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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver
Welcome to capitalism. If you are poor, you deserve to be poor!
Are you serious? This is the sort of simplistic, pig in the sky twaddle that some Tories come out with, no thinking, just straightforward generalization and straight onto the conclusion (note to Politesub53, some Tories, some Tories)
Poverty is one of the most complex and persistent social problems in history which no one political ideology whether left or right has managed to successfully eradicate.
I have nothing against capitalism, nothing at all. If you seek to acquire and earn then you must first either work or invest, and be it labour, a service or a product you need to have something to sell and a market which needs or desires what you are selling.
If you are poor then apart from a lack of effort (those who perhaps do deserve to be poor) there could be many other reasons behind that poverty - a lack of education, a lack of knowledge or expertise in a given area, illness, disability, job losses caused by cutbacks, a surplus of labour supply over demand, a lack of skills, family issues, homelessness, natural disasters such as famines, hurricanes, and so on.
Before people start getting on their high horses about socialism this is what socialism is about - it's not about doling out handouts to everybody but about providing people with the means for their own production.
The OP is a classic example of why Thatcherism didn't work - because the trickledown theory itself didn't work.
This is where the politicians to me have got it all back to front. Trying to rebuild society from the top doesn't work - doesn't anybody remember Robert Maxwell? We can see here just how willing the banks are in passing on that prosperity. Okay, so how about rebuilding society and the economy from the bottom?
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