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whats the difference? - 11/13/2008 8:32:30 PM

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Please Masters,
What is the difference between being a collared slave and an owned slave?
Thank you for your time.

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/13/2008 9:18:12 PM

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quote:

the difference between being a collared slave and an owned slave

none

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/13/2008 9:23:50 PM

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What is the difference between being a collared slave and an owned slave?

"A collared slave" has 14 letters.
"An owned slave" has 12 letters.

Just in case that ever pops up in BDSM crosswords.

Other than, no difference in my book.

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/13/2008 10:12:30 PM

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Generally, ownership is considered a state of being within a relationship.

Collared generally tends to be a statement of going through a specific act of having a collar placed upon you.

But, many people consider themselves collared without the element of ownership, and many people consider themselves owned without ever putting on a collar.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_972728/mpage_1/key_collared/tm.htm#973007
collared vs owned

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1004904/mpage_1/key_owned/tm.htm#1004914
owned vs collared

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/13/2008 10:14:45 PM

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The depreciation rate. While an owned slave starts losing value the minute you drive them off the lot, a collared slave has a higher resale value so the monthly payments are less. Your best bet depends on choosing which is right for you depends on how many miles you plan to drive you slave...

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/13/2008 11:04:11 PM

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Who knew. Suspects there is a bean counter in this thread.

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/14/2008 1:02:48 AM

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If you own someone, then you own then.

Under the old rules of BDSM, in this situation collaring was considered the same as owning...but with all these pseudo/velcro collars out there these days, I don't believe this is the case any more.

PS: What IS a 'collar of consideration' anyway?

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/14/2008 3:16:17 AM

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They are the same as far as I am concerned. My boy wears my collar and as far as I am concerned he is collared, owned and a possession of this redhead.

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/14/2008 6:20:51 AM

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Thank you so much for your time and attention to this question. It is greatly appreciated.

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/14/2008 6:54:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: Usako

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ORIGINAL: twolookingforone
What is the difference between being a collared slave and an owned slave?

"A collared slave" has 14 letters.
"An owned slave" has 12 letters.

Just in case that ever pops up in BDSM crosswords.

Other than, no difference in my book.

haha :) that's just wonderful :)

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/14/2008 8:54:41 AM

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The collar is an outwards sign that a slave is oiwned and the tags on it (if any) will tell you who owns the slave. The collar can also have an extreemly strong emotional and psychological effect on a slave too and in some cases may be considered similar to wedding ring. Of course the ideal situation is to both collar and brand the slave.

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/14/2008 9:48:15 AM

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Ownership: internal
Collar: external
Hopefully the two co-mingle in the holistic acknowledgment of a highly substantive bond.
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RE: whats the difference? - 11/14/2008 10:08:45 AM

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Hmmmmm There are MANY ways of viewing this. The only Pertinent way is the way YOU see these two things.

One might say that a Collar is something he gives you and Ownership is something you give him.
Another Might say Ownership is there with or without a collar
Another might say The only difference is in the people that use them.

I say ..... Decide for yourself, Take everyones opinions and either form your own or find one that works for you.

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RE: whats the difference? - 11/17/2008 6:53:39 PM

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to me, collar means ownership. a slave with a collar, is a slave, I do not initiate conversation with, purposefully,. as it is already owned, and it would be disrespectful and inconsiderate for me to do so.

i do not understand pocket collars, velcro collars, and consideration collars. slaves under consideration, training, interview, or whatever its potential master/mistress would like to call it, i also consider to be off limits for such conversation or entertainment.

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RE: whats the difference? - 3/15/2009 9:17:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

The collar is an outwards sign that a slave is oiwned and the tags on it (if any) will tell you who owns the slave. The collar can also have an extreemly strong emotional and psychological effect on a slave too and in some cases may be considered similar to wedding ring. Of course the ideal situation is to both collar and brand the slave.

i did a search because i, also, have been wanting to know the same thing.....the difference between the two.....and have enjoyed reading all these answers. So being owned is like being married, where being collared is like wearing the wedding ring? So what if one is owned but does not wear His collar? Is it something the Master gives? The slave/sub must earn and beg for? or how does that work?

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RE: whats the difference? - 3/15/2009 9:44:45 AM

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i cant believe you got away with saying this masterforRT. i have no idea what a collar of consideration could be, perhaps it is made of paper. i have heard of temporary collars and i just do not understand. and i agree in those times when a collar meant owned, and a master would not approach a collared slave in any manner.

some how that has gotten rinsed in the wash i guess

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RE: whats the difference? - 3/15/2009 9:47:44 AM

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i removed my slaves collar in order to get through airport security so it could go visit its parents. when the slave arrived it called to tell me it had missed its collar.

i was very touched

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RE: whats the difference? - 3/15/2009 11:07:16 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: masterforRT
PS: What IS a 'collar of consideration' anyway?

I think that is like the old vanilla "oh ok then, here's an engagement ring: now can we fuck?"

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RE: whats the difference? - 3/15/2009 11:20:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Interesdom

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterforRT
PS: What IS a 'collar of consideration' anyway?

I think that is like the old vanilla "oh ok then, here's an engagement ring: now can we fuck?"

lol.

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RE: whats the difference? - 3/15/2009 11:36:05 AM

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quote:

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quote:

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The collar is an outwards sign that a slave is oiwned and the tags on it (if any) will tell you who owns the slave. The collar can also have an extreemly strong emotional and psychological effect on a slave too and in some cases may be considered similar to wedding ring. Of course the ideal situation is to both collar and brand the slave.

i did a search because i, also, have been wanting to know the same thing.....the difference between the two.....and have enjoyed reading all these answers. So being owned is like being married, where being collared is like wearing the wedding ring? So what if one is owned but does not wear His collar? Is it something the Master gives? The slave/sub must earn and beg for? or how does that work?

No. Owned is not like being married, nor is a collar like a wedding ring. What IronBear was talking about was an often-encountered phenomena of the emotional and psychological effect of ownership and collaring. And I'd agree with him that branding takes matters to a deeper level again. The practicalities of ownership are very different - and, I think, more difficult and more rewarding - that those of marriage.

It works the way any two people want it to work. Don't try putting too much into something that is merely convention: different folks do things in different ways. The only time I have given a collar is on releasing a slave who asked to have it as a momento, because up until that time the collar was mine, just like she was.

Let's get one thing straight: a slave is a person who is owned. Therefore, the phrase 'owned slave' is, strictly speaking, tautology. I can only see any meaning in the phrase when it is used to compare to people on a site like this searching for an owner, who perforce describe themselves as 'slave' because there is no option for them to say they 'want to be a slave'. For people trying to make it clear that they are not a want-to-be-slave but actually have an owner, they may choose to say they are a 'collared slave' or an 'owned slave'.

The time was, of course, when no one who was not owned would tolerate having a collar on them. In those days, not all slaves wore collars. So we come from a history where slavehood was more likely than being collared. Of the slaves I know personally, only one wears a permanent (metal) collar, though I have seen another of them with a leather collar on at a function. I have seen many other girls wear collars almost as fashion accessories (and I've noticed a lot of vicars wear them, too), which is fine but not to be confused with the OP's meaning when they talk about a 'collared slave'.

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