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UncleNasty -> Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 11:10:38 AM)

3rd qrt of last year (2007) percentage of mortgages 60 days behind: 2.56

3rd qrt of this year (2008): 3.96

Projected in 4th qrt of this year (2008): 4.6

This number is unlikely to level off before 2010.

Link to full article:

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081202/mortgage_delinquencies_third_quarter.html

And the hits just keep on coming.

OHUN





Mercnbeth -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 11:40:57 AM)

OHUN,
It's a simple matter of good financial planning.

Pay your mortgage, or run your business right for that matter, and you'll have to keep on doing it on your own effort.

Don't pay your mortgage, or mismanage your business to the point of bankruptcy, and the government will send you cash. The logic of current policy, as well as the expectation of advancing that policy based upon the campaign promises of the incoming administration, make it incumbent to fail in order to be rewarded. Succeed, and you're expected to be "privileged" to pay more taxes in order to fund the failures.

Everyone should be using their December mortgage payments on gifts. Being responsible is just down right silly in light of what's coming. In the face of blossoming deficients every layer of government isn't planning on cutting back, they just want to keep on spending. Why shouldn't that example be applied to us citizens.

Hell, and if you don't have a mortgage and pay rent - why not do the same thing? Enough people don't pay and the landlords as well as you, can petition for some reward, saying you were only following the examples of others rewarded for not taking personal accountability.

Maybe you should consider using all the December bill paying money to buy one of those 'Man of the People' $30,000 rings for your spouse or significant other. Sure, that may be more than some make in year gross, but get together with a few dozen or so fellow patriots, combine your money, and share the ring around. That way, you'll get a feel for social ownership. It will set a good tone and help familiarize you with the socializing concept of collective ownership which promises to be more prevalent in the years ahead. 

Just as important to learn from the experiences of others we need to follow the examples of the people we hope to lead us. Come on - it's the patriotic thing to do!




SilverMark -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 12:16:48 PM)

So, If I take all the receipts from my stores and head to Vegas I can get a bailout?....Let's go Merc!




Mercnbeth -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 12:27:03 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SilverMark

So, If I take all the receipts from my stores and head to Vegas I can get a bailout?....Let's go Merc!

Mark,
The concept is in sync with Government policy. I'd dare say if we weren't bailed out, we could find an army of lawyers to represent us on a contingency basis to pursue a 'reasonable expectation' assertion case against the government. Obviously, although its yet to be published, in the upcoming edition of the 'New-speak Dictionary' accountability and responsibility have been removed.

We should see it as a patriotic duty!

Set the date and we'll be there!




SilverMark -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 12:35:25 PM)

There have been times when I would be better off heading to Vegas than owning a business!....and a hell of a lot more fun!...
I wish I wasn't so damn responsible!!!!!!!!




Mercnbeth -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 12:49:21 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SilverMark

There have been times when I would be better off heading to Vegas than owning a business!....and a hell of a lot more fun!...
I wish I wasn't so damn responsible!!!!!!!!


Ditto! However the offer still stands. Let us know when/if you'll planning on being there and we'll make a trip.

Always looking for an opportunity to be IRresponsible in Vegas!




SilverMark -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 12:52:09 PM)

Waaaaaaaaaay off topic but I was just there in October....cannot wait to go back!....It is the best place in the world to be irresponsible and hey, if it's patriotic...I am all for it!!!!!!!!!!
(Changes his name to Mark The Patriot)




BlackPhx -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 1:16:08 PM)

In Florida there is a potential chance for people to catch up or try to if they are so inclined and the banks have been agreeing to it. Our Governor is trying to enact a Moratorium giving a stay on foreclosures for  90 days similar to the one Schwartzenegger and Obama (wants to) enact. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sfl-1124foreclosures,0,5061114.story If they manage to do so, then it would give people who are trying a chance to catch up or even make efforts to save their homes with the agreements of the banks for forbearance payments. Whether people will take the oppourtunity to try and save their homes, remains to be seen. I know that in my area..while there are homes in foreclosure, there are also homes selling, some on short sale but the banks are doing what they can to keep people in their homes and inventory on their bottom line down.

People who go through foreclosure face more than just the loss of their homes. If the home does not sell, or sells for less than what is owed..they are liable for the balance, it's in the contracts and is something that many ignore until it comes back to bite them in the ass(et). Landlords don't want to take a risk on renting to them, and I don't know one that doesn't run a credit check. Since the major credit reporting centers work nation wide, there is no just going to another state and renting or buying. So people are trying to work things out. Some are re-upping with the military, the sign on bonuses go to pay off arrears, others are taking whatever they can get, temp jobs, day labor, garage saling, taking in boarders, anything they can do to raise the money to stay in their homes. They are cutting services to the bone to save money and apply it to the mortgage, borrowing from family, you name it.

Did they buy more home than they could afford? Yes. were they financially irresponsible? Yes. are they hoping they can save their homes long enough to sell them? Yes. Will it help? Every home not foreclosed on helps. The banks need to do their part and renegotiate the loans to a lower rate, though. This is part of what the bailout they recieved was to do. Not all of them are doing it. Penny wise, pound foolish. Better to renegotiate the interest rate to something the owner can manage and keep the houses OUT of their inventory until they can be sold. Inventory is moving, slowly, but sales are not totally flat in Florida and many of the homes sold are ones sitting in foreclosure inventory.

I can understand people being cynical, but unless the banks, people and government work together, it's going to be a disaster..not just a recession.

poenkitten





Crush -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 2:44:16 PM)

*perk*

Did someone say Vegas?       Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing!






pahunkboy -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 4:52:30 PM)

Thankfully I am not on that list.




pahunkboy -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 5:18:41 PM)

hey uncle one hand.   not to worry.   squaters now moving in.   problem solved.

http://collectionsrecon.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1406&Itemid=1




Real_Trouble -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 5:35:04 PM)

The 90 day moratorium is total grandstanding, and won't work.

That's just burying your head in the sand and hoping the problem will go away; banks, on average, don't like to foreclose on people if they think they will be able to pay back the loan, even in an impaired form.  There are countless examples of people doing things like buying $500,000 homes with NINJA loans when they make $20,000 a year.  No moratorium shorter than 100 years is going to save that.

This number will rise until at least 2010.  The worst is yet to come, as the worst years for mortgages were '06 and '07, and we aren't seeing those reset yet (they usually reset between 2 to 5 years out).




Termyn8or -> RE: Mortgage delinquencies continue to rise (12/3/2008 5:35:09 PM)

Why would this surprise anyone ? The conditions that led to this problem have not been changed.

T




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