corysub
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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf
Uhhh... I may not like Obama's policy suggestions and ideals but they are far from Socialist Marxist. Comparing his comments on putting the taxes on +250K a year incomes, back to the 90's tax is not redistribution as explained in any Marxist document you care to read. The comparison would be similar to saying that a canary and a duck both have feathers so the canary must be a duck.
Secondly, you should look closer to many politicians for the "terrorist" connections you wish to speak of. How many of them have close ties to Saudi's and others that are linked to terrorism? So that is a stretch, and a good example of truth distortion.
Capitalism did not seem to work great to bail out much of the mortgage and financial sector. If it did work those institutions should have closed shop. As far as the bail out, both major parties voted for it so it has nothing to do with just Obama or Just McCain.
If you do not like Obama for certain things, then state those things in realistic terms not exaggerated and distorted terms. Otherwise you just portray a bad image of yourself, and those that support your cause.
If the majority of Americans want a more socialist government, then the elections will show that.
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ORIGINAL: Battlehammer
Obama is a Socialist Marxist. No matter how you try to hide it, he also has ties to terrorists. Socialism was tried when this country was first formed, it failed. How ignorant can you be not to see that capitalism works and works great if government is kept out of it. The ecconomy has fallen to due to crooked and corrupt lenders and their stupid practices. They should of all been allowed to fail and jailed. If you start a business and make poor monetary decisions do you think the government willl or should bail you out? No it should not. Democrats running congress now have decided wrongly to bail those crooks that support them out and they should be thrown out. Those who vote for Obama and his Socialistic and Marxist ideals are not only ignorant but foolish as well!
Great idea...lets get real here! Firstly, Obama's cut off point for "tax benefits"...is a moving target DOWN. His latest number was $200M, his VP thinks it probably is about $100M below that...and the REAL deal here is that whatever the number is it will bear no relation ship, should he win, to the final legislation passed by Pelosi/Reid and sent up to the President. If anyone does not believe that, there is a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan that has been bought a few times buy such people. Obama is editing his "words" every day to please the crowds with his charismatic, smooth voice, and a worried mass of people are lapping it up seeking "change"...but having no idea what kind of change is coming under an Obama administration.
As far as "terrorist connections"...I'm not thrilled either with the support Saudi Arabia gives to terrorists. I have not heard the "uproar" from the democrats or republicans on this, other than some op-ed commentary or a story on page five.
However, we are not talking about personal friends but government/government relationships. The King of Saudi Arabia is not on the board of directors of organizations with political leaders in the U.S. However, Bill Ayers, now known as a good friend of Obama's, who was first described as "a guy in the neighborhood, until the truth was told,DID bomb police stations, government buildings, and the Weathermen were building a bomb that thankfully killed a few of them before it could be set off in nearby Fort Dix during a social for young troopers. It's quite a stretch to compare Saudi Arabia connection with Obama's Ayers friendship...dontcha think? Great bedfellow for a future President, along with his hate America pastor, and convicted felon real estate pal. By the way, such "sound and fury from the media over Cheney endorsing McCain...but nothing said of the "Weathermen" endorsement of Obama....maybe because it was expected?? I also understand that Obama did not ASK for this endorsement, and neither did McCain for Cheney's.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76758
As far as being "real"...I don't think it's realistic to imagine closing down FannieMae or FreddieMac...do you? Both insitutions hold over $5 trillion in mortgages...I don't think you can just turn off the lights, lock the doors and leave.
As far as "Capitalism not working"...the markets are already correcting the excess which is what free markets do... In Calfornia, for example, where "the median price is down 33% from a year ago, sales rose 65% amid bargain hunting; half of September's home sales are foreclosures".
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-fi-homes21-2008oct21,0,5677248.story
< Message edited by corysub -- 11/3/2008 12:46:38 AM >
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