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Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 4:07:29 AM

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I recently spoke with a delightful young girl who is into being degraded via forced anal and water sports. She began to tell me of her fantasy of being used as a full service urinal aka toilet slave...

I am familar with girls who do piss drinking and piss enemas..and the incremental approach to train a slave girl to relieve ones bladder in these two orifices...

but when she expressed an interest in having her vagina pissed in.

I told her it was a health hazard...

my knowledge in this (vaginal urination) comes from medical text not real life however....

Is there anyone who knows of a direct experience with this?
Is it indeed a health hazard?

..or are there people who have enjoyed this kink with no ill effects?

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 4:57:48 AM

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I have an extensive medical background that I speak from, although it is not recent, the principals remain. First off, urine is not toxic till it has been recycled twice. Meaning, you could drink your own urine twice before it would be toxic to drink. That comes from training in desert survival skills. Not an interesting concept for most, but if your into water sports, important to know. If your going to do that sort of thing, hydrate well. Much better to be doing water sports with you drinking lots of water than dehydrated of course. It will be much stronger if dehydrated, deluted and clear if well hydrated.

As for vaginal douching with urine. Bad idea in my thinking. The vagina has lots of natural bacteria that is needed to keep things healthy down there. Doctors advice against excessive douching in the first place because it removes this natural bacteria, making room for bad bacteria or other problems. Douching with urine opens the door for lots of questions. It would most certainly act like a douch in removing natural bacteria, and can potientially leave room for other forms of bacteria or other problems. Remember again the dehydration thing. The stronger the urine, the more crystals and other minerals that will be in the urine. That could cause irritation in the sensitive tissues of the vagina. Nature put the ureathra outside of the vagina for a reason. I would recommend standard douching after that sort of water sports if you do engage in it to cleanse the vagina. Urine in itself is sterile as it comes from the body so I don't think it would introduce infection, but most certainly could introduce something like a yeast infection. Never met a woman that enjoyed those.

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 5:14:06 AM

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actually my concern was more from the high pressure stream of liquid passing the cervix...If I understand correctly women are told to keep there legs togehter when water skiing for instance becuase of the danger of the spray shooting up..inside of them and causing damage or even inducing an embolism

thanks for your insights
keep them coming

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 7:46:08 AM

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No one seen dodgeball?! Sorry just a lil light releif

Patches "is it necerery to drink my own urine? Probably not, but I like the taste and its sterile!"

fantastic, remember holiday doesnt lie:P

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 8:18:06 AM

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If I understand correctly women are told to keep there legs togehter when water skiing for instance becuase of the danger of the spray shooting up..inside of them and causing damage or even inducing an embolism

Oh BOY would I like to see a citation on that? The craze about "cervical embolism" got started prior to Roe v Wade. At that time, quacks sometimes attached a probe to a bicycle pump to blow air into the cervix and eliminate the independent growing group of cells. Because the cervix is a vascular area, sometimes air, not water, got into the blood stream and formed an embolus, causing an embolism.

While not particularly intelligently designed, the human body has been altered by evolution to tend to protect itself (the models that didn't often failed to reproduce). The vaginal's external barriers and internal muscle rings are well set up to prevent the entry of both casual splashes and even significant water pressure. Just chat with a SCUBA diver sometime.

More significantly, the cervix is sealed with a mucus plug to separate it's ecology from that of the vagina. Any guy who can't write his name in urine on a ten foot ceiling isn't going to piss that way.

Actually, my only concern is exactly the same concern I have with the current craze of flavored and perfumed vaginal douches. A healthy vagina has a complex microsopic ecology, you don't want to treat them the way Katrina treated New Orleans.

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 8:34:19 AM

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so then you are saying
it is OK to Piss in her mouth
but not in her Vaginal canal

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 9:24:35 AM

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the vagina. Urine in itself is sterile as it comes from the body so I don't think it would

Urin is only sterial untill it leaves the body, then it is open to air and all the germs and everything

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 9:36:11 AM

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The vaginal maintains a normal flora, that is, a slightly acidic environment that is maintained by the presence of normal bacteria and serves to fight other bacteria should it be introduced. This normal flora is generally enough to fight off infection, but our bodies arent perfect. Many factors effect the state of the normal flora, such as your diet, your hygiene, your menstrual cycle, etc. So at times we are more susceptible to infection than other times.

Urine, in theory, is sterile, but actually it's not. The minute it passes through the urethra
it picks up any bacteria that is present on the skin surrounding the urethra. So, again, in theory, it would be OK to drink our own urine because we would be ingesting "our own germs", if you will, but to drink anothers would be exposing us to germs that our own bodies have not developed antibodies against. There is enough acid in the oral cavity and in the stomach to kill off most germs ( and I use the word "germ" to include viruses, bacteria, yeast spores, etc), but the environment in the vagina is, at best, only slightly acidic. So although it has some protection against the introduction of infection, it's not foolproof. I think it would be wise to avoid urination in the vaginal cavity.

As a sidenote, if your partner is infected with a bloodborne disease, such as HIV, Hep B and C, these viruses are carried in all body fluids, some fluids having a higher ratio of infectious components than others. Urine has a fairly high ratio, meaning blood carries the highest and tears probably the least. As a nurse, I would want to avoid contact with urine on a cut or open sore on my hand, for example. The chance that I would be exposed to these pathogens would be somewhat remote, but the risk is there. So any open wound exposure to urine, including a cut on the lip or a sore on the gum, is risky behavior. I wouldn't drink urine unless I knew my partners health and hygiene status through and through. I wouldn't drink it anyway. That's just gross.

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 9:46:51 AM

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A vaginal air embolus??? That's a new one on me.
I suppose it's possible if you attached a tube to a bicycle pump and put the tube in my uterus. Thank god for Roe v. Wade. IMHO.

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/23/2005 10:24:04 AM

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so then you are saying
it is OK to Piss in her mouth
but not in her Vaginal canal

Binary thinking is often sloppy thinking.

What I implied is that there are additional danger factors in vaginal urination that are absent from oral unrination.

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/28/2005 11:05:30 PM

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I've always heard that urine is sterile TO YOURSELF, as long as you don't recycle it twice within some period of time (a day?). It is not sterile to others, from what I've heard and common sense.

Obviously AIDS is a big risk that is another good reason not to use the vagina as a urinal.

Besides, why use the vagina as a urinal, when you already have an orifice that's built for that? -- the mouth.

(Don't apply the same logic to anal sex. LOL)

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RE: Full service human Urinal, Danger? - 12/29/2005 5:24:41 AM

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I've always heard that urine is sterile TO YOURSELF, as long as you don't recycle it twice within some period of time (a day?). It is not sterile to others, from what I've heard and common sense.

I've heard this before and I think it's a confusion between "infectious" and "sterile." Obviously, if one had cholera, one could not become infected by drinking cholera laden water, so such a substance wouldn't seen to be "infectious to that person."

"Sterile" is the absence of microorganisms. There's no such thing as "sterile to a specific person." Sterile is sterile.

Fresh urine regardless of the source is recommended as a wound cleaning agent absent a source of clean water in some military texts.

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