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A Cautionary Tale - 11/11/2008 8:34:50 PM

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I guess the moral of the story is to be careful who you meet online, and go camping with...

Woman slain as she tried to leave KKK rite

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/11/2008 10:06:10 PM

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Amyone who would get seriously involved with the KKK now needs a brain transplant. In other words, the internet did not cause this.

I will say it again, there was a time when the KKK was an honorable group, and very valid and needed during the reconstruction after the civil war. However like alot of groups they have devolved, and now look what we got.

Even if they claim to be racist, was not this victim White ? I mean a Black Woman going to a KKK initiation would be about the only thing stupider that I could think of. If anyone can come up with something stupider than that, please do tell.

Likewise, at one time I bet the Westboro Baptist church was great, the SPLC did a few good things, the ACLU did a few good things, but now all of them seem to have perverted normal morality and common sense (if there is such a thing) to the point that I am almost against groups in toto. Not quite though, some political activism is something I might get involved in, but many groups seem to have this propensity. They seem to sort of absorb into themselves and exclude reality. Their beliefs become isolationist. (for lack of a superlative) I don't mind seperatists.

True seperatists are just that. They will not screw with anyone. The Weaver family didn't, the Branch Davidians didn't. But they were White seperatists, and therefore Reno and Horiuchi had to do something. That was just plain wrong because those victims would have never bothered anyone if left alone. That was more than wrong because if those events hadn't occurred, I think it likely the the Murrah building would not have been bombed. But the thought police must operate, they need something to do.

McVeigh and his cohorts, the KKK and other groups give White people a bad name. They prove unequivocably that some of us have not grown up out of the day of beer guzzling knuckle dragging hillbillies who think they're better somehow, when they are no better than anyone.

When will THAT stop ?

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/11/2008 10:29:30 PM

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Termy, amongst a bevy of wrong statements one that was just absurd was the idea that the Branch Davidians were white seperatists.

It's also a remarkably easy claim to disprove. See this page for a photo of four survivors of the Waco fire
http://stewart-rhodes.blogspot.com/2008/01/i-am-mexican-american-i-worked-for-ron.html

If you insist I'll correct your incorrect claims about the SPLC, ACLU and Randy Weaver but it might be simpler for you to stop making claims you haven't researched.

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/11/2008 10:54:53 PM

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You're sending me to a blog for proof ? Gimme a break.

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 2:58:09 AM

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and then there is the tale of two quite distinct groups in the UK - The Odinic Rite, and The Odinic Rite. One is (I think was, these days) an Odinist religious group, the other is a front for neo-nazis.

this would be about 15 years back now I'd suppose and I got it second hand but still. a fairly well known folklore writer got them confused and went on a camping trip with the latter - it could easily have ended the same way as in the OP what with him misunderstanding the situation and correcting them on a few things; apparently he had to run from the site in the end, chased by knife wielding nazis upset at being contradicted in their views.

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 3:10:36 AM

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I laughed when I read yr OP, The Heretic. I know shouldn't have, but I admit I did.

Thanks.

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 4:02:02 AM

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I agree with Termy, DomKen. The KKK began as a 'volunteer' police group in Tennessee in 1866. See story Here. Then, of course, the group departed from its original mission of keeping public order. Same thing with the National Organization for Women. Once upon a time, it was a reputable organization which dealt with such issues as salary parity. Nowadays, it spouts horseshit about how all men are f**ktards.

When a group devolves, it is time to ‘leave the building’. Small groups, like a D/s Dungeon, are prone to schisms. Large groups, which impact the community at large, are often perverted from their original 'mission statement'.

The fact is that when engaging in political activism, I am selective about not only the party affiliation, but also the candidate I support. As a ‘recovering Republican’ I did not ever feel all Republicans were cool – and even the candidates I supported I sometimes got to know personally (my ‘team’ does not always win, LOL). Man, on a one to one basis, I wouldn’t have had any of them over for dinner. Talk about twisted, LOL. Power hungry folks are not my cup of tea.

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Anyone happen to hear the story of the serial killer John Robinson, who selected his victims of the internet's BDSM sites?

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/john_robinson/10.html

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 4:29:03 AM

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Actually I think the moral is....don't hang out with hate groups. She knew who they were and what they stood for. Now we have one dead and 8 in custody. I am sorry, but I am finding it hard to be anything but pleased that those 8 might spend some time locked up.

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 5:14:38 AM

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I am sorry, but I am finding it hard to be anything but pleased that those 8 might spend some time locked up.

No reason to be sorry, I think it's the only thing that can be done with them. And... did you see that guy's face? What a perfect incarnation of Aryan perfection

. So much for white fucking supremacy.

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 6:04:11 AM

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You're sending me to a blog for proof ? Gimme a break.

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I sent you to a photo but since you insist on dragging this out I'll point you to Livingstone Fagan, imprisoned for his actions at Mt. Carmel and now living in Britain, born in Haiti considered by many of the survivors to be their leadingtheologian and indisputably a black man.

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 6:08:13 AM

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You're sending me to a blog for proof ?

Yeah, next time send the wiki link!

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 6:34:00 AM

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I am finding it hard to be anything but pleased

That's right, Boi. Nothing to see here. It's not like there could be any comparison, commonality, or lesson to be taken from a woman with "fringe" beliefs finding like-minded people online...

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 8:42:10 AM

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I am sorry, but I am finding it hard to be anything but pleased that those 8 might spend some time locked up.

No reason to be sorry, I think it's the only thing that can be done with them. And... did you see that guy's face? What a perfect incarnation of Aryan perfection . So much for white fucking supremacy.

I have to admit I don't remember the face, probibly mentally blocked it to avoid damage to my brain. I'm a sensitve boi and some things just scare the hell out of me.

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RE: A Cautionary Tale - 11/12/2008 9:14:42 AM

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Mmmmm hate group. I joined the Army and was sent to kill other people.

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