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LacieDoll -> What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 5:26:20 PM)

I wasn't going to post this, however, this struck me as very strange and disconcerting. Recently I was contacted here on CollarMe from someone who might be interested in talking further with me. His email was nicely done. I checked his profile for similar interests and what he is looking for. Seemed ok to me. In his email he gave me his yahoo name and to contact him if I wanted to talk further. I didn't think anything about it. It's just an instant message and I don't have to add him to my list or allow him to add me to his. Seemed pretty harmless.

I instant messaged him. In the span of 10 minutes he began asking me questions that I thought were odd but not unusual. He asked me what I did for a living and I told him without telling him where, just a basic non descript job scope. He asked me if I owned my own home...etc. The questions I thought were strange because no one when I first talk to them has ever asked me certain things right up front. These questions may not seem weird to you but to me they are. I will tell you more why in just a moment.

So I am talking to him. He isn't really telling me anything about himself nor is he talking much just asking questions. If I hestitated a few moments he would Buzz me to get my attention. Ok so now I am thinking he is a lil demanding but still I am polite and respectful because that is my nature.

At the same time I am chatting with him in IM, I get an IM from someone who I have never talked to before in my life. I was invisible so no one knew I was online. This person was supposedly female and identified herself as an FBI Agent and began telling me that I was in trouble and that if I didn't cooperate I could get arrested etc. That they were trying to find information regarding my job and regurgitating what I had told this guy. First I am smart enough to know the FBI wouldn't contact me via yahoo messenger and wouldn't have any idea I was online. Second I asked for proof of which I didn't get any. And the job thing was almost exactly as I had told that guy. At this point I am getting weirded out. I am thinking 1) this is the same person playing weird games or 2) This is just a coincidence. I would hate to think that someone would play weird games like that. I stopped talking to the (FBI) person and I made an excuse to stop talking to the man. I was getting just a lil freaked out by it the coincidence of it.

Well today I come on to check my CollarMe mail and go to look up the guys profile again to reread what it said. Now its no longer a guy, its a girl submissive with the same information but different age and weight (by the way who is 5'8" and 60 pounds). So now I am freaked out totally.

I guess the purppose of my post was to tell people to be very careful who they talk to. You never know what you will get. I have blocked this person from contacting me on yahoo and CollarMe. It's just too freaky for me to even begin to describe. Also, if it doesn't feel right, don't continue. Don't question yourself that you may be thinking strangely. Normally, if you have a strange feeling inside there is a reason so listen to it. I think this post is more for the newer people than anything. I just had to get it off my chest. Thanks for listening.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 5:32:38 PM)

People online play games and act dorky.

Expect it.

Ignore it when it crosses your path.

If someone acts weird online, just click them away.




MissDiandSirHugh -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 5:44:59 PM)

Always follow Your Mind and Your Heart if it sounds weird it is and if that happens hit block so fast you can't see your fingers move.
Never look back at those who you have blocked as thats where they belong in you and forgotten.




foxglove716 -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 5:55:21 PM)

Wow what a fruit loop. Inst is weird how intuition transcends into the digital world?




fastlane -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 5:58:16 PM)

I swear it wasn't me, I was under moderation at the time.

That is really scarey stuff though. We all need to be careful.
I wish you well and good luck for a good Dom.

Kevin




IrishMist -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 5:58:48 PM)

Yep, total fruitcake....but also total psycho......




candystripper -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 6:17:51 PM)

i'm sorry this happened to you, LacieDoll; but you handled it well. You might also report him/her to Support. Chances are they won't act on your say-so, but if other women report him/her they may.

i would only add NEVER send or recieve a file through the IM; that is how one of my hackers got in.

candystripper




BalletBob -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 6:55:19 PM)

Hi LacieDoll. I agree with the others that you should report them to Cpllarme, just in case they got some other complaints. Maybe this is someone underage?

Take care and I sure hope you have a great time from now on, without the NUTS!

Sincerly, BalletBob




sultryvoice -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 7:05:33 PM)

You just never know who is out on the world wide web..you just have to go with your instincts like you did..be careful about giving out your screen name. Also, it appears to me that he might have been looking for a sugar mama! Possibly, maybe?

Respectfully,
sultry




sanita -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 7:08:02 PM)

Hi LacieDoll

Good for you, going with your gut.

If you have the Yahoo Tanscript on your history, you might consider contacting the Yahoo people about it. I know they are nearly knee-jerk about frauds and certain behavior on their watch. There may be something in Terms of Service about attempting to impersonate Federal Officers.

It sounds like this jerk needs the scare he or she is trying to inflict on other people.

Keep your chin up, and your head down! ;)





MissHarlet -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 7:26:04 PM)

Thank you for posting this horrid experience. So often we get complacent about online chatting and give out too much information.

I think this is especially true of newbie submissive women. I am proud of you for trusting your instincts and acting as you did.

I will also encourage you, as have others, to report these names to both Yahoo and Collarme... if this was done to you it is almost certain it has been done to others.

You have proved you are just what a submissive should be .. strong and intelligent and able to choose who to talk to or submit to .. not just be a doormat .. congratulations <smile>

I wish you the best of luck in your search for the " Perfect Dom " for you ...





MissHarlet -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 7:32:05 PM)

OOPS .. I reread my post and I did NOT mean to imply you are a newbie or not .. as I have no idea lol just that newbies are the ones that most often think they have to follow whatever anyone with Dom or Master or Mistress in their names tell them to ...

Again I apologize if that sounded wrong or condescending ... and yes Virginia even this Domme makes mistakes at times <EG>




truesub4u -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 9:08:14 PM)

Yesterday on "The View" I heard them ladies talking about a bunch of different things. But what stuck out most... was when they said.. that parents would get along better with their teenage kids.. if they treated then like out patients from a Mental Hospital.....

I think the same would fit in here... If you think they're all out patients from a Mental Hospital, you might pick up on some of the more weird stuff faster.

Now before someone takes offense... this is not a offensive remark to anyone who isn't or even is an out patient to any mental wards.... this is only one way of looking at SOME people.. and teens.. lol




OscarHargraves -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 10:39:48 PM)

Good post ........ and good advice.

Thanks !




keptcaged -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/16/2005 11:30:06 PM)

In a different but similar vein.........

Let's say i'm a sub getting to know a Dom from the group. By nature she's taking a commanding "posture" in the dialogue. asking questions, almost interviewing me. i expect that. It fits what we're doing here....but.......how does one submit during the "get to know ya" stage and not be wondering....is this gonna bight me in the ass tomorrow?

keptcaged[8|]




Padriag -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/17/2005 12:39:20 AM)

What a bizarre experience. Wish I could say it was unique, but unfortunately it isn't. There are many people who treat the internet like a big video game, they're just here playing around for kicks and grins. They never stop to think that what they do affects other people.

I would take the suggestion of reporting the incident to Yahoo seriously, and probably to CM as well. I'd also report it to the FBI... did you know impersonating an FBI officer, even online, is a felony? Some moron out there could end up doing prison time over it.

But look on the brightside, there was no real harm done. You were smart enough not to give out too much personal information to someone you just met. You played it smart. As freaky as the experience was, it was just that.. a weird experience. Don't let it make you afraid to talk to anyone else, while there are some loons out there, there are also plenty of good people too.

If anything you seem to be a good example of the right way to handle such a situation.




ExistentialSteel -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/17/2005 3:24:48 AM)

Yep, you could report this because it was a crime. Every screenname can be traced via the ISP address. It is up to you if you think it was serious. Personally, I've encountered more than a few weird ones and look at it as being inherently part of the "anonymous" internet.

When I first joined AOL years ago I was scamed into giving my credit card number to an IM that popped up saying it was the AOL administrator. Yeah, duh me, but this was over 10 years ago when AOL was new to me in the days of dial-up connections. Nothing happened, but I realized the internet was not Kansas after my senses came to me.

On a more humorous note and I swear this is true...again duh me, the profile thing on AOL was new to me. I thought it was some kind of company info thing so where it says name, I put my full, actual name. Where it says home, I put my city. I mean I was putting down anything they asked. The chatrooms and subs I chatted with were various types and I would chat with pretty much anyone at that time as the whole internet fascinated me. Eventually, to my bewilderment, I started to get calls at 2 AM from women named things like BaldSub4U. (I'm not making up that name.) I could not understand how they knew my home telephone number. Yep, I've learned a lot about this here internet over the years...said Forrest Gump.




LadiesBladewing -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/17/2005 3:40:23 AM)

Protect yourself as much as possible. Follow your instincts.

For those who are strictly internet, don't share things that could be misused by a person you've never met except online.

If you -are- meeting the person, don't share anything more than neutral information (including not sharing things like address and phone number) until you've met once or twice, and are comfortable enough with this person that xhe'd be someone you'd "date" in the regular world. Meet in public venues at first, or meet with others who can provide some "witness" to the situation. (And even then, share only as much as you are cautiously comfortable with, savoring the sharing between the two (or more) of you so that you take your time to really get to know one another.) If you feel that you are uncomfortable sharing certain things, say so (politely, of course). If a dominant individual is pushy about sensitive information and doesn't respect the need for patience and caution on a submissive individual's part, that person probably isn't ready for the responsibilities of ownership. Letting go at these early meetings is easier than getting out of a bad situation later.

Even then, things can happen, but if you are patient and slow in the process, the chance of wierd stuff happening that could be dangerous to you diminishes somewhat.

Lady Zephyr

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ORIGINAL: keptcaged

In a different but similar vein.........

Let's say i'm a sub getting to know a Dom from the group. By nature she's taking a commanding "posture" in the dialogue. asking questions, almost interviewing me. i expect that. It fits what we're doing here....but.......how does one submit during the "get to know ya" stage and not be wondering....is this gonna bight me in the ass tomorrow?

keptcaged[8|]




Padriag -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/17/2005 3:56:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ExistentialSteel

Yep, you could report this because it was a crime. Every screenname can be traced via the ISP address. It is up to you if you think it was serious. Personally, I've encountered more than a few weird ones and look at it as being inherently part of the "anonymous" internet.

My guess is it was just some jerk whack job having a prank. On the other hand I'm enough of a bastard to report them to the Feds as my idea of a "prank."




MHOO314 -> RE: What you see is not always what you get (12/17/2005 6:19:41 AM)

it is My firm belief that in the "get to know ya stages" there has been no agreement that a dynamic exists---too often subs assume from the outset that submission starts at the first contact and Dominants allow that to happen---IMHO--no way, one is not My sub nor am I one's Dominant until we agree to it---there are pleanty of ways to show "submission" in the early stages yet still make wants and needs known---if not, "pack the toy bag and back away"...




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