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Coupleofwhats -> Shell of an idea (10/23/2008 10:39:58 PM)

So, I've gotten into having submissives crawl around on their hands and knees. I was already binding their fists shut with saran wrap or ace bandages, so that it's mildly uncomfortable to get around. But I want to do something to hurt their knees too...

Kneepads with packets of hard beads attached to the inside?
The old-fashioned uncooked rice on the floor (kinda messy!)

Anybody have any other ideas?



Venatrix -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/23/2008 10:41:32 PM)

Used cat litter?



Coupleofwhats -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/23/2008 10:45:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

Used cat litter?


Hmm.
There would be logistical problems: I don't have a cat. And cat urine stinks to high heaven, so importing it would be horrific.

Maybe unused would work. The really icky brands have pretty sharp gravelly things.



FullfigRIMaam -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/23/2008 10:55:18 PM)

I was going to say rice, or little rocks/sand from the beach than have them vacum, but have nothing else.   M



Venatrix -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/23/2008 11:02:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Coupleofwhats

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

Used cat litter?


Hmm.
There would be logistical problems: I don't have a cat. And cat urine stinks to high heaven, so importing it would be horrific.

Maybe unused would work. The really icky brands have pretty sharp gravelly things.


I know where you can find a large quantity of used cat litter, cheap [:D].  I was actually joking about using it.  Cat litter can cut the skin.  It might be better as a mindfuck, particularly the "used" part.



Coupleofwhats -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/23/2008 11:05:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

quote:

ORIGINAL: Coupleofwhats

quote:

ORIGINAL: Venatrix

Used cat litter?


Hmm.
There would be logistical problems: I don't have a cat. And cat urine stinks to high heaven, so importing it would be horrific.

Maybe unused would work. The really icky brands have pretty sharp gravelly things.


I know where you can find a large quantity of used cat litter, cheap [:D]. I was actually joking about using it. Cat litter can cut the skin. It might be better as a mindfuck, particularly the "used" part.


Never joke with me about doing mean things! I will think it's a GREAT idea. :)
Anything sharper than rice would need to be padded. I don't mind a teeny bit of blood, but I don't want anyone gushing all over the floor.



headdownbottomup -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/23/2008 11:13:23 PM)

i have had a golf ball  tied around my knee's   they do make a boy feel the pressure and very compliant and eager to do his best at whatever chore he is given



SnowRanger -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 4:25:54 AM)

Sheeesh!  My knees hurt bad enough already.



MsStarlett -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 4:47:47 AM)

Gees!  I'm with Snow.  My knees hurt just reading this.  But then, just getting down on my knees to straighten merchandise at my shop is painful enough on a concrete floor....

Actually, I was concerned about your floor coverings.  Unless you have a concrete floor, many things that would be painful for your boy would also be very abrasive to your flooring.  Boys heal.  Hard wood is expensive!



OneMoreWaste -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 6:12:01 AM)

Honestly, after only a half-hour or so of crawling, my knees hurt like a bastard even without added torment- either soreness from repeated contact of barely-padded bone on a hard floor, or carpet burns.

My suggestion would be more along the lines of the hand-taping. Have them kneel, ass on their heels. Wrap a length of rope or an elastic bandage tightly around their thigh and ankle, binding their leg into the bent position. The resulting position makes crawling more awkward, and will put the weight more squarely on their kneecaps. It also makes it more awkward to move from sitting or laying down to crawling, and obviously keeps them from standing up. Makes it a bit harder to swat them on the ass, but a crop across the sole of the foot can be quite attention-getting as well.



zakkan -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 6:24:02 AM)

You could get one of these foot reflexology stones strips: Link

They really hurt.



Venatrix -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 6:52:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Coupleofwhats

I don't mind a teeny bit of blood, but I don't want anyone gushing all over the floor.



Oh, just have him clean it up.  He can go to the emergency room later.  On a slightly more reasonable note, what about filling knee pads with something like dried lentils or chickpeas?



Coupleofwhats -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 7:40:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MsStarlett

Gees! I'm with Snow. My knees hurt just reading this. But then, just getting down on my knees to straighten merchandise at my shop is painful enough on a concrete floor....

Actually, I was concerned about your floor coverings. Unless you have a concrete floor, many things that would be painful for your boy would also be very abrasive to your flooring. Boys heal. Hard wood is expensive!



It wouldn't be something I'd do to clients, but my submissive is still under 30: his knees are a go for punishment!

Good point about the floor though...



Coupleofwhats -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 7:41:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: zakkan

You could get one of these foot reflexology stones strips: Link

They really hurt.



Ooo... that's an idea!



Coupleofwhats -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 7:46:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: OneMoreWaste

Honestly, after only a half-hour or so of crawling, my knees hurt like a bastard even without added torment- either soreness from repeated contact of barely-padded bone on a hard floor, or carpet burns.

My suggestion would be more along the lines of the hand-taping. Have them kneel, ass on their heels. Wrap a length of rope or an elastic bandage tightly around their thigh and ankle, binding their leg into the bent position. The resulting position makes crawling more awkward, and will put the weight more squarely on their kneecaps. It also makes it more awkward to move from sitting or laying down to crawling, and obviously keeps them from standing up. Makes it a bit harder to swat them on the ass, but a crop across the sole of the foot can be quite attention-getting as well.



Interesting idea... I've done that tie before, but always left him on his back for it.



undergroundsea -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 8:08:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CoupleofwhatsI don't mind a teeny bit of blood, but I don't want anyone gushing all over the floor.


So beer bottle caps and thumbtacks are out? ;-)

Cheers,

Sea



undergroundsea -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 8:14:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix
It might be better as a mindfuck, particularly the "used" part.


Or it could be used by a human instead of a cat ;-)

I think the kneepad idea is more practical. The type of flooring also matters. Increasing the weight by sitting closer to the tail of the back, or, if circumstances allow, standing on calves with hands resting on the sub's hips (as if standing and riding a chariot) would increase the discomfort.

Cheers,

Sea



hopelesslyInvo -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 11:44:49 AM)

if you tie their ankles together and they don't have the upper muscle to lift both legs at once [talk about looking odd], they'll probably have to drag their knees; aka incoming carpet burns.  as far as knees go, that's about as bad as can be done in my opinion.  i'd rather hit my shin into a coffee table at a mild sprint than deal with a carpet burn.

if no carpet is there however, and it's just hardwood or something, walking on your knees in general is going to hurt.



OneMoreWaste -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 6:18:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Coupleofwhats
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ORIGINAL: OneMoreWaste
My suggestion would be more along the lines of the hand-taping. Have them kneel, ass on their heels. Wrap a length of rope or an elastic bandage tightly around their thigh and ankle, binding their leg into the bent position. The resulting position makes crawling more awkward, and will put the weight more squarely on their kneecaps. It also makes it more awkward to move from sitting or laying down to crawling, and obviously keeps them from standing up. Makes it a bit harder to swat them on the ass, but a crop across the sole of the foot can be quite attention-getting as well.



Interesting idea... I've done that tie before, but always left him on his back for it.


An extension of that idea (I'm not at my most brainsicle in the morning) is to do the same with his arms- tying his hands to his shoulders (bandage or tape works best for that). The resulting kneecaps-and-elbows crawl requires a lot of wriggling full-body motion, and is fairly stressful to do for any period of time.

I've seen photo sites add an ass hook tied off to the hair as well, to hold the head upright... certainly something to consider if you have one hanging about [:)]



HandSolo -> RE: Shell of an idea (10/24/2008 6:22:30 PM)

Office supply stores sell hard plastic mats, so one can roll a chair around a carpeted floor. The underside is sort of spiked, to keep it from wandering. Cut into kneepads (and/or gloves...) and tape into place. Sounds like a rough day.



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