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thishereboi -> RE: Gun Sales Up Since Obama Election Victory (11/14/2008 6:00:15 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
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ORIGINAL: CraZYWiLLiE
Thousands die in automobile crashes each year. Ban em..
2nd ammendment... Well regulate militia... free state..shall not be infringed...
Without the 2nd , there is no constitution, what you think holds it all together...words...NO guns, and those that have them.
Ask those who had their guns taken from them if they feel safe and secure.
An automobile as a weapon, it can be used as such, as automobiles are dangerous, or can be dangerous in the wrong hands, but automobiles have a good use, that of transportation, that is it's purpose. An automobile for killing, that is a misuse of purpose, not the reason for making them and using them, so banning automobiles because they can kill is much the same as banning anything pointy or sharp, because of the possibilities of misuse or accident. Given that level of paranoia, after the pointy, sharp things have been eradicated , the hitting things will be next and there follows every other tool we use until we are left with our own tooth and claw, until that is banned.
It is misguided to assume because an accident can kill as a by product of proper use , it should be taken away.
Guns on the other hand have but one use, killing. Hunting for game is fine if you need to hunt to live, but other than that, why have a gun and the problems they cause.
I think to realise that what I see as this philia that is gun love in the US is more disturbing because we in the UK cannot legally carry anything which can be deemed as offensive for the protection of ourselves. The law is, if we are attacked, we must call a policeman, something which is fine for olden times when we had bobbies and peelers, the hue and cry method then worked. So, we cannot carry in public what is deemed to be an offensive weapon, even for protection, if we use 'something' to defend ourselves, then it is highly possible we will be prosecuted for it, as everything that can be used in defence, can be used for attack and in the eyes of our controllers, we are all potential assailants.
It is no joke that much of our youth carry knives and knife crime is a problem, and I do understand those that say they carry for defence, as here, weapon owning is a respect thing with the young, a knife being a thing to respect in the hands of a known head case, defence against head cases I can understand, but there are better ways than knives, martial arts training is very effective.
The rest of us, well, most just keep clear of known trouble spots and use feeling as to ascertain whether a place we are going to is safe to go to, get the gut feeling and change the plan. Avoidance of difficulty by being aware.
Is this why your against guns? Because we can carry them and you can't? Sorry, but that's as lame as the ones who claim you shouldn't own a gun because your really don't "need" it. Maybe you should turn your energy to fixing the problems where you live. When you have no more violence in your own area, then you can start worrying about others.
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