Termyn8or
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DK, busting my balls here is fine, but I think you need more practice. Total hypothesis, which was the basis of every scientific discovery.
I was not aware they could actually form an atom. I was aware that they have produced isotopes in labs, cyclotrons, what have you, some with half lives in the microseconds, yet still detectable. However they were made from something else, not formed just from energy.
I may have used the term velocity space, let's put it this way, differently. That can cause problems. To explain what I mean (lessee I got an hour and a half before work, I might get it done) simply consider the Doppler effect. On a spectrograph, we know pretty much what is in stars and the spectrological signatures, as such we can see these signatures in stars and by observing a red or blue shift in the pattern can determine if the star is moving toward or away from the point of observation. They have been doing it for years, but consider this, if any given star can be moving closer or farther from us, what would be the limit of it's relative velocity ? What if a star is moving toward us at C ? What would we detect ?
Conversesely, take the case of the observed star moving away from us. Let's assume for now that by definition stars emit light. What if said star is moving away from us at C ? I believe that what we would detect is matter. Taking a slower approach, where it is moving away at not quite C, at a certain speed visible light becomes infrared, then as the relative speed increases that become UHF radio waves, then faster, lower frequency waves and so forth. It could be moving away from us at C, and if it always has been, we detect nothing.
It is important to realize the vastness of space, astronomers tell of explosions of stars, or them going supernova and such, but they do say, even though many don't quite grasp the concept, is that what we are seeing may have happened millions of years ago and the light is just getting here now.
Light produced in our velocity space is percieved as light, and it pretty much stays that way. Any sort of light we produce is not powerful enough to cause any disturbance to another universe because it dissipates too quickly. Likewise I'm sure and there is no way to know if another universe occupies the same actual space as ours because of the vastness of space. My point is that even if it did, we would be none the wiser.
Many think C is an absolute, and will never be exceeded, but that thinking is not going to get us anywhere and I believe it is illogical. You propel something with enough continued force it will go any (relative) velocity you want. Such as it is in the universe. If a star can be shifted from our exact velocity space enough to detect the Doppler effect, what's to say that there aren't countless more, but they are displaced from our velocity space by greater than C ?
That's the point, C is a Man made limitation, there is no basis for it to be a limit. Except if my hypothesis is correct. That would cause an apparent limitation to us, the observers. That does not mean the limitation would be universal.
I know this is all far fetched, and school learning just doesn't work here. We define things and think we are some sort of God or something, that now that we know this we know it all, that is the way of Man. I think C is a limitation because of the hypothesis, and for no other reason. If the hypothesis is true, it would go a long way to explain why.
Take a much simpler example, you are in a ship. You are sitting on Earth and fastening your seatbelt or whatever. You occupy the same velocity space as the rest of the world. You see the stars and you are about ready to head out. You are seeing the light emitted by the stars. You fire up the engines, let out the clutch or whatever and accelerate to a relative velocity of C. Now what do you see ? All the light you saw before is now out of the visual spectrum. But what do you see ?
I, for one would like to change my velocity space by C, just to see what I could see at C (sorry, couldn't resist). With current technology, we would have no idea, stars moving toward or away from us at relative C would be percieved as what ?
Some don't think this issue is much of a mind bender, usually due to formal education. So if you can't fuddle your brain up with this, define space. (go there and you might never come back)
Oh, and interference between universes when they pass through each other ? Not to worry, like the vastness of space, even the densest matter (percieved or otherwise) has alot of space between the nucleus and the orbiting electrons.
To simplify this whole thing for those who want the short answer, matter is simply energy which has stopped moving, at least relative to us.
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