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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

You know, I get the impression that public houses (pubs) are going to go back to their roots. Example, my friends have open house at their place of a weekend - well open in the sense of people they know and friends of friends. Everyone brings their own drink, smoking is allowed in a couple of rooms - one of which is the room with the drum kit and guitars etc. Those preferring a chat can get one, those who want to watch a video with friends can watch it, those who want to get noisy can do so without causing problems and those who want to smoke can.

To my mind, this is an ideal model for a pub and the model more or less whereby they originated - someone's house. Originally that person was the one who was best at making beer, nowadays its that person who has a big enough house and a sociable nature.

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Whatever, whoever has created the extortionate price in beer has created the end of the institution that is the British public house.

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I agree with you, but that wasnt my point. My nephews and their friends will go out of a weekend regardless of costs. Supermarket beer could be free but they would still go clubbing. I am the same in the week, if I want to use a pub then I do. More often than not it is the loud music act that keeps me at home, although I concede I dont go out as much as I used to.

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By cuutting cheap supermarket alcohol, you alienate the poor, the cost of beer in pubs already alientates the poor when the problem of anti social behaviour  is not to be found with the people who drink at locals or at home, it is the town places, the watering holes often with bouncers on doors. If government hits them hard, where will they go next ?

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My local intentionally cut it's clientele in favour of social drinkers, it kicked the chavs out and with them the drug dealers, petty criminals and underage drinkers, it is now a pleasant pub, but it's dying.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

It seems to me there are two types of pub now. The traditional type where people can have a quite drink ( My local goes back 400 years, and still has the original fireplaces ) Then we have the modern type whose aim is to cram everyone into a themed pub, loud music and happy hours. When I first moved down here, my local was more like a free house, but seems to have gone downhill since Scottish and Newcastle took it over. Oh for the days of proper pub grub, cooked on the premises, and real beer.... And a decent Mild !

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Or a brown bitter.

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

missturbation, I really thought about you and your pub when I read this article.

I am so glad that you and the those in the UK are telling us first hand what is going on.
 
THAT is one of the advantages of having these message boards, you are THERE.
 
I actually have been to England!  I was a very UM, my father was stationed in Germany
at the time, so I don't recall the pubs.
I have not yet traveled to Britain as an adult, and when I think of the UK, I always think of
the wonderful neighborhood pubs!
It is something that many of us around the world, see as wonderful, unique and charming.
Your pubs have been around for what? Hundreds of years?  I always thought of it as a place
where local friends gathered to talk, share news, have fun, and maybe have a drink.
 
I don't know what the answer is, but I hate to hear that many of the small neighborhood pubs,
are closing.
We have had many of the small neighborhood shops and local clubs and bars close around here,
and it is a real loss.
I think your government should make sure that you don't lose to many small pubs, it is part of your country's charm and could even effect tourism!

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

It seems to me there are two types of pub now. The traditional type where people can have a quite drink ( My local goes back 400 years, and still has the original fireplaces ) Then we have the modern type whose aim is to cram everyone into a themed pub, loud music and happy hours. When I first moved down here, my local was more like a free house, but seems to have gone downhill since Scottish and Newcastle took it over. Oh for the days of proper pub grub, cooked on the premises, and real beer.... And a decent Mild !

My pub is owned by scottish and newcastle lol. I agree they are crap. You can get real ale all over the place nowadays but unfortunately its places like wetherspoons that have the best range on. They usually have around ten different hand pulls.
 

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Or a brown bitter.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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By cuutting cheap supermarket alcohol, you alienate the poor, the cost of beer in pubs already alientates the poor when the problem of anti social behaviour  is not to be found with the people who drink at locals or at home, it is the town places, the watering holes often with bouncers on doors. If government hits them hard, where will they go next ?

You are kidding yourself if you think anti social behaviour only exists in town centre pubs and clubs.
 

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My local intentionally cut it's clientele in favour of social drinkers, it kicked the chavs out and with them the drug dealers, petty criminals and underage drinkers, it is now a pleasant pub, but it's dying.

Town centre pub or a contradiction of the above.
 
You won't be alienating anyone by bringing beer prices into line. The poor may have to cut down on their drinking but is that such a bad thing considering the majority of people drink well over their reccomended units of alcohol a week?
 

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

That is beyond sad.
No heat? No kitchen?
Someone should have a fundraiser to help raise money to restore that
wonderful historic building.
What a shame miss.

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ORIGINAL: missturbation
You won't be alienating anyone by bringing beer prices into line. The poor may have to cut down on their drinking but is that such a bad thing considering the majority of people drink well over their reccomended units of alcohol a week?