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MstrHellsFury -> The CM Posts (12/17/2005 11:44:46 AM)

as wonderful and helpful as the post here may be for those looking for insight into the different areas of interest within the lifestyle...this is an opinion driven medium...so this brings me to the question for which opinion isn't needed...all you need do is reflect the facts as you see them relating to your own situation...

how many..Masters/Dom/mees..have sent your (blank) to read and learn here...then realize...the overwelming amount of information...isn't all a good thing...how many have come back with some second thoughts when the information leads their (blank)...to begin to question your way of direction...( the old..but others do that this way syndrome)

Fury



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 12:27:50 PM)

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how many..Masters/Dom/mees..have sent your (blank) to read and learn here...then realize...the overwelming amount of information...isn't all a good thing...how many have come back with some second thoughts when the information leads their (blank)...to begin to question your way of direction...( the old..but others do that this way syndrome)
Fury
I like getting notes from people who've read me on here, because something I've said resonates with them. I have had subs read threads on specific subject matters, and than ask their impression, because if the subject matter I felt the information is important to how we relate; that way I'd get a glimpse into his thinking and reasoning, and he gets the same glimpse into my thinking... In my opinion, it's one simple way to strike up lifestyle related conversation, and it's not so much about how so and so does it, since I don't think any of us does it (or ought to do it) exactly the same as the next person. M



theRose4U -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 12:33:17 PM)

I encourage reading and education. I do not believe that discussion of someone elses take on a given point is necessarily a bad thing. While John Warren may say A and another author say b it is these differences in perspective that feed the minds of the variety of people in this lifestyle. My take on dominance is different from yours and the expectations that I put on my boy are different from those another would expect.
My boy by our mutual decision does not read the boards. He had no real interest in speaking with other Dommes (good boy) and knows that anything I find pertinant or feel he could add to a thread will be discussed.
The only time that I think boards can sometimes be harmful, especially for the new, are when the come in seeking validation that they are right on some point and others agree with them over the Dom/me with very limited information. I'm sure that at home what they gleen from the boards validating whatever point of view they have can be a real issue when it comes to their real realtionship. That being said...I also think that the boards can be helpful in giving subs or slaves permission to leave a relationship where they have already decided that they WANT to leave and just need others to "give them permission". In many cases due to lack of information and full disclosure this can be a 2 sided knife that cuts both ways regardless of how you try to split the issue.
But your milage may vary :)



KnightofMists -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 12:58:55 PM)


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how many..Masters/Dom/mees..have sent your (blank) to read and learn here...then realize...the overwelming amount of information...isn't all a good thing...how many have come back with some second thoughts when the information leads their (blank)...to begin to question your way of direction...( the old..but others do that this way syndrome)


I have sent my slaves here to read and consider what has been said here... I have also recommended it to my bottom and friends. Yes I agree that the overwelming amount of opinions or things shared on here have no value or considerations for anyone specific. I am sure that on occassions that a piece of informatin now and again have changed a direction or two. But, for me to change my direction or quesiton myself has never never happened from what I have read here. My slaves in particular have found a few kinderd of spirits in reading some of the posts here and therefore don't feel so alone or isolated in this world. Much what we have found from what we have read on CM has been not so much a change or question of direction but instead of providing a different perspective on the path we are choosing to follow. These different perspectives on the rare occassions have provided some insight on the path that we are already moving forward on. Oh it would be much simpler if a person didn't have to sort thru so much trash to get to that rare find... but then the find is indeed more significant as a result of the effort for the find and not just the impact of the find itself



MTslave -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 1:56:16 PM)

I thirst for more knowledge... To learn and understand and grow. I've often found that while reading message forums or dropping into a chat room here or there that something may be brought up that then leads me and my Master into and excellent discussion just among ourselves. I've learned so very much from reading different sites and boards. Now mind you I may not agree nor implement things I learn about, but it's very satisfying to have gained that knowledge. I would hope that most get something out of reading. Even just a work out of the brain cells. [:)]

As always
Master T's



imtempting -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 2:01:32 PM)

I was send here from my old mistress to pick up after some sad, unforseen, un-avoidable events happened :(



Crazytwice -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 2:20:51 PM)

Hi Fury,

What a GREAT question. I'm a newcomer to D/s, have been on CM for a couple of months, and when I started, i read everything- and became even MORE confused than I was before. There is such a smorgasbord of opinions, information, manifestations of this lifestyle, that it, frankly, stressed me out and I was pretty close to deciding to close this chapter and write it off as a whimsical interest only.

But then I learned to read with a more critical eye, understood that if someone declares what they percieve to be the truth, that doesnt neccesarily make it a truth for me. It helped immensely to start writing my own thoughts, because now I can engage in a conversation of sorts and not just read from a blind faith perspective.

Now i struggle with "message board addiction". [:D]

CT



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 5:13:48 PM)

Half the skill of research is in sorting through information once you get it. If my partner didn't have that half good to go, then sending them out just to get tons o' info would be pointless to start with.



BalletBob -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 5:18:48 PM)

I think everything here, as else where, would have to be taken at face value. You have to go over it and then decide which fits you or your personality.

BalletBob



ExistentialSteel -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 5:20:26 PM)

I'm not about to knock reading.



SweetSarijane -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 6:03:34 PM)

I've been reading in the forums here basically from the time I joined collarme. I enjoy it very much and have learned things and read others' viewpoints on things. I just read it, think it over and see where it does or does not fit into my life, situation, or beliefs. I don't take what's posted in the forums as the be all end all of knowledge. For me it provides food for thought.



DelRey -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 6:14:01 PM)

Are you telling me some people on this board are just "FULL OF IT"

Noooooooooooooooo


Say it isn't so....... LOL
[:D]



perverseangelic -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 7:36:59 PM)

I asked my Owner to come here to read for ideas, but he said that there was a much to high noise to information ratio for him :)



OscarHargraves -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 8:17:54 PM)

She wouldn't DARE question me !!!!
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Would she?



Sunshine119 -> RE: The CM Posts (12/17/2005 8:49:14 PM)

I found CM by myself when searching for information. Like others here, the vast differences in what appeared to be "experience" sent me looking deeply into myself to see if I actually fit into this lifestyle and whether or not I wanted OUT!

Then, I learned to read profiles much more carefully and found out that many professing love, devotion and the willingness to do anything at all for their masters, were on-line only and had never felt the sting of a real crop in a real master's hand. Once I got through that, I found many here that had very useful, intellegent, real-life experiences to share. By in large, they are the ones that are far more careful, considerate of their partners and don't live in some imagined bubble.

Now, those who come on looking for a master and find him/her within a day or two; are "collared" within a week and totally owned by someone they have never met, stick out like a sore thumb! LOL...it's been a long few months!




MHOO314 -> RE: The CM Posts (12/18/2005 8:22:50 AM)

I never send a sub here cold with no preparation or prior education, I usually start them at an external site first, get some basic concepts into them, then have them read specific postings from Dom/mes and subs I respect and who always impart some learning--My new boy is more experienced, so he comes here to read My postings as well, it is a good vehicle for communication as it stimulates questionsan openess, One can't hide reactions or ideas from a sub when one posts here openly--



candystripper -> RE: The CM Posts (12/18/2005 9:15:08 AM)

i did not realise we were being held to a standard any higher than "entertainment" or even "venting" when posting. There are few subjects i could claim any expertise on, yet i usually have an opinion and it delights me to add it to the mix. Also, i have made friends here whom i cherish; and we have had discussions in "Off Topic" that rival any i have had in real life, about religion, politics, etc. Generally speaking, this is a highly-intelligent and accomplished group. So no, i don't know the proper use of ice; for that i think you'd need to surf or better yet, speak to someone in real life who has experience with it. Hope this helps.

candystripper



willing2serve -> RE: The CM Posts (12/18/2005 9:25:08 AM)

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how many..Masters/Dom/mees..have sent your (blank) to read and learn here...then realize...the overwelming amount of information...isn't all a good thing.


This is a very good question and a valid point, i might add...

For me before i had a Master, i would come to the forum to educate myself mainly on what i was NOT looking for in a Master and after learning some of the basic ideals and principles from certain individuals, i would ask them specific questions (for example MercNBeth).

After i met my Master, not understanding at the time, i went into a sort of isolation/learning mode, as W/we were setting our foundation. This was a wonderful time of bonding. I relied on him solely with my questions and directions and learned to trust his knowledge and wisdom and to communicate problems, issues and everything with Him FIRST, which is how it SHOULD be.

I now go back to the posts and forums, but Master knows my thoughts and questions beforehand. He is top priority and my number one source for learning. If he doesnt have answers to my questions, He knows where to get them. I rely on Him.

W/we now discuss things as seen on forums.

Thank you for this thought-provoking question.

Respectfully,
BTs willing



Sensualips -> RE: The CM Posts (12/18/2005 9:52:30 PM)

I think the value ones takes from here might depend on a comfort and familiarity with this medium and message board communities in general. If you enjoy reading, can sift through the large amounts of posts fairly quickly, comprehend easily, and understand the nature of message boards -- it can be very valuable. If not, I imagine it could be an overwhelming or confusing experience.




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