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WannaSPOON -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 11:50:21 AM)
I try my damndest to avoid these things. I read profiles and try to either make a personal comment about them and give some sort of conversation lead-in, but I've found the aforementioned difficulty in getting responses. I've started to get lazy and unless it's someone I can tell will be very interesting, I've started putting in less and less effort. It won't ever get to the dreaded one-liner because I loath what my peers call English; the inability to properly form ideas into sentences is astounding, but such is the "digital age." Text messaging has single-handedly destroyed spelling as far as I'm concerned and though they can communicate, the eloquence is long gone.

sweetNsassyPGH -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 2:04:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Guys on here usually don't get an answer no matter if they spend an hour reading profile, journal, forum postings, and then crafting a personalized letter. If you commonly did all that work and got nothing for it, wouldn't you stop bothering also? The odds are bad enough for male doms, for male subs it's like winning the lottery - damn near impossible. So why waste your time when you'll get the same answer? When I was on here before, under another name, I got alot of messages from Doms who said they read my profile, yet they didnt seem to respect or understand or care what I had written. Similar to my profile NOW, I am fairly clear about what I want and what I dont want.. For example, IF a sadistic Dom writes me, esp. if he gets graphic about how he will beat me or tie me down and use me, etc... why would I respond... or even HOW would I respond... LOL.. given what MY profile says...???.. I woiuld not expect an answer if I wrote to a Dom, if I dont meet HIS criteria or his limits, etc. If he wants a tall redhead, who is a masochist, and I write him, being a short brunette who is only into sensusous play... why would I expect him to waste his time replying, unless HE was curious and willing to change what he wanted... If not, its a waste of time for him... Likewise, its a waste of MY time to reply to everyone who responds if they dont match me in any way. Though Im not getting any replies now... LOL.. so I guess not even the wannabees or wankers like what I have in my profile now...

hopelessfool -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 2:11:16 PM)
Last time I checked, in real life when someone came up you to say they were interested they didnt have to spout of 20 personal things they noticed about you, in fact when the do its considered creepy and stalkerish. Why would do you treat how you would approach someone online differently from real life? Sometimes all thats needed is one line, hell half the time words arent even needed just body language...

Lilith13 -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 4:05:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WidowSpiders Sadly, making a post on this board is like preaching to the choir. The majority of people here seem to be eloquent and thoughtful. Ugh. That said... Care to speculate as to why the vast majority of people on this site send one-lines and form letters? To those who have done so, have you found more or less success with those forms of communication? By coincidence, just last night I received a one-liner that got right to my core. It said exactly the right thing--like the sender knew the code. That's pretty rare, but the others are easy to dismiss--no big deal. I don't even bother to get annoyed with them. If it doesn't move me, then it's easy to delete it and move on.

BeIgnited -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 4:24:09 PM)
quote: e things. I read profiles and try to either make a personal comment about them and give some sort of conversation lead-in, but I've found the aforementioned difficulty in ge quote: ORIGINAL: hopelessfool Last time I checked, in real life when someone came up you to say they were interested they didnt have to spout of 20 personal things they noticed about you, in fact when the do its considered creepy and stalkerish. Why would do you treat how you would approach someone online differently from real life? Sometimes all thats needed is one line, hell half the time words arent even needed just body language... True, (and I realize this was in response to someone else), but I find that I am equally bored by someone who approaches me in real life with "hi" "how are you?" "you're pretty" and little else. Sure, it's nice, and I'm likely to respond politely (both online and off), but I don't find it very engaging if it doesn't go anywhere from there. I do agree with you in some respects though--I'll take a poignant one liner over someone's life story any day.

Monkeyontuesday -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 4:58:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: antipode There are two reasons. One is the one other have mentioned. The second (an this is from my own research, and that of colleagues, in a telecommunications lab) is that there is now an entire generation that grew up with the PC and on the Interweb [;)], and communicates almost exclusively online. I've seen a similar phenomenon in the corporation (300,000 employees), when we introduced all-electronic communications, and phased in online conferencing, and IM, on top of the Lotus Notes that was already there. It turns out that specifically the youngsters multitask enormously, in ways that did not exist before. A teenager will eat, study, IM on the PC, and text on the cell, all at the same time. Those of you who have kids (I am saying this for the benefit of those who don't, and those outside of North America) are familiar with teenagers having conversations on both lines of the call waiting simultaneously - this has only gotten more intense. So at leat some of the onliners are caused by their "need for speed" - for them, a oneliner is a sentence in a conversation. Look at some of the postings by 18 year olds here - they don't write, they converse, so, for them, a single sentence "probe", to see what comes back, or just a sentence in a conversation, is totally normal. They just have too much to do, and too many people to communicate with. You think it is rude, for them, it is normal. They're commuinicators. And if you think it is bad here, go to Beijing, as I just have done, and get on the subway. 85% of everybody under 30 on the subway will be texting. Continuously. In many countries, texting is a bigger revenue maker than voice communications. That is the new standard. I disagree. I'm a "youngster" and of the "PC Generation", but I bother with mechanics, punctuation and thought. The most one-liners I get are from middle-aged to older men (I would call them gentlemen, but they rarely warrant that title). I believe it is a mixture of laziness, ignorance of the mechanics of writing and speed -- they want to get to as many people as they can, as many have already stated.

Monkeyontuesday -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 5:03:44 PM)
Wow, BeIgnited, I don't even get THAT... Apparently I can be intimidating and thus not hit on... Ever.. [:(] edited cause I don't know the difference between past and present.

OmegaG -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 5:28:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Monkeyontuesday quote: ORIGINAL: antipode There are two reasons. One is the one other have mentioned. The second (an this is from my own research, and that of colleagues, in a telecommunications lab) is that there is now an entire generation that grew up with the PC and on the Interweb [;)], and communicates almost exclusively online. I've seen a similar phenomenon in the corporation (300,000 employees), when we introduced all-electronic communications, and phased in online conferencing, and IM, on top of the Lotus Notes that was already there. It turns out that specifically the youngsters multitask enormously, in ways that did not exist before. A teenager will eat, study, IM on the PC, and text on the cell, all at the same time. Those of you who have kids (I am saying this for the benefit of those who don't, and those outside of North America) are familiar with teenagers having conversations on both lines of the call waiting simultaneously - this has only gotten more intense. So at leat some of the onliners are caused by their "need for speed" - for them, a oneliner is a sentence in a conversation. Look at some of the postings by 18 year olds here - they don't write, they converse, so, for them, a single sentence "probe", to see what comes back, or just a sentence in a conversation, is totally normal. They just have too much to do, and too many people to communicate with. You think it is rude, for them, it is normal. They're commuinicators. And if you think it is bad here, go to Beijing, as I just have done, and get on the subway. 85% of everybody under 30 on the subway will be texting. Continuously. In many countries, texting is a bigger revenue maker than voice communications. That is the new standard. I disagree. I'm a "youngster" and of the "PC Generation", but I bother with mechanics, punctuation and thought. The most one-liners I get are from middle-aged to older men (I would call them gentlemen, but they rarely warrant that title). I believe it is a mixture of laziness, ignorance of the mechanics of writing and speed -- they want to get to as many people as they can, as many have already stated. well, in that case you coud be talking to people who didn't touch a key board until it became almost neccessary to own a computer and they are still hen pecking out their thoughts. A one liner could take them far longer then one of my longest diatribes. But the crux of the issue is that everyone has their own style of communication, what I prefer and look for in a partner is not what trips another's trigger. Some prefer that I hadn't swallowed a thesaurus when I was younger (others would prefer that I could spell all the words I use correctly), some speak over my head. In a nut shell, if their communication style isn't compatible with you then they just saved you the trouble of spending time together looking for other incompatibilities.

antipode -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 5:36:47 PM)
quote: but I bother with mechanics, punctuation and thought Good for you. The majority of teens no longer do, however, I will admit there certainly are exceptions. And you know that for texting/SMS use the teen community has developed what amounts to a new language, that they can have entire meaningful conversations in using oneliners. I was completely blown away when I observed, in Beijing, recently, that Chinese teens do exactly the same thing with an abbreviated set of Chinese characters.

hopelesslyInvo -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 6:58:39 PM)
hello forum poster, you've raised a question worth noting, i often seek such questions from other posters, and was attracted by your post, if this sounds good to you and you'd like to know more about my opinions, please read my non-smart-ass reply below... *ahem~ i never write form letters or responses, [not counting the obvious] but one liners are totally something i do and have yet to get a negative reaction from it. maybe it's because of what's in my one line, or how i 'line' it to them, or that at least it's not a one worder, but so far as i can tell it's a sure sight better to sincerely say or ask just one or two things which are pertinent or personal [not too personal lol], than to spam about stuff for 3 pages with a dull, impersonal, detached ranting. i often get one liners from other people, including people among these boards and i'm always happy to get them and respond back. i like one liners because that feels like a conversation to me; when someone says "how are you, i liked your ________ and was curious if your _______?" that feels like a conversation you'd have in person, and i like that approach. people often say that when writing people on here you should write a few paragraphs and say this, this, that, comment on this, and ask a question about that, but that's just awkward to me. imagine walking up to someone in person and being like "hello, you caught my attention while i was buying my groceries, so i decided to introduce myself, and now i'm going to tell you my life story and what i look for in a relationship, and then i'll ask if you like my tattoos. ready?". in short, i talk to people on here the way i talk to people in person, meaning one or two sentences at a time usually, back and forth. i save the rants and long explanations for the occasions they WANT to know them.

Monkeyontuesday -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/3/2008 8:01:24 PM)
I do detest the one-liners that are asinine, such as repeated comments on my photos without an actual conversation when I reply (a few individuals have sent me something like four or five such notes in the past three weeks). They are flattering, but come on. The one-liners I hate are things like "wow ur hot" or asking for my chat info when I state so very clearly I don't chat... The ones that prove an individual has no intellect and really... Not to sound conceited.. but even if I were looking, I couldn't submit to someone who I could run intellectual circles around. But maybe that's just me being stuck up.

gauguin -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/4/2008 5:04:09 PM)
Have you seen much of posts from one-liners ever? :-) From other hand, writing personal message is much more difficult, then boards post...

candystripper -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/4/2008 5:24:27 PM)
It's a myth that the 'vast majority' of CM members act (or react) a certain way. Your mileage will always vary. I also don't get the hand-wringing some members post about, decrying the fact that a goodly number of CM members don't post on these boards. Huh? Are you obsessing abiout foot traffic in the chat rooms, too, if you choose to spend your time logged in on CM in chat? Do you worry what others may be doing with 'new members' or 'search' too? What's up with this burning desire for conformty at CM I have been hearing about from some CM members lately? I don't get it. candystripper [sm=pole.gif]

Barelily -> RE: Form Letters and One Liners (11/4/2008 9:59:01 PM)
Form letters get deleted right away. They let me know a couple of things right away, even though most form letters will make some sort of reference to having read my profile, they didn't or they wouldn't be sending me a form letter. So the next thing it lets me know is that this person is a liar. One liners are a little more iffy, as I've recently learned, sometimes they contain volumes. Disclaimer: This post was made in response to the post made by WidowSpiders and is based on my opinion and experiences only.

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