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RE: Living document ? - 10/29/2008 11:08:42 AM

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....so if someone has the constitution tattooed on their body it's a living document, but if it's on paper it isn't?

i may have misunderstood.......

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RE: Living document ? - 10/29/2008 11:09:42 AM

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Regarding a "Christian nation" the Treaty of Tripoli is clear on this, in clause 11 I think. Negotiated in the Washington admin. and ratified by 100% of the Senate during the Adams admin. Clause 11 says, in essence, the United Sates is in no way a Christian nation.

My view is that the the constitution is living only to the extent that the process for altering it is adhered to. All branches of the government have disregarded the disabilities imposed by it, and the processes for properly and lawfully altering the supreme law of the land have largely been discarded.

I look now to an eloquent quote by Lysander Spooner:

"Constitutions are utterly worthless to restrain the tyranny of governments, unless it be understood that the people will, by force, compell the government to keep within constitutional limits. Practically speaking, no government knows any limits to its power, except the endurance of the people. But that the people are stronger than the government, and will resist in extreme cases, our governemnts would be little or nothing else than organized systems of plunder and oppression."

This also from Patrick Henry:

"The constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government,lest it come to dominate our lives and interests."

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RE: Living document ? - 10/29/2008 11:12:23 AM

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Mr R,

I got to thinking. The finance mess has very little to do with house mortgages. Think about it.

Once the public accepted that a large number of homes were over financed- then that is now prevailing wisdon, (gag) but when you factor in the 660 trillion $ dirivatives market- the home loan is not even close. lets place that number at 5 tillion. that leaves 655 trillion $ that have nothing to do with houses. even if you factor it at much more- there is a huge gap in the remaining money.

how conVENNNNNNNNNNNIENT ? ay?

so lier loans and CA prices are not the real problem, only a screen so that we dont see the gambling ....
which on contracts- easy just void them. the forclosure mess is only a small fraction which hides the casino-ing of empire...and if you think about it- it can only end in nukes....... based on the law makers as I see it today 2008

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