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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 12/16/2005 11:58:05 PM   
imtempting


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Ive not read all the replies but as a female dominant I once knew said to me.

If you misbehave once you get in trouble, a few more times in trouble within a very short time span... After that then the whole Ds thing will be put on hold as you have to think. Do I really want to obey or Am I just wanting pain?

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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/1/2006 7:20:29 AM   
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Hm I have a shocking habit of 'testing the waters' with new men I meet.  I will act like a complete shyte just to see what they do.  If they are blissfully unaware that I am doing anything out of the ordinary .. generally they are not for me.  I am a bit of an attention seeker (shock horror) and like to feel wanted, and I suppose when someone realises I am acting up and reacts accordingly, it proves to me that they are paying attention to me .. (does that make sense .. ).  I tend to get bored if I am with someone who never Dom's in ANY way.  I don't want someone who micro-manages me, but I DO want a dominant man .. or I wouldn't be here.

There are lots of ways to be dominant other than with impliments.  The 2 best ways ever of showing dominance (IMHO) are 'the voice' and 'the look' .. if either were used, I knew I was in deep doo doo. 

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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/1/2006 7:28:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pimpernell

Most people assume anyone with basic manners is a 'nice guy'(wimp), and are shocked when they stand up for themselves.

How do subs and slaves respond to Masters who are like zen masters rather than those who try to break you like they do horses? (no offence to ponyslaves)

Do you lose interest unless a Dom is Masterful to the point of being an a-hole in the very first meeting?

Can you tell the difference between a gentleman and a wimp at first meeting, or do you not know until you challenge him and he sets you straight?


I'll take the nice guy/gentleman first and foremost. The day he becomes an asshole....(towards me)..... is the day I walk away.

Edited to add... I think anyone who raises a dead horse thread.. that's over 6 months old.. should state so ... I just seen this thread is dated 12/05... LOL
Thanks original...


< Message edited by truesub4u -- 8/1/2006 7:30:15 AM >


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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/2/2006 8:13:48 PM   
babysburnin


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I personally respect my Dom because he can be a gentle friend or a firm Dom.  HE has much more than "basic manners" - HE treats me like a lady.  I laugh at those who view this as wimpy ... this is THE MOST MANLY thing possible in my opinion.

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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/2/2006 9:26:29 PM   
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I do not see nice as a "wimpy" trait at all. Quite the opposite, I see those that are mean as usually the weaker side of humanity.

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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/2/2006 11:10:06 PM   
Pimpernell


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quote:

ORIGINAL: truesub4u

Edited to add... I think anyone who raises a dead horse thread.. that's over 6 months old.. should state so ... I just seen this thread is dated 12/05... LOL
Thanks original...



Yet, if people create a new thread on the topic they pounced on by people saying there is already existing threads on the subject.  Plus, my thoughts are timeless so are worth keeping alive.

(sorry can't find the Smiley for inflated ego).
I like to check in from time to time to see what has been posted.

I don't pull chairs back etc... But, for the right girl I might.  If she had proven to me she was a Lady.  Which is just a rare quality as being a gentleman.

My basic philosophy is be nice/polite to people as a default, be nicer to people as they earn it, and to not waste time on people who are inconsiderate or rude.  That said I do swear at people who drive through red lights and hit pedestrians who are crossing on the green light.  Some behaviour I just don't tolerate. 

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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/4/2006 8:21:44 AM   
original_sin


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quote:

Edited to add... I think anyone who raises a dead horse thread.. that's over 6 months old.. should state so ... I just seen this thread is dated 12/05... LOL
Thanks original...



I honestly didn't realise .. lol .. I have corresponded with Pimpernell and just did a search to see what threads he had posted on (I am NOT a stalker .... much) and didn't even think to look at the date on the thread .. so yes .. thus explains this being dredged up .. *rambles off somewhere else* 

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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/4/2006 9:26:04 AM   
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quote:

Do you lose interest unless a Dom is Masterful to the point of being an a-hole in the very first meeting?

Can you tell the difference between a gentleman and a wimp at first meeting, or do you not know until you challenge him and he sets you straight?


I would have had no interest if my Dom had started out by being an a-hole or any kind of "tough" guy bossing me around. He has always been a gentleman from the beginning. He is no wimp and very capable of getting exactly what he wants from me.

He is interesting because about a month ago he decided it was time to become more dominant with me and he had some rules that I was going to have to follow. OK, I steeled myself for what I thought would be "get on my knees" and serve my Master kind of rules. But, no that wasn't it. My two new rules were that I was NOT to open any doors for myself and I was NOT to carry up any packages, like groceries, from the car.

Another rule that was in place but has been more strictly inforced is that if I cook a meal I don't do the dishes. That is his job and woe is me if I even help by clearing the table. My Dom has explained to me that these rules are in place to teach me that I am not responsible for everything that goes on, which is something I was used to feeling. And secondly that if something pleases him it is my job to just accept it and obey.

So, I will take my gentleman Dom who opens doors, does dishes, and carries up the groceries. My red tush when I have broken these rules more then shows that he is no wimp. OH, and today I have to do the dishes because he is the one cooking. God I love my life!!!

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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/4/2006 3:28:04 PM   
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:) - Happy Pita!

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RE: Gentlemen vs Nice Guy - 8/4/2006 8:20:41 PM   
Pimpernell


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Littlepita

My Dom has explained to me that these rules are in place to teach me that I am not responsible for everything that goes on, which is something I was used to feeling. And secondly that if something pleases him it is my job to just accept it and obey.

These are words I will remember well.  I've had a incident where a then girlfriend cooked and got very upset when I tried to help with the dishes.  She considered it part of pleasing her man, but I felt very uncomfortable as I like to reciprocate.  I now know the words to deal with future incidents if I saw it was a problem, eg she was getting stressed too much over everything.

Thanks, Littlepita.

quote:

ORIGINAL: original_sin

quote:

Edited to add... I think anyone who raises a dead horse thread.. that's over 6 months old.. should state so ... I just seen this thread is dated 12/05... LOL
Thanks original...



I honestly didn't realise .. lol .. I have corresponded with Pimpernell and just did a search to see what threads he had posted on (I am NOT a stalker .... much) and didn't even think to look at the date on the thread .. so yes .. thus explains this being dredged up .. *rambles off somewhere else*

Yeah.  I checked back on a couple of threads I'd posted to and saw your name straight after my posts.  It's okay, it's nice to know who you are messaging with.  *Runs for the block user button*.


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