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yourMissTress -> Sadists and Masochists (11/27/2008 9:05:51 PM)
I'm Tress, and I'm a sadist. I take great pleasure in causing, creating, and evoking mental and physical pain. It excites me, and the farther I can take it, the hotter it is. While there are some activities that always turn me on (pain slut or not, I love to inflict it), there are others that don't really do anything for me unless they are causing discomfort in another person. Those things can become my favorite things to do with that person. Sometimes it confounds me. I am, at times, left wondering "how is it that this activity, prior to exploring it with this person, wasn't of much interest to me if any? but now I am completely into it?". I know that it's the energy exchanged and the way that they are suffering for me. More importantly, it's simply that the emotion or pain evoked can only be elicited in this particular person in this intensity by that specific activity. It is not the activity itself that's turning me on, it's the effect. Getting deep enough into someone to know that what works to elicit the effect that I want and succeeding in that endeavor is where I truly get the high, the adrenaline rush and the excitement. What does it for you? Masochists, I understand the idea that being on the receiving end is where you get your thrills, can you tell me why and what does it for you?

Aszhrae -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/27/2008 9:11:25 PM)
Certainly Miss Tress, For me it had always been lashing, piercing and feral play (biting and clawing), and since girl has recently experienced ass play, you can put that in there as well. Public humiliation has always been a downer for me, but pain makes me wet, always has and always will.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/27/2008 9:38:53 PM)
What gets it for me as a top is knowing that they are going where I'm going to take them. What gets it for me as a bottom is knowing I don't have to worry about it, just to be honest and open.

frenchbitchchris -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/27/2008 10:09:36 PM)
Maso describes me more then anything. I am Dominant in nature but I love getting the shit kicked out of me and being treated like an object which is why I am a slave. I am an owned 24/7 slave of 13 years and I have not been happier in different situations. My Owner kicks me, beats me, bites me, and generally f_cks me up. I love it! I think I even love it more knowing that it isn't out of sexual tension but just because He wants to hurt me. 3 Therapist have tried to analyse me as to why I like this..... They came up with the fact that my Dad left is why I like it. Uhhh I just like it! lol The more you beat me the more I know you love me. Twisted. Feeling lower then dirt is comfortable...... it is my contentment. --french bitch--

yourMissTress -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/27/2008 10:20:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: frenchbitchchris I love getting the shit kicked out of me and being treated like an object which is why I am a slave. I am an owned 24/7 slave of 13 years and I have not been happier in different situations. My Owner kicks me, beats me, bites me, and generally f_cks me up. I love it! I think I even love it more knowing that it isn't out of sexual tension but just because He wants to hurt me. --french bitch-- Ok, that's just damned hot.

missturbation -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 3:21:16 AM)
I agree with frenchbitchchris, there is nothing like someone kicking the shit out of me just because they want to. It isn't quite as fulfilling for me when i'm suffering for their sexual pleasure as when i'm just suffering because they want to make me. I get my highest highs from the things that i despise such as canes, leather and wooden paddles. I do not enjoy the sensations from these toys in any way and suffer horribly from their use. It pleases me more when i please him by truely suffering and almost feeling abused.

ResidentSadist -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 4:32:04 AM)
What gets it for me . . . let me count the ways. So much to say, such a small forum. Like you, I get off on someone else’s displeasure whether it is mental or physical pain. I also get off on masochistic pain sluts that love being beaten and humiliation lovers. There are so many tasty facets of pleasure in all that for me. -=The sweet romantic side=- Publicly acceptable perspective… The most romantic side of sexual sadiam and sexual masochism is when it feels like the person suffering is doing as a sacrifice. Knowing that my slave is enduring this for me is proof of their love and dedication. It warms my heart, which in turn fires my passions. Suffer for me baby girl, suffer for me and let me see your tears. I like it when they cry... Have you ever seen a slave love her Master so deeply that she cries from the emotional release after a good beating? Have you ever seen a slave feel so passionate that she crosses the pleasure/pain threshold and cums so intensely that it makes her weep? Have you ever seen trust so deep and complete that tears flow when she follows Master faithfully and overcomes her fears? I thrive on the connection, the bonds between a Master and slave and between a sadist and masochist. I love seeing the look on my slave's face when I see that I control her and what she is feeling. I like to cross Masterism with sadism while I explore emotional fears, expand physical limits, break mental boundaries and fulfill forbidden desires. I passionately mix love, torture, sex, fear, pleasure, pain, anguish, lust, trust and I test faith. I want to see tears of joy, tears of pain, tears of love, tears of pleasure and tears from fear... I like it when they cry. Guys like me really want to hurt girls like you! As far as my sadism goes, there are many flavors with physical, mental and the emotional dynamics. Teaching my slave to cross the pleasure/pain threshold where all stimuli only serves to intensify passion and orgasm is one aspect that drives my sadism. My sado-sexual wiring is pretty intense and can be measured by the increased stiffness of my arousal with every stroke of pain I give. It is very pleasing for me to fuck my slave and give her pain at the same time so we can achieve sexual bliss that is otherwise unreachable. Putting my slave on her hands and knees, mounting her from behind and mixing the rhythm of penetration with strokes from a cat-o-9 tails is bliss to me. I get deep satisfaction from applying pain to my slave's orgasm and it intensifies my own. It also fills my desire to control her and feeds the Master/slave dynamics. It works out well for both of us because I get the control I seek and my slave gets the release she desires. Inflicting physical pain is not a primary requirement for me nor is it solely the defining factor of sadism or masochism. Finding pleasure and passion in service, surrender, ownership, fear or humiliation are most important. I like to mix all that with love and trust for an intense experience. I am not cruel and I do not derive pleasure from physically torturing strangers. My sadism is better served by love and sacrifice.

ResidentSadist -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 5:31:11 AM)
What gets it for me? Let me count the ways again. Now that all the sappy sweet politically correct stuff is out of the way (see above post), lets get down to the nitty gritty sadistic perspectives with a more violent sexual twist. -=Not so sweet side=- Unsafe, insane and non consensual is the slogan on my T-shirt. TPE is the only style relationship suitable for my tastes because I have so many non consensual habits from my long term exposure to total compliance. Rape, torture, objectification and humiliation have to be ok with my slave and her only choice is to comply or remove the collar and take her freedom. Removing the collar is my cue that she is outside my dominion. My slaves have to believe there are no victims, only volunteers. I have learned that if someone thinks there are victims, they will eventually view themselves as a victim of my sadistic and/or dominant nature. That’s just not good relationship chemistry. Not publicly acceptable perspective… I am very dominant. I like being in control. Fuck the willing sacrifice of a loving slave! I will take what I want because I am stronger and more powerful. The fact you don’t like it, the fact you are pissed that you are helpless to stop me, the look on your face that shows you despise me for doing this to you only inspires me further. At times I can be brutal … I want to hurt you more to prove my control then I want to fuck you taking my pleasure from your pain and discomfort. Other times I want to sexually stimulate you, forcing you to feel pleasure, forcing your body to betray you and submit to an orgasm induced by your tormentor. I love resistance. If I could kidnap a maiden from her village, bind her over a bench, beat her, fuck her, get her pregnant, force her to have my child and only allow her to raise it if she pledges herself to me… well, that would fine in my book. Fortunately for my past slaves and potentials future slaves, this isn’t the middle ages. Extreme Medical play & Rape… I owned an OB-GYN facility (and managed several others). My medical play often occurred in real clinics, with real medical equipment and real drugs like nitrous oxide (laughing gas) and Trilene gas (sleeping gas). Whether is was painful surgical incisions and sutures or seeing someone under anesthesia and totally in your control is an amazingly powerful feeling. The exam table bondage and torture "play" was awesome and included things like ultrasound insertion pictures, sleeping gas rape/group rape, forced bisexuality, medical sounds & dilators, nitrous enhanced orgasms and just about anything and everything else you can imagine. Public Bondage & Rape… I like hiding a bound and gagged nude slave in a public building's utility closet where there is risk of her being discovered. Imagine laying there bound in the closet, hearing people pass by and any one of them could be your undoing. Then a set of footsteps approaches and the door opens. It isn't Master... the man closes the door and demands you suck his cock in return for his silence. You refuse because Master has to give you permission for such things. You are naked, gagged and bound helplessly when he rolls you over and starts to rape you. Then the door opens again and Master walks is saying, "well, if you won't suck his cock, then you'll have to suck my mine". ...you had no way to know that it was Master's friend, it was a set up to see if you would disobey and they had been guarding the door and you were safe all that time. Of course I also enjoy the less risky public dungeon and typical BDSM party bondage activities too. Forced or Coerced Bisexuality (Rape)… Long ago when it wasn’t life threatening to sport fuck strangers, I had an OB-GYN exam table in my house and it was retrofitted with shackles. My slave or I would hunt up a heterosexual girl, take her home and get her in bed or on the exam table. I would lick her while my slave blindfolded her. Once she was blinded, we would switch partners so she didn't know a girl was between her legs. When she reached orgasm, I would rip the blindfold off. I haven’t practiced sport fucking like this in many years though, it seems too risky nowadays.

mummyman321 -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 5:34:23 AM)
For me it is the ultimate submission. Taking my mind and body both to a point of total exhaustion at which point I become totally helpless and surrender to the Domme whether I want to or not. I am typically dominant in every day life. I am extremely dominant at work. I constantly multitask even when not work. So taking play to a point when my mind and body slowly begin to focus only on the moment and only the immeadiate energy exchange happening is a tremendous feeling. Its not only an addreanline rush, but its mental reeling and physical exhaustion also. The combined effect is like no other! It becomes the ultimate submission. You are completely focused on the Domme's actions. You want to hear the excitement in her voice. You want to feel her touch even though it will bring pain. You want to feel that energy exchange. Doing a long drawn out session (12 - 20 hours)with the right Domme will leave me on an emotional high for weeks.

CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 7:17:20 AM)
It is somewhat hard to explain, for me, but I think that Vampiric philosophy suits -- I am what I am, and I can hurt you and expose your weakness. I hunt, you fall, and that is as it should be. I love not only their tears, but the smell and taste of their blood. I love to pierce the fragile shell that is their flesh, and expose their naked life to my hands and the outer world. How can I love such a thing? I no longer judge why this is, I merely accept it as the world being the way that it is.

lally3 -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 11:53:07 AM)
its so reassuring to read threads like this - i think because the whole masochism thing can be confusing. not understanding why i need to suffer, wanting to suffer for my D because it gives him pleasure, submitting to him and his control much more than to what he is doing, being able to react naturally to the pain and knowing that is what he is enjoying - struggling, pushing myself further than i think i can is a hugely important part of the dynamic i crave. i need to feel helpless, i need to struggle, it needs to hurt so much im having to hold myself still by shere force of submissive will power. for me its that full expression of submission to something very difficult for the sole purpose of giving pleasure, bending to the will of my D, his control and judgement. the pain is almost secondary - its really more a vehicle through which i can express my physical submission to him.

lally3 -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 12:00:54 PM)
If I could kidnap a maiden from her village, bind her over a bench, beat her, fuck her, get her pregnant, force her to have my child and only allow her to raise it if she pledges herself to me… well, that would fine in my book. Fortunately for my past slaves and potentials future slaves, this isn’t the middle ages. sadly you dont have to go back to the middle ages to discover that this practice is infact alive and well and separating many a young woman from her family and any healthy future. sorry to be a jerk - just felt the need to point this out.

KnightofMists -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 12:02:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yourMissTress What does it for you? I can't say there is one thing that does it more for me than any other. It isn't what I use or what I am doing... it's always the result that does it for me. The result is simply my perception that I have inflicting pain upon their bodies. I am very deliberate in my approach to keeping my girls in a conscious state of awareness that makes all the sensation I am giving them rather crisp and intensely painful. I like to be creative in what I am going to do as it keeps my bottoms off-balance and by itself can be a pleasurable mind-fuck during a scene with them wondering what I am going to do next. About the only thing they can expect is that it will hurt... well at some point..then again maybe not. Sometimes I just mind fuck them into being afraid of the pain that I going to bring and leave them hanging.... the frustration on their part is rather sadistically amusing. I do mental, emotional and physical pain depending on my moods. In many ways.. every day of every moment is a scene for me. I can't recall the exact quote that Fifth Angel used but it goes some thing like As a Master it is his job to care for them.. and as a Sadist.. it's his job to fuck them up. I really like to fuck them up on occassions... Earlier today, Kyra called for permission to have a pop.. for about 10 minutes I toyed with her building her frustration because I was purposely skirting around her request. It is just one of the little pleasures of life s that I get to enjoy on occassion. I guess if there is a favor thing with regards to my sadistic tendencies.... It's being Unpredictable of what I am going to do with them.

Passion357 -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 4:37:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lally3 If I could kidnap a maiden from her village, bind her over a bench, beat her, fuck her, get her pregnant, force her to have my child and only allow her to raise it if she pledges herself to me… well, that would fine in my book. Fortunately for my past slaves and potentials future slaves, this isn’t the middle ages. sadly you dont have to go back to the middle ages to discover that this practice is infact alive and well and separating many a young woman from her family and any healthy future. sorry to be a jerk - just felt the need to point this out. Greetings, All, But just what if said maiden secretly liked what was happening..? (Had to be the bearer of good news there) I confess RS is my favorite poster and has been since the first few times I read his words. They come from my own head. Things I just imagine and think will never happen. (the one about the bound slave in the closet and the MEANING, to see if she would disobey is beautiful!! oh and all of the rest of it too seriously I can't stress enough. Those are my thoughts.) I, too, am SO reassured to see threads like this because they remind me (literally word for word) that my own desires are perfectly fine and I'm not alone. I am not sure what I can add. 2 people have already stated what I feel LOL. (RS and frenchbitch) I completely agree with the sick twisted demented mind set. It's my life and who I am. But now I pose a question.....to slaves like frenchbitch and missturbation: Do you start to get "sick" when you don't get your proper dosage of sick and twisted treated like shit torture? Do you just start to kinda wither away? Feel so alone and maybe even unwanted? By sick I mean go from a healthy and happy tortured slut to a weakling with aches and pains who just wants to cry...or is it just me? Well Wishes, ~Passion~ edited to correct name changes and add appropriate punctuation. Did I mention I am a new Mom and can't think straight often? grin

Jeptha -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 6:48:49 PM)
I haven't had the opportunity to explore this very much; it's literally only been perhaps one extra-hard stroke with a riding crop and a few medium-hard face slaps here and there. But those few incidences were very electric and exciting and did definitely make a lasting impression on me. Those glimpses were fascinating and compelling. I've played with pain a lot, but I would consider most of my experience more within the realm of sensation play than anything I'd call truly sadistic. My partners haven't been very masochistic heretofore (at least to the best of my ability to discern; which ability, while surely not flawless, is still reasonably servicable I believe), so I've respected their limits while exploring around the edges somewhat. Very curious, though, and am enjoying this thread.

aravain -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/28/2008 10:46:28 PM)
It's the pain... I register it simultaneously as pleasure... it hurts and feels good. It's hard to explain. I simply love it, though. Other than that, I don't really like humiliation, and I have enough emotional pain without someone else inflicting it on purpose. But I do love slight objectification, being used as an object for someone's pleasure (be it sadistic or sexual) but not beyond the scope of one 'encounter' or a short time.

NorthernGent -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/29/2008 1:05:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yourMissTress What does it for you? Nothing to do with 'enduring for me', or any other grand notion; it's simply a case of a desire to inflict pain on someone who desires that pain. I have quite easily taken what I needed without regard for her position, nor hint of remorse - within the broad framework of her masochism. It's part of my character - at times equipped with a heart of gold; at other times equipped with a heart made of stone. It's simply taking what I need - power, pleasure, reaction etc.

myotherself -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/29/2008 1:38:53 AM)
~fr~ as someone who spends waaaay too much time trying to figure myself out, this is where I am at the moment. I am a masochist - I have identified as this for the last 6 or so years since I 'found' the scene. I have two main kinks within this broad title. Firstly, I get off on my partner getting off. If I can see/hear/feel/smell/whatever his arousal from doing something to me, then I get aroused too. If he's just doing it to make ME happy, then it ain't making me happy... I don't do the 'suffering to prove I'm a sub' thing - I'm not wired that way. I do the 'suffering to get us both off' thing. Secondly, I need intensity in sex. Having sex with someone who spends hours on foreplay, sexual stroking, nibbling and kissing does absolutely nothing for me. I cannot reach orgasm with 'sensual sex'...I'm always left frustrated and angry. But if I get intense physical sensations from biting (my absolute fave!), scratching, hair-pulling, nipple torture, etc while we're having sex, then those sensations seem to take an express route from wherever they're happening straight to my clit, and the orgasms are mind-blowingly explosive. Just my two penn'orth

aravain -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/29/2008 1:48:41 AM)
Hmm, I had to take a while to think on it, but I think I have my 'second' answer. In addition to masochism, I enjoy a healthy dose of sadism. I like hearing someone cry out (though not actually cry, that has a tendency to make me cry, and worry about them while I try to calm them down >.>) when I hit them. I like the feel of hitting someone with a flogger/crop/paddle/whatever implement. I like coming up with arbitrary tasks that I know can't really be completed so that I can punish them for it (much like I like having that done to me. Things like 'Reach that top shelf up there and get down my pot without using anything to increase your height' when there's no way they'll be able to reach that high). Most of all? I like it when they enjoy it. I seem wired (completely) for the enjoyment of others in most things; within my sadism is the only place where that's secondary. I don't like it all the time... but every now and then I just really enjoy it.

lally3 -> RE: Sadists and Masochists (11/29/2008 2:22:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Passion357 quote: ORIGINAL: lally3 If I could kidnap a maiden from her village, bind her over a bench, beat her, fuck her, get her pregnant, force her to have my child and only allow her to raise it if she pledges herself to me… well, that would fine in my book. Fortunately for my past slaves and potentials future slaves, this isn’t the middle ages. sadly you dont have to go back to the middle ages to discover that this practice is infact alive and well and separating many a young woman from her family and any healthy future. sorry to be a jerk - just felt the need to point this out. Greetings, All, But just what if said maiden secretly liked what was happening..? (Had to be the bearer of good news there) nothing wrong with fantasy and kink - lots of people like, secretly or otherwise, the idea of being abducted and used mercilessly. its a choice youre free to make. but there are women who are being abducted, forced into unpaid prostitution with revolting individuals in some disgusting brothel, hidden from the world, locked in small dirty cells and made to have unprotected sex, separated from their children and families indefinitely. that isnt fantasy for them and not their choice. if they survive they come out of it shattered, riddled with STD's and unlikely to ever fully recover. im not normally a party pooper atall, but what we do here is a million miles away from what those women are forced to do and i appreciate that RS was simply describing a fantasy of his and i again apologise for being a jerk - but a dividing line needed to be drawn (for them) a bit melodramatic perhaps, apolgies for that too, but i dont parrallel myself to those women atall and our fantasies bear no resemblance to their living hell.

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