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ORIGINAL: mystickoolaid

I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this  thread or not... but anyhow... I was talking to a potential sub and he told me he was 'sunstrapped'. I had never heard of this before, so I asked what it was. This is the response I got:

that is where i was made to lay out in sun till i was sunburned...then my owner took a thin leather belt and whpped my back FULL FORCE over the sunburned back, about 100 lashes usually...it was for SEVERE punishments ...i hated it, but i admit it has humbled me more

What do you guys think? Reasonable punishment or abuse?

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

... We dont' even know that this actually -happened-, and yet someone's reputation could be completely ruined based on peoples' speculations and interference.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

And far too many reputations get ruined by hearsay.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: mystickoolaid
It wasn't ALL chatroom drama. He actually offered to have her call me but I'm weird about my phone number. Like I just said, we'd been talking for a while before any of this came out.

I beg to differ. This was all info gleaned through you meeting this guy in an internet chat room. You might have even spoken to him on the phone but that was never made clear. You only spoke to her online. You don't know any of these people in real life. I was responding to ODadEO's assertion that there should be some blacklisting happening. Over what? Some type on a screen? Possibly a voice on a telephone? I'm sorry but even if the guy was standing right in front of me bearing scars it still wouldn't give me all of the facts.

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ORIGINAL: ODadEO

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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

... We dont' even know that this actually -happened-, and yet someone's reputation could be completely ruined based on peoples' speculations and interference.

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

And far too many reputations get ruined by hearsay.

Yes, I agree with you both -- I am not one to jump to conclusions, I am only stating that behavior as stated by the OP (if it is true) is not just wrong, but negligently so.  I am not advocating a black-listing site or some such thing, but still, some people need to be outed for things they pull.  But I agree, proof needs to be had, not just assertions or rumors.

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Reporting someone to support for abuse of the service is not the same as blacklisting.  If you think someone c-mailing or chatting with you is clearly underage, or otherwise violating the terms of service of the site, please report it to the Support button on the other side.  Blacklisting gets into a nasty area, where people say, "Watch out for that mystickoolaid.  I offered to lick her feet and she wouldn't let me.  She's fake.  Her photo is too pixelated and she didn't capitalize her nick."

Also, you will go crazy trying to keep a thread on a single topic.  I would suggest letting the conversation go more or less in the direction it flows, understanding that it is not a personal jab against you if people change the subject.

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ORIGINAL: mystickoolaid
I fixed my pic. Go check it out. :)

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ORIGINAL: agirl

 Half of the people posting here would be *evil* if their methods and actions were up for scrutiny by the other half.

It seems extreme to YOU , it's not something YOU would do, it's not something YOU would condone ....... that doesn't make it in the least bit abusive.

And as mistoferin said ...... a reputation can be damaged by hearsay crap...and in my experience...... the *subbie* version is generally the one voiced.

There is abuse and there is abuse.........and one form is dissing with a one sided account of a situation.

agirl

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ORIGINAL: Lordi71

If he is not joking or its a fanatsy I would say that it was a very dangerous thing to do. I would tend to use deep heat instead of sun becasue the effects of the sun would last for a very long time, where deep heat cream can be lessend using cold milk, which reduces any kind of chemical burn.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: Lordi71

If he is not joking or its a fanatsy I would say that it was a very dangerous thing to do. I would tend to use deep heat instead of sun becasue the effects of the sun would last for a very long time, where deep heat cream can be lessend using cold milk, which reduces any kind of chemical burn.

You'll have more luck with Arnica but deep heat will only use a chemical burn if you are allergic, otherwise it is temporary very unpleasant and all it does is increase the blood circulation in the area, hence the heating up of skin.

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ORIGINAL: mystickoolaid

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ORIGINAL: agirl

 Half of the people posting here would be *evil* if their methods and actions were up for scrutiny by the other half.

It seems extreme to YOU , it's not something YOU would do, it's not something YOU would condone ....... that doesn't make it in the least bit abusive.

And as mistoferin said ...... a reputation can be damaged by hearsay crap...and in my experience...... the *subbie* version is generally the one voiced.

There is abuse and there is abuse.........and one form is dissing with a one sided account of a situation.

agirl

He didn't enjoy it, and supposedly  "she" admitted to doing it. I think the treatment of a sub/slave should make the relationship enjoyable and  agreeable to both, but some Dominants would disagree with me.

Thanks for your opinion.

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ORIGINAL: Maya2001

  Some people also get off on mental sadism or mind fucks  which could include suggestive outing,  sugg estive public display/humiliation/degradation within private play without actual intent to do so.. as the suggestive imagery of doing is enough of get off on and creates the big O .

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ORIGINAL: mystickoolaid

I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this  thread or not... but anyhow... I was talking to a potential sub and he told me he was 'sunstrapped'. I had never heard of this before, so I asked what it was. This is the response I got:

that is where i was made to lay out in sun till i was sunburned...then my owner took a thin leather belt and whpped my back FULL FORCE over the sunburned back, about 100 lashes usually...it was for SEVERE punishments ...i hated it, but i admit it has humbled me more

What do you guys think? Reasonable punishment or abuse?

ABUSE!

CP

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ORIGINAL: mystickoolaid

You were both also consenting to those things. It's give and take. And these kind of dynamics need to be discussed in full as to what is expected from both parties. Doing something to 'treat' someone else wasn't included in what I said. 

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ORIGINAL: Maya2001

Icy hot would be similar

sign up to fetlife.com and pay attention to some of the sub photos   especially of the female butts   and in some cases breasts

some are extremely bruised , but there are others that are shredded and bloody...many would tell you it was painful and not enjoyable at the time but they display their wounded butts as badges of honor  and are proud  of them having done this for their Dom/me  and you  will see comments below from both subs and Doms of congratulations  and pleasures at beholding the sight of.
Some of us would view this as too extreme and abusive  for ourselves  but if you ask them , they would disagree with that ..that is the level they like to play at and it is not abuse as long as they consent too.   Some people also get off on mental sadism or mind fucks  which could include suggestive outing,  sugg estive public display/humiliation/degradation within private play without actual intent to do so.. as the suggestive imagery of doing is enough of get off on and creates the big O .

when I was younger ..there was no talk of cancer related to sunburns, and I used to be extremely active in water sports starting a a very young age (competitive and recreational swimming, boating, waterskiing, sailboarding, bodysurfing  etc) so pretty much at the start of very season  I would end up burnt  sometimes several times in the same season before getting enough of a tan to stop burning some more extreme than others, even milder sun burns  will hurt and burn later the first day without any real skin damage occuring after,  sometimes you cannot tell how extreme the burn is till a couple days later when the skin swelling remains and the oozing and blistering starts...so the Domme might have timed it for a mild burn  but the the belting it might have made it feel  more severe than it truly was... so how  the skin reacts over the next 2 or 3 days  is the key to how severe the burn really was.

now getting a sunburn may not be a good idea but skin cancer  due to sun usually is a result of repetitive  burns to the  skin that has cause damage below the skin surface  so one incident is not likely to result in getting cancer....most of what we do involves some level of risk or a level of damage..  just as temporarily cutting off circulation  or impact play which involves varying amounts of capillary damage, abrasions which damages surface cells and yet we do consent to having some damage done when playing .. though the levels of damage varies from to person to what they will consent to and we decide what is an acceptablelevel  for us...not by what others deem as acceptable...if we chose to follow the acceptable  by the majority of the population then most BDSM activities would cease to exist