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Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 12:11:51 PM   
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We decided not to do Rome in the end. Paris was suggested for the week but that too was rejected, for similar reasons - not easy to justify the expense, when you might have to lose 20% of your workforce next month.

So, we decided on a two day trip to Portsmouth, mainly because neither of us had been there and it would help out on someone's school project about Henry VIII's flagship the Mary Rose too.

The four of us left bright and early Monday in the Jag, having booked the family room at the fabulous Queens Hotel on the seafront for the evening. Going on a trip with my ex and our offspring and sharing a room raised some eyebrows amongst those members (both of them) of the extended family that have a problem with me, but so what - lots of friends share rooms dont they?

Monday afternoon we booked in and took a walk to the Spinaker Tower - which turned out to be over a mile from the hotel, though it had looked closer! We didnt get up the tower though - for one there was a 45 minute queue and for two it was surrounded by lots of good shopping and for three there was a huge navy ship to watch as it was tugged out to sea. Monday night we ate out at the same spot.

Tuesday morning we set off the dockyards to see the Mary Rose. Having seen it raised from the seabed back in the 80s (I ducked out of class registration at school to watch it in the computer room - single - the school had) it was amazing to see what had been a crumple of wood on a platform, looking as it should. Even through glass and a heavy mist of water and wax being sprayed to preserve it, it was a sight to see.

But then - having walked past her on the way to see Mary Rose we went straight outside to see on board what is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen - Victory.

Pictures simply do not do her justice. Absolutely amazing is all I can say - she is huge, roomy, exquisitely built and appointed - absolutely amazing.

If anyone has the opportunity, I cant recommend highly enough a visit to the dockyards - our family ticket (valid 12 months) was £51-50, but the price is worth it simply for the amazing experience of seeing Victory and touring her from top to bottom and bow to stern - how mankind could have produced such a wonder, in the pre-industrial age at that is absolutely amazing. 

We had to confess - there was a lot more to do in Portsmouth than we had allowed time for. As it was we spent six hours in the dockyard and still didnt see some of it - particularly the Warrior, but we were all tired and cold and had to get home. We shall definitely be going down again soon!

E

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 12:51:53 PM   
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Every time I go to England I plan to get to Portsmouth to see the Victory but things have always come up. I hope you and yours had fun.

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 12:58:48 PM   
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My gob was utterly smacked Ken - we had fun on the trip alright, but seeing that ship - wow!

E

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 1:00:49 PM   
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Hi there LadyEllen,

I am so glad to hear you had a great trip!  I have always been sad that I never got to see Victory when I was living in the UK! 

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 1:09:03 PM   
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Thanks Puella!

as an aside to the story, there was a concern about whether the hotel would let us book in - some can be awkward about things - but they didnt say a word and we had no reason to present our cover story; that she and I were sisters in law and not lesbians and certainly not an (as yet still) married couple!

also have to say theyre a very friendly and polite lot in Portsmouth - took me aback I must say to have strangers wishing me good morning and wanting to chat; youre lucky to get a grunt out of people where I live (and if youre unlucky a smack in the face), for as much as looking at them!

E

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 1:32:38 PM   
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Supposedly we are nothing but friendly towns- coughs-  it always sounds rosey in the brochure.

It sounds lovely to escape to a different area.  :-)

Im glad you got away and had a great time.

oops-  you forgot to take me tho.!!       ;-0

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 2:15:55 PM   
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Thanks Puella!

as an aside to the story, there was a concern about whether the hotel would let us book in - some can be awkward about things - but they didnt say a word and we had no reason to present our cover story; that she and I were sisters in law and not lesbians and certainly not an (as yet still) married couple!

also have to say theyre a very friendly and polite lot in Portsmouth - took me aback I must say to have strangers wishing me good morning and wanting to chat; youre lucky to get a grunt out of people where I live (and if youre unlucky a smack in the face), for as much as looking at them!

E

Does the UK allow discrimination in accomodations? I thought that had gotten sorted out a while back.

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 2:39:57 PM   
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Hi Lady E

I've only been to England once, and I didn't make it to Portsmouth.  In comparison to the sailing vessels from that era that I've visited on our side of the pond such as the Charles W. Morgan, the Constitution, and several smaller and more modern vessels (replicas of the Santa Maria and the Bounty in recent years), I'm sure the Victory was a most imposing sight!  However, when on your side of the pond, I did make it to Greenwich before the Cutty Sark burned, and she was indeed a lovely ship, albeit a touch more modern than the Victory.


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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 3:11:19 PM   
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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 4:30:56 PM   
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LadyE: I carnt tell you how pleased I am that you enjoyed your trip to see the Mary Rose.

However I have to say that you should  thank your lucky stars that 'Enery V111 never clapped eyes on you.
I dread to think what might have happened.

I think we would still control the USA and the world would be a better place The Brits are cummin' hehehehehe

I see you actually visited the Victory. Well I have had a drink or two and I thought the Victory was a Vauxhall car.
Anyway after Nelson had stopped kissing Hardy I think he would have pointed his telescope at you.
I send you the Agincourt Archers two fingered salute.

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 5:05:20 PM   
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I agree, Victory is a heartbreaker. I have seen her a few times and she always moves me to tears, you can feel the history just by looking at her.

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/29/2008 7:00:10 PM   
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Thank you for mentioning this. Just looked up the site, http://www.hms-victory.com/, and find the pictures of her breathtaking.

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/30/2008 4:31:38 AM   
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Thanks celeste for putting the site up. Beautiful ship.

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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/30/2008 5:05:17 AM   
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If you ever get to go to Stockholm in Sweden, you just have to see the VASA, it is a complete ship and very eerie, the water darkened timber and all those gargoyles carved into the structure, typical scandinavian art of the time. In fact the first time I saw it, I saw the ship's gargoyle carved beak all dark at night, the gargoyles highlighted with green light, it sent a shiver up my spine.

http://www.vasamuseet.se/InEnglish/about.aspx

In fact, Stockholm is a very beautiful city and well worth the visit.


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RE: Victory, our trip to Portsmouth (England, that is) - 10/30/2008 5:48:16 AM   
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Hi Ken - it was in the news about some gay couple being refused but I'm not sure what happened next? I guess it makes me lazy and complacent that I dont get anyone paying me any heed wherever I go, so I dont keep up with important stuff so well! The point remains though that had they got awkward, then it would have taken a long time to sort out (much longer than our trip overall) and in any case if they had shown an attitude I wouldnt have wanted to stay there anyway.

Hi Seeks - Henry VIII was at the museum and he very much did clap eyes on me, staring at what was rather a large codpiece. Luckily though he was just a mannequin so his movement and ability to do much with me was somewhat limited. I hear several of his wives had a similar problem with the real thing.

E

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