happiness like dancing fruit.

Best wishes to you and yours leadership!

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 7:24:58 AM

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YAYs! I thought that my 40s would suck and they have been the best time of my life! Glad to see that they are being kind to you too!

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RE: Nothing and everything - 10/23/2008 7:32:21 AM

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To those who read this post as a "go me" post, it really wasn't intended to be that way and I'm genuinely sorry for that. It really was just as simple as realizing in the grocery store parking lot that my very ordinary life (complete with two divorces and two associated financial meltdowns and other assorted misery) had kind of suddenly come up all aces -- relationship wise, not financially -- and I was having an OMG moment.

@SimplyMichael: Actually, the really funny thing is that I hadn't even thought of the financial part as "good fortune". I saw it as pretty mediocre providing a plain and unadorned setting for the sparkling jewel in my life which is Carol. In reviewing this, I think WhipLash might've been right that given the possible spread of finances across the internet, it was probably insensitive to post such things. Honestly, I hadn't thought about "thank you" since it was, as I said, a pretty simple "OMG" moment. But the "Thank you" sentiment is also perfectly appropriate.

To everyone here who has shared a bit of themselves, and in that sharing, helped me to understand this incredibly weird yet wonderful thing that has happened in my life... to everyone that has taken the trouble to argue me to the ground on some point... to everyone who's life is not at all like mine and in exposing those differences has helped me to learn about myself... Thank you.

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