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Pomp - 12/3/2008 3:44:11 AM

Aneirin

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I am here for some reason watching the state opening of parliament on the tv and I just cannot help but think, all this pageantry, is a pure waste of time. Most of it harks back to an ancient time, all the wigs, uniforms and swords, not to mention the who evers wearing them, like, what is the point, just get on with it.

There are pressing needs in this country, not to mention the world and the powers that are over us can waste time on pageantry and as a result, seems to have a ' laissez faire ' attitude to what happens in this country. I personally feel there is a great seperation between the population, and those that rule us, a seperation which exists from history. Our history is all well and good as history, but it should not be the present, the present is the future history, let it not be the same.

Lords, unelected titled people, what use are they, do they not exist to maintain their own position ?

Ok, the UK parliament system, Lords and commoners, unelected and elected, a fair balance, or something that should be history ?

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RE: Pomp - 12/3/2008 4:03:22 AM

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tradition is important, but it should go. hi from across the pond, maybe that affects my opinion...

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RE: Pomp - 12/3/2008 5:29:14 AM

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I think I will dress in pagentry for jury duty. the wig and the sword sound COOL!!!!

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RE: Pomp - 12/3/2008 6:01:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin
what is the point

It demonstrates the power of the queen to be able to force other people to behave in this odd way. On the other hand, by the same token it limits he power of the queen, as she is a captive of the same system.

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RE: Pomp - 12/3/2008 6:15:46 AM

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The system, the pageantry and all that is pretty against the dull grey of London, good for tourists, but the people, the inhabitants are as seperate from it now as they ever were, nothing, or little has changed. Pomp and ceremony from a time where the man on the street was used by the lords to further their goals and maintain their position. True, peasants worked on lord's land, but who said the land was theirs anyway, who had the right to give it, but another lord who maintained their position by threat of death. The death threat has changed over the centuries, but it is now taken for granted these people have a right to the property and the wealth it generates.

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RE: Pomp - 12/3/2008 6:18:18 AM

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Hard to say really. I think tradition holds a place in the world. It can ground a country when it's shaken. It can unite. It can also make people think that those who are participants in the tradition are worthless and meaningless because it all seems so trite at times. But it can also be something the 'common folk' hold on to. I do think it's the older generations who would feel this way.

As an American, I don't think we have as much pomp as you do over there - but I do look forward to events such as the presidential swearings-in and State of the Union addresses ...

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RE: Pomp - 12/3/2008 6:27:27 AM

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I think I will dress in pagentry for jury duty. the wig and the sword sound COOL!!!!

Couldn't be any worse than the juror who showed up in a full dress Star Fleet uniform. Just make sure the reporters get your good side and smile for the cameras.

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RE: Pomp - 12/3/2008 6:36:03 AM

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I can't remember who's tag line I saw it on (I think it was Northerngent) but it said something along the lines of "tradition is allowing dead people to dictate your life."

I've never been big on cerimony and ritual of any sort. I avoid it like a plague for the most part. While I avoid ritual and cerimony, I tend to avoid things that are "traditions" as well - unless they are traditions of my own making, like celebrating the aniversary of my divorce every year in a particular manner.

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