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New York Transportation - 12/20/2005 8:32:07 PM

FangsNfeet

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My oh my, what is it with this STRIKE in New Yorks transportaion union department?

It's Christmas and the underground railroad is down. I don't know all the facts but it has to SUCK Big TIME to be living in New York City and having to shop for presents. With all the new traffic and side walk congestion, only Taxi Drivers can be happy.

Would anyone care to go into more exact detail of what is going on and what outcomes New York is looking at if the trains don't get rolling again?

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RE: New York Transportation - 12/21/2005 12:57:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

My oh my, what is it with this STRIKE in New Yorks transportaion union department?

It's Christmas and the underground railroad is down. I don't know all the facts but it has to SUCK Big TIME to be living in New York City and having to shop for presents. With all the new traffic and side walk congestion, only Taxi Drivers can be happy.

Would anyone care to go into more exact detail of what is going on and what outcomes New York is looking at if the trains don't get rolling again?

What can I say.... it's those greedy public employee unions and their sense of entitlement to increased wages and compensation packages, iregardless of the deficit spending and the state of the union.

Honestly... I think they need a swift kick in the ass so they're brought back down to reality. Wages and compensation package increases for public employees should be commensurate with the current revenue stream brought in by the tax payers{Which is in direct correlation to the current state of the economy}. Does anyone really think that the tax payers should be asked to pay more in order to fund increased wages and compensation packages, when everyone in the private sector is either experiencing wage cuts or being laid off.

I read the other day that a janitor who cleans the subway cars, who works no more that six hrs a day, makes as much as 70k a year. I know people with masters degrees who have high debit service vis a vis their student loans, who make less than that janitor but work harder. Come on.... lets get real.

I think public employees should be treated no different than their counterparts in the private sector. When times are tough... we need to down size and become more leaner. Personally, I'd skeltonize the state and federal workforce and cut all the chicken slop out of the upper echelons of the bureaucracy.

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RE: New York Transportation - 12/21/2005 11:58:34 AM

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http://nytimes.com/2005/12/21/nyregion/nyregionspecial3/21cnd-strike.html?hp&ex=1135227600&en=6ea13bcca6d0ebc3&ei=5094&partner=homepage

fines of up to $25,000 on individuals plus now talk of jail time for union leaders. the parent union board doesn't agree with the decisions made by the ny transit union. basically most nyc residents are not happy and are hoping the union participants are all fined. it's messy to say the least:

"Traffic was snarled again today along many of the city's major roadways, including the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, as many commuters tried to get into Manhattan before a 5 a.m. ban on cars with fewer than four people took effect. The prohibition ends at 11 a.m. each day there is a transit strike."

"The strike began after talks between the union and the transportation authority were halted Monday night after the union rejected the authority's last offer. The authority had agreed to drop its previous demand to raise the retirement age for a full pension to 62 for new transit employees, up from 55 for current employees, but said it expected all future transit workers to pay 6 percent of their wages toward their pensions, up from the current 2 percent."

"On Tuesday, Justice Jones called the strike illegal and ordered the union members back to work. He also hit the union with a contempt order requiring a $1 million fine for each day it is on strike. And he said he would consider $1,000 daily fines of its leaders, on top of the automatic fines against individual workers."

"The order sets off penalties against striking members of Local 100 of one day's pay, in addition to one day of lost wages for every day they are on strike, as stipulated under the state's Taylor Law. Those fines are separate from any fines that may be levied as part of the injunction being sought by the city."

"A spokesman for the Office of Emergency Management, Jarrod Bernstein, said this morning that congestion was reported at some of the Metro-North stations in the Bronx, with the worst crowding at the Fordham Station. Traffic helicopters for local television stations showed lines that stretched at least five blocks as people waited to get into the station."

"Commuters will also be hoping for a better commute than Tuesday evening's rush at Pennsylvania Station. Tens of thousands of confused Long Island Rail Road passengers sought entrance to the station but were directed to one of four entrances - all of them clogged with people - that often did not correspond to their departing train."

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